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  • #3,321
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:02am Dec 1, 2011 6:02am
Quoting timf1979
Good morning fellow traders,
Real Jumper i know what you mean, i dont need much more than i had right now! ust keep my life simple like it always been.

Real Jumper i read about some posts before about a scalping template that you're using... I mean do you use the regular template as post 1 or did you trick somehow... i tried to scalp with the regular one but doens worked very well.....

BTW congrats on that asian session!!!

Thanks......I'm basically a lazy person, so if I can keep what I have and have more free time, I'll be happy. Time is valuable

Check out the M1 stuff here
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,322
  • Edited 6:19am Dec 1, 2011 6:03am | Edited 6:19am
@RJ, Jack... oh gawd pls don't remind me of last years december.. sick market, no trends, impulsive buying - candles appearing out of nowhere. it was my premiere on a real account, EU M1 only, 8 months demo >10hrs a day before it (yep i had a very brief encounter with fx earlier in 2008 but didn't take it seriously). i really couldn't choose a better date to start off. one stopout after another, everything was way different, psychology trapped.. of course the reason was simple: i didn't know how to trade. i started with a $4K account.. lost nearly 30% within a month and a half, risking only 1% per trade! then i went back to demo and then to pennies, the normal (now around $3K) acc is dormant, if everything proceeds like last 2-3 months i see a chance to revive the bigger acc soon (not now).

this system is giving me confidence, confirmation and pretty solid guidance even though i'm not a strict follower, one more big thank you Eval

eu+au long again (m1). edit: closed both 11+24
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  • #3,323
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:04am Dec 1, 2011 6:04am
Quoting Evaluator
(This is a constantly updated document that will contain additions and modifications to strategy)

Hello,

I have been testing many indicators and programs to determine which combinations will work the best and most importantly which combinations are the most reliable especially in a whipsaw market like we are having today.

From all my studies and research I would like to put forth the following program for your evaluation and feedback. I call this program the

Symphonie Trader System

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Hello Evaluator

please put the last indicator and template to download and set up it

thanks
  • #3,324
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:04am Dec 1, 2011 6:04am
Quoting Jack Herer
a ducati...now I'm jealous, lol! They are sooo expensive here.

for me, money is a mean to an end, not the end itself...the real "end" for me is freedom.
Yeah....same here!! I bought the Ducati 20 years ago......it cost $11k even then, but now it's worth much more.....but it's not for sale. Still does 260km/h and 1/4 mile in 11.9 seconds.......love my Duke!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,325
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:06am Dec 1, 2011 6:06am
Indeed RJ! Time is precious, dont waste it! Oh and thanks for the link i wil read it right know :-)
Quoting realjumper
Thanks......I'm basically a lazy person, so if I can keep what I have and have more free time, I'll be happy. Time is valuable

Check out the M1 stuff here
  • #3,326
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:08am Dec 1, 2011 6:08am
Quoting MaryJane
@RJ, Jack... oh gawd pls don't remind me of last years december.. sick market, no trends, impulsive buying - candles appearing out of nowhere. it was my premiere on a real account, EU M1 only, 8 months demo >10hrs a day before it (yep i had a very brief encounter with fx earlier in 2008 but didn't take it seriously). i really couldn't choose a better date to start off. one stopout after another, everything was way different, psychology trapped.. of course the reason was simple: i didn't know how to trade. i started with a $4K account.. lost...
Yeah......last December was rubbish.......I stopped trading at about the 15th and didn't start again until Jan 12th (I think). I'll probably do the same this year because it's summer here....starting today in fact......so it's time to relax......mind you.....I'm more relaxed no that I was last year!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,327
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:11am Dec 1, 2011 6:11am
Sleep time for me.....it's been a good day and a good week. The NFP circus is upon us again shortly, but there might be some more trades before then.

Trade well.....

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,328
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:38am Dec 1, 2011 6:38am
Quoting mohammad123
Hello Evaluator

please put the last indicator and template to download and set up it

thanks
Hi and welcome to the Factory , there are no 'last' indicators or templates - the last version is in post #1 and has everything needed for trading the strategy successfully. It has not changed at all since the beginning - it's a sign of very thorough research and testing done by Eval, before he even decided to publish it. There is a lot of another indicators and templates posted in the thread but all these are either experimental or some people use them individually, but obviously they are not a significant enhancement of the system.

You have quoted:
Quote
(This is a constantly updated document that will contain additions and modifications to strategy)
and i'm pretty sure Evaluator will update it if he finds some addition or modification worth the change.
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  • #3,329
  • Dec 1, 2011 6:44am Dec 1, 2011 6:44am
Isn't this funny how PA keeps kissing the H4down channel (blue line)? any thoughts on this one?
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  • #3,330
  • Dec 1, 2011 7:10am Dec 1, 2011 7:10am
Quoting timf1979
Isn't this funny how PA keeps kissing the H4down channel (blue line)? any thoughts on this one?
if i see a sell signal on M5 i will probably take it, M15 i would hesitate - not enough room maybe,

seems the price is compressing and could fall down to the bottom of the flag ~3400-3440. i don't think much lower (if at all). the market wants to go up, 3500 is a biggy of course, there might be some option games around 10est. ADP in 30 mins, ISM 2.5hrs later, NFP tomorrow => anything can happen. in case of a solid breakout, i see 3660 as next target. time will tell. i don't know anything. nobody does.
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  • #3,331
  • Edited 8:08am Dec 1, 2011 7:27am | Edited 8:08am
Quoting MaryJane
Hi and welcome to the Factory , there are no 'last' indicators or templates - the last version is in post #1 and has everything needed for trading the strategy successfully. It has not changed at all since the beginning - it's a sign of very thorough research and testing done by Eval, before he even decided to publish it. There is a lot of another indicators and templates posted in the thread but all these are either experimental or some people use them individually, but obviously they are not a significant enhancement of the system.

