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  • #29,361
  • Dec 29, 2011 4:29am Dec 29, 2011 4:29am
Hi alrightfrank,

Excuse my ignorance, I've only just discovered the SonicR system recently. I don't understand how a long was triggered at 1.2919. This price was never above the dragon. Or are you just referring to the pinbar? Also at 1.2919 I don't see any correlation with any L-H-HL.

Like I said I've only begun studying this system so apologies if I've missed something obvious. I'm still reading through the thread and it's taking some time but I have at least a fundamental understanding of the system and have read through the manual and installed all the indicators and begun backtesting.

Quoting alrightfrank
eu long entry triggered at 1.2919,well see what the market gives...
  • #29,362
  • Dec 29, 2011 4:43am Dec 29, 2011 4:43am
Somewhat confused....
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  • #29,363
  • Dec 29, 2011 6:23am Dec 29, 2011 6:23am
probably , i was late
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  • #29,364
  • Dec 29, 2011 6:37am Dec 29, 2011 6:37am
Quoting alrightfrank
master tah, i have eu, au, gu, and my cinderella usdchf. for now this two gives their prince a charm, well see how they behave...
Hello ARF

A quick question......I don't see the dragon on your charts.
Do you not use it to determine the choices you make?

Just curious.....thanks!
  • #29,365
  • Dec 29, 2011 6:38am Dec 29, 2011 6:38am
Quoting birons
Somewhat confused....
That also puzzled me. Is there something we are missing?
  • #29,366
  • Edited 7:34am Dec 29, 2011 7:23am | Edited 7:34am
welcome to the thread my friends, pls dont be confused on my style using sonicr i still base my entries on its basic principles (PA on S/R, LO/US sessions). ive just adapted my personality on this method. if you look at my chart the price bounced at base c of FE tool which was contributed by hans one of the seniors here, i just prefer to enter 1point above or below the reversal candle or you may call it aggressive entry.

id rather forward test the method rather than backtest my friend, imho

if you're new in using sonics method i stongly suggest to stick to the rule first, learn it, use it live to be comfortable with it before tweaking it to your own flavor.

if the trade doesnt work as it sometimes will, dont blame the system. we are the commander of our troops and its part of our duty to minimize the casualties.

the dragon doesnt match my personality it always bites my butt so i have to put him on leash.

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  • #29,367
  • Dec 29, 2011 7:59am Dec 29, 2011 7:59am
Quoting ArtfulDodger
I believe they mean:

FO = Frankfurt Open
LO = London Open
BB = Big Boys

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong
Thank you , i already two times . Now i have been answers
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  • #29,368
  • Dec 29, 2011 8:04am Dec 29, 2011 8:04am
Quoting alrightfrank
welcome to the thread my friends, pls dont be confused on my style using sonicr i still base my entries on its basic principles (PA on S/R, LO/US sessions). ive just adapted my personality on this method. if you look at my chart the price bounced at base c of FE tool which was contributed by hans one of the seniors here, i just prefer to enter 1point above or below the reversal candle or you may call it aggressive entry.

id rather forward test the method rather than backtest my friend, imho

if you're new in using sonics method i stongly...
Hi Frank

Here are my thoughts...

Regards,
H.
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  • #29,369
  • Dec 29, 2011 8:11am Dec 29, 2011 8:11am
Quoting hansma
Hi Frank

Here are my thoughts...

Regards,
H.
what is your name of this system ? Because i don't look dragon :-s
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  • #29,370
  • Dec 29, 2011 8:21am Dec 29, 2011 8:21am
Quoting maxryan9999
what is your name of this system ? Because i don't look dragon :-s
Nothing specific - just an observation of how price moves, and a pattern
that happens a lot of times.

Regards,
H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #29,371
  • Edited 8:45am Dec 29, 2011 8:35am | Edited 8:45am
Quoting hansma
Nothing specific - just an observation of how price moves, and a pattern
that happens a lot of times.

Regards,
H.
i already see in my picture . but TAH tell me should read begin .
SL should be near LH or HL . I think that it will than good
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  • #29,372
  • Dec 29, 2011 8:47am Dec 29, 2011 8:47am
Quoting maxryan9999
i already see in my picture . but TAH tell me should read begin .
SL should be near LH or HL . I think that it will than good
Of course you can put it there - the example of my posted chart with it at
the high gives you a stoploss of over 100 pips - not realistic.

