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  • #29,121
  • Dec 20, 2011 2:52am Dec 20, 2011 2:52am
Quoting sorsurus
TAH,

i dont really understand when you mention "SOnic R is not about individual candle". care to explain? coz i dont see myself using a single candle to open a trade and i did draw a wave on my chart. a wave that i think is correct and it really is.

anyway, change my SL to BE+1. no worry.
Sorsurus, you are ok. I was just meaning to say that although it is not a part of Sonic R. to analyze individual candles on M15, I (I, not you) noticed the proliferation of longer lower wick candles which could have a bullish significance (and it did, as it turned out!).

I was not criticizing you for anything, You were fine. I was just pointing out something about individual candles, something we do not pay attention to as a part of Sonic R. But it was something that was pretty obvious, and seemed worthy of mentioning since you (like me) were bullish on EU.
  • #29,122
  • Dec 20, 2011 2:57am Dec 20, 2011 2:57am
lol. thanx for the clarification TAH. thought, you were commenting on my cart earlier.

what most important here is everyone gets their pip. thanx for the system, sonic. thanx for the template, TAH.
  • #29,123
  • Dec 20, 2011 4:00am Dec 20, 2011 4:00am


both TPs are hit. 9/10 of lot remains for Christmas surprises..
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Patience is the key.
  • #29,124
  • Dec 20, 2011 4:16am Dec 20, 2011 4:16am
Quoting odges


both TPs are hit. 9/10 of lot remains for Christmas surprises..
Well done - congrats
"The future is already written in the past"
  • #29,125
  • Dec 20, 2011 6:10am Dec 20, 2011 6:10am
Quoting odges


both TPs are hit. 9/10 of lot remains for Christmas surprises..
Woah, nice trade!
cut losses short, let profits run.
  • #29,126
  • Edited 11:51am Dec 20, 2011 7:58am | Edited 11:51am
Today , i read secret of Sonic R(SR) .
i learned Sonic R use Hammer and Bulish Engufling in D1 or H4 and find entry in M15 . D1 = 96 bar M15 .
http://i.investopedia.com/inv/dictio...rms/hammer.gif or http://i.investopedia.com/inv/dictio...engulfingp.gif

i will try read continuation


Update 12:34 AM GMT +7

@tradeathome :
After you tell me read from begin .I really grateful to you
i have two question , help to mild ^^!

My chart


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  • #29,127
  • Dec 20, 2011 12:27pm Dec 20, 2011 12:27pm
Quoting traderathome
1. The Dragon and Trend Line M15 values can be displayed on M30 and H1 charts. You are displaying M30 TF calculations of the Dragon and Trend on the M30 chart. I am displaying the M15 configurations of the Dragon and Trend on the M30 chart.
Ah ok! makes sense! I see I was using a template with just moving averages from the sonic template folder instead of your folder when you have in there settings to do this.

Quoting traderathome
2. What more can I say. For days now PA has waffled about and I saw bullish signs. Maybe my mind was closed to seeing bearish signs. So, when PA revisited the EP area of the PA wave that took PA up from the very lows, I entered long. Yeah, US BBs pulled the rug late afternoon, with nobody around to make it difficult for them to do that, and I had to endure that having already gone long. But, now price is rising.
np...just making sure I wasn't missing something! I'm analyzing your messages to make sure we are in sync

Quoting traderathome
3. Have been creating and testing templates. Not sure what I will put into the next release. But you can check out my previously released indys and templates on 12-01-2010 and 05-15-2011.
got it. Thanks!

Quoting traderathome
1. At least several pips beyond the end of the first candle protruding out of the Dragon in PA wave leg 3 (1.5520).
Yes, that is what I see in sonic's instructions too, but I have seen sometimes you guys enter in earlier or get better prices....when are those times good, or is it right to say that if you are not waiting that long every time then that's just being impatient and in the long run will hurt you more than aid you? I'm inquiring if this entry should be (considering a perfect entry) should always follow this rule...candle closes above dragon then few pips over then entry, or are there exceptions? So when you are looking at this and it's happening...what makes your brain say "now I am getting in"

Quoting traderathome
You did not fully read page 1. Also, I am experimenting with stuff for new release.
Your new release should be "simple is better" hehe Your chart is so simple yet so effective! But I see you have charts with no dragon sometimes...I have no idea why you use those though.