You...
thank you
are you trade only EURUSD or any pair
  • #3,332
  • Dec 1, 2011 8:32am Dec 1, 2011 8:32am
Mohammad,
Please read the thread. The whole thread, although long, will give you what you seek. Write down any questions that come up. Apply what is discussed here. Then trade. And as you do this, write down any other questions. Then please ask them here. We will be glad and answer them at that point.
Blessings, Monk E.
  • #3,333
  • Dec 1, 2011 10:45am Dec 1, 2011 10:45am
Quoting jurn_e
Hi Eval, MJ, RJ,

Have been trading SEFC for nearly a month. Profitable so far.

Just a noob question,

If i am trading, lets say yesterday as an example.
There is Extreme Spike Bottom in m5 and m15,
of course i would be looking for Buy signals.
However market does not go up, instead it went down.

I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.

I am thinking, should i put a sell stop at the extreme spike bottom?

Opinions and advise much appreciated. Thanks
You made the right choice not to go in. The problem with going in there is that you open yourself up to areas with no volatility. If you look at 16:45 on the 29th as an example, if you'd have gone short at that time on the basis of your theory, and you would have likely hit a SL before a TP despite the big drop later on.

Remember that the theory isn't just about making profit, it's also about removing any exposure you might have to loss. It's annoying when the indicators don't all match up and you miss out, but you generally miss out due to a bigger picture that if you applied to your entire method would cause you losses.

Think of it like a game of boxing. Would you rather wait for the perfect moments to hit a haymaker, or would you prefer to get more hits but as a result drop your guard more often? This method sets you up for big haymakers with only 20% ish exposure to loss, that's pretty good going.
  • #3,334
  • Dec 1, 2011 11:04am Dec 1, 2011 11:04am
Quoting sawell
Remember that the theory isn't just about making profit, it's also about removing any exposure you might have to loss.
One step further, and that is proper MM will have you in the game for the long haul. Eval's MM using the ARS is very conservative, and look at the results he's posting as a result of it.

Quoting sawell
Think of it like a game of boxing. Would you rather wait for the perfect moments to hit a haymaker, or would you prefer to get more hits but as a result drop your guard more often? This method sets you up for big haymakers with only 20% ish exposure to loss, that's pretty good going.
I'm with you...looking out for the haymakers, as you call them
Blessings, Monk E.
  • #3,335
  • Edited 2:48pm Dec 1, 2011 2:11pm | Edited 2:48pm
[quote=Eval's MM using the ARS is very conservative, and look at the results he's posting as a result of it.[/QUOTE]

For the record, Evals mm is not that conservative but still it's livable. Everywhere I have ever read says to never expose yourself to more than 2% risk . I know forex traders risking 20% per trade but that's not proper mm. Eval's mm is essentially risking 5% per trade. 0.1 lot per 1000 with a 50 pip stop loss. 0.1 lots is $1 a pip * 50 for stop loss = $50 exposure. $50 / $1000 = 5%. I am not saying don't do it but for sure don't call it conservative. 2% is standard so anything less is conservative.
  • #3,336
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:00pm Dec 1, 2011 5:00pm
Quoting CasinoEdge
Could you post a summary of your re-entry rules for higher TFs?
Thanks in advance.

My trading is a work in progress, as with most traders. Yet the Symphonie sys is as close to a Holy "anything" as I have ever found.

Most traders like to trade like being in a car on a street in a city. They can only see maybe 1 city block ahead of themselves. I like to trade like I'm riding in a airplane, so I can see every street, building, city, vista, and beyond.
I trade from the 1 and 5 min charts for entries, then move to the 1 hr to manage the...
CasinoEdge,

Thank you for your comments. Nice write up. As I have said many times....you have to trade the way you feel most comfortable and I set my rules up to help people have some structure to their trading strategy and many it seem adapt to suit their needs. But it please me very that people are having success.

Keep it up....

Eval.
  • #3,337
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:01pm Dec 1, 2011 5:01pm
Quoting ceechange
Thank you for your explicit outline of your successful trading process.

Its no doubt that what Eval unleashed here has been an eye opener for many and has drawn support from many wise people. All I've got to do is to trust in simplicity, be disciplined and follow through with courage. Its that simple

ceechange,

Actually that is the hardest thing to do.

Eval.
  • #3,338
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:03pm Dec 1, 2011 5:03pm
Quoting jurn_e
Hi Eval, MJ, RJ,

Have been trading SEFC for nearly a month. Profitable so far.

Just a noob question,

If i am trading, lets say yesterday as an example.
There is Extreme Spike Bottom in m5 and m15,
of course i would be looking for Buy signals.
However market does not go up, instead it went down.

I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.

I am thinking, should i put a sell stop at the extreme spike bottom?

Opinions and advise much