Regards,
H.
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  • #29,373
  • Edited 10:01am Dec 29, 2011 9:32am | Edited 10:01am
Quoting hansma
Hi Frank

Here are my thoughts...

Regards,
H.
Sonikers, please do not confuse yourself over the way Hans depicts the PA waves. He is not deviating from the Sonic R. PA wave concept. Rather, he is further qualifying the PA wave as a better PA wave by requiring one more "down/up" (for longs) or one more "up/down" (for shorts),......one more "cycle", and looking to see if it "confirms" S&R at the end of the original PA wave leg #2. If there is confirmation, he shifts the FE study over one cycle, thus depicting the more recent waveform being traded.

Hans is demonstrating how to "better qualify" a PA wave for picking your Sonic R. setups. This short trade was reasonably safe, with the down trend, and good for about 40 pips with the Sonic R. entry.

Attached, I have added notations, including the Dragon which Hans omits.

Hans typically makes an "early" entry, which he feels more secure in doing now that there is that confirmation of S&R provided by that additional "cycle". An early entry such as that is not per Sonic R. In the attached I have shown both the Sonic R. entry, as well as the early entry Hans makes.
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  • #29,374
  • Dec 29, 2011 9:52am Dec 29, 2011 9:52am
Quoting traderathome
Sonikers, please do not confuse yourself over the way Hans depicts the PA waves. He is not deviating from the Sonic R. PA wave concept. Rather, he is further qualifying the PA wave as a better PA wave by requiring one more "down/up" (for longs) or one more "up/down" (for shorts),......one more "cycle", and looking to see if it "confirms" S&R at the end of the original PA wave leg #2. If there is confirmation, he shifts the FE study over one cycle, thus depicting the more recent waveform being traded.

Hans is demonstrating how to "better...

Thank you Tah - you are so much better with words

Regards,
H.
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #29,375
  • Dec 29, 2011 10:27am Dec 29, 2011 10:27am
GU:

Here is an interesting situation.

With all the BS about the bad ole euro problems causing the price swings, it looks like the BBs are more focused on GU! And these drives have probably nothing to do with anything but that the BBs are hard at work fixing the prices now to load up! (Speculation)

Anyway, here is another example of a PA wave followed by a pullback cycle, which currently has the look of confirming S&R at the end of Leg2 of the original PA wave.

This is not a recommendation to jump in long, just an illustration of what Hans looks for. In this case, the Dragon is still angled down, and a long trade would definately be CT and therefore more risky even with any confirmation of S&R. But, we might be looking at a bottom being made. If so, there surely will be more waves and a good SonicR long setup later,.....tomorrow?

Hansma, please add comments/corrections to this.
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  • #29,376
  • Dec 29, 2011 10:29am Dec 29, 2011 10:29am
Quoting hansma
Hi Frank

Here are my thoughts...

Regards,
H.
copy noted sir
  • #29,377
  • Edited 10:57am Dec 29, 2011 10:38am | Edited 10:57am
EU:

Now a Sonic R. long setup at whole number support area.
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  • #29,378
  • Dec 29, 2011 11:03am Dec 29, 2011 11:03am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Now a Sonic R. long setup at whole number support area.
I am following (not trading) this as well and the euro just made a nice pop! Nice setup.

still reading through this entire thread
  • #29,379
  • Edited 11:43am Dec 29, 2011 11:08am | Edited 11:43am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Now a Sonic R. long setup at whole number support area.
Thank , i don't think that one leg of candle probable is one top or bottom . ( This is question before i want ask ? )
Amazing ^^!. i place buy at 1.2920 and trailing stop 20p . Hope this night is nice

Update +18p
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  • #29,380
  • Edited 11:23am Dec 29, 2011 11:11am | Edited 11:23am
EU Market Comment:

Speculative.....

My guess is the BBs just "locked out" the shorts! All those that fell for the "poor bad ole euro problems" bullshit this week, and went short, are going to lose their money. With this last sudden move up, I bet the BBs have loaded the cheque with buy orders in the area, to keep the price from going much lower now. Tomorrow is Friday, and maybe nothing much will happen (maybe the BBs can "catch" a few more shorting fish in their trap). Then comes the New Year, and this goes higher again.

WARNING: Extremely speculative!
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