Just wanted to say thanks for being so helpful tah! You da man!

very nice trades today guys!!! congratulations. Tah, you will always be rewarded because you are a contributor to us all.
  • #29,128
  • Edited 6:18pm Dec 20, 2011 5:41pm | Edited 6:18pm
Quoting maxryan9999
Today , i read secret of Sonic R(SR) .
i learned Sonic R use Hammer and Bulish Engufling in D1 or H4 and find entry in M15 . D1 = 96 bar M15 .

@tradeathome :
After you tell me read from begin .I really grateful to you
i have two question , help to mild...
Hi maxryan,

You are going about this the right way, getting answers to what you don't understand. Let me make a suggestion. Write your questions down on paper. Continue reading of the thread: the first 50 posts of Sonicdeejay and the last three months of all thread posts. During this time you will likely find the answer to all your questions, all on your own thru this study process.

As for your current questions, historic S&R is where you see it, sometimes on the same chart, and sometimes you have to use a larger TF chart. In this case the same chart reveals it. BTW, S&R is always an area, and hardly ever a line (though it might look that way sometimes). Legs 1,2 and 3 refer to the three moves in a proper PA wave movement.

See the attached pic. for an illustration of the classic Sonic R. setup (London session entry), with all the components shown and labeled with comments.

Regards,
-tah
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  • #29,129
  • Dec 20, 2011 6:14pm Dec 20, 2011 6:14pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

I have an open trade on this.

I have entered trade #2 long (EP=0.9926).

The last drive down today presents an attractive opportunity to enter a second long trade for several reasons. Price is now at the original EP area of the PA wave off of the lows last week. Also, the lows attained by this last drive down are higher than the lows in the asian session earlier. Furthermore, the PA bounce in the asian session was up off of a whole number. Finally, a second bounce up here could put PA on track to construct a new bullish wave. Oh, and...
AU:

Trade closed with 162 pips gain, EP to TP. Decided to take profit and look for a pullback. Still have first AU trade running.
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  • #29,130
  • Dec 20, 2011 6:15pm Dec 20, 2011 6:15pm
Quoting traderathome
Hi maxryan,

You are going about this the right way, getting answers to what you don't understand. Let me make a suggestion. Write your questions down on paper. Continue reading of the thread: the first 50 posts of Sonicdeejay and the last three months of all thread posts. During this time you will likely find the answer to all your questions, all on your own thru this study process.

As for your current questions, historic S&R is where you see it, sometimes on the same chart, and sometimes you have to use a larger TF chart. In this case...
That is a good explanation.
  • #29,131
  • Dec 20, 2011 6:35pm Dec 20, 2011 6:35pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Entered trade2 SonicR long (EP= 1.3020).

Edit: Updated trade chart to show most recent FE study/target.
Manually closed this trade #2 for 95 pips gain, EP to close. Trade #1 is still running.
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  • #29,132
  • Dec 20, 2011 6:43pm Dec 20, 2011 6:43pm
Quoting traderathome
Sorsurus, Sonic R. is not about individual candles on M15 (H4, yes. M15, no.), however, I do see a lot of longer lower wicks which may be indicative of BBs repeatedly running the price down, running stops and triggering wrong side orders into the market. If so, this is a bullish sign.
EU:

This is testamony to the value of using the MT4 FE tool to help select targets that coincide with historic PA S&R, or to help select targets when you cannot find recent historic S&R to confirm.
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  • #29,133
  • Dec 20, 2011 7:06pm Dec 20, 2011 7:06pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Entered SonicR long (EP= 1.0143) for maybe a short run to the green area.
AU:

Manually closed trade #1 for 26 pips loss, EP to close. Price "hit" FE 338% level (closed at 1.0117), which might be a stretch for this asian session. Maybe it goes higher, but maybe it now retraces. Did well on trade #2 (163 pips), so this averages out ok.
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  • #29,134
  • Dec 20, 2011 7:57pm Dec 20, 2011 7:57pm
Quoting traderathome
Hi maxryan,

You are going about this the right way, getting answers to what you don't understand. Let me make a suggestion. Write your questions down on paper. Continue reading of the thread: the first 50 posts of Sonicdeejay and the last three months of all thread posts. During this time you will likely find the answer to all your questions, all on your own thru this study process.

As for your current questions, historic S&R is where you see it, sometimes on the same chart, and sometimes you have to use a larger TF chart. In this case...
Best example of a picture is worth a thousand words! Beautiful explanation.
  • #29,135
  • Dec 20, 2011 8:01pm Dec 20, 2011 8:01pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Manually closed trade #1 for 26 pips loss, EP to close. Price "hit" FE 338% level (closed at 1.0117), which might be a stretch for this asian session. Maybe it goes higher, but maybe it now retraces. Did well on trade #2 (163 pips), so this averages out ok.
If you went long on this one...why did you exit at stop loss around 1.0000...seems like you went way way way past suggested stop loss, or am I missing something?
  • #29,136
  • Dec 20, 2011 8:20pm Dec 20, 2011 8:20pm
GU:

After the wild up day in the market yesterday, what will be for today? Up? Down? Up, but with a pullback first? I have no idea.

I am looking for a CT short trade on this pair.
1. M5 PA tops starting to trend down.
2. High trading at PA highs.
3. After yesterday, a retrace is not unreasonable, even healthy.
4. Might happen in asian session,.....not healthy!

Any retrace might not be really huge, but maybe down to the central pivot is reasonable? About 40 pips, or so? That is an "ok" trade size. The attached pic. shows a preliminary setup based on the current PA situation. Now, to wait and see what happens....
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  • #29,137
  • Dec 20, 2011 8:41pm Dec 20, 2011 8:41pm
Quoting jdtrader
If you went long on this one...why did you exit at stop loss around 1.0000...seems like you went way way way past suggested stop loss, or am I missing something?
Had no hard SL (trade 1).
Walked away from computer and price dropped.
Figured drop to be setting up for run back up and higher.
Price dropped more.
Looked for basing, but missed entry on first setup at attained lows.
Several days later, PA dropped to EP area of first setup (trade 2).
Nice run up off of double bottom, so closed both trades.

Lesson: Should have set a reasonable hard SL.
  • #29,138
  • Dec 20, 2011 9:30pm Dec 20, 2011 9:30pm
Quoting traderathome
Had no hard SL (trade 1).
Walked away from computer and price dropped.
Figured drop to be setting up for run back up and higher.
Price dropped more.
Looked for basing, but missed entry on first setup at attained lows.
Several days later, PA dropped to EP area of first setup (trade 2).
Nice run up off of double bottom, so closed both trades.

Lesson: Should have set a reasonable hard SL.
gotcha...makes sense...I probably would have done the same then. You can see why I asked though! I gotta say you ended up pretty lucky at the end!
  • #29,139
  • Edited 10:33pm Dec 20, 2011 10:18pm | Edited 10:33pm
Quoting traderathome
GU:

After the wild up day in the market yesterday, what will be for today? Up? Down? Up, but with a pullback first? I have no idea.

I am looking for a CT short trade on this pair.
1. M5 PA tops starting to trend down.
2. High trading at PA highs.
3. After yesterday, a retrace is not unreasonable, even healthy.
4. Might happen in asian session,.....not healthy!

Any retrace might not be really huge, but maybe down to the central pivot is reasonable? About 40 pips, or so? That is an "ok" trade size. The attached pic. shows a preliminary setup...
GU:

CT short setup updated. Selected new PA wave because it is the one where Leg1 crosses the Dragon. There is a new spike up/volume up. May be getting close to a breakout down?

Remembering......
1. Dragon very flat
2. Asian session entry?,....very risky.
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  • #29,140
  • Dec 20, 2011 10:43pm Dec 20, 2011 10:43pm
Quoting traderathome
GU:

CT short setup updated. Selected new PA wave because it is the one where Leg1 crosses the Dragon. There is a new spike up/volume up. May be getting close to a breakout down?

Remembering......
1. Dragon very flat
2. Asian session entry?,....very risky.
GU:

CT M5 asian session SonicR short trade is triggered. ("CT", "M5", "asian session",.......geez! I ought to have my head examined!)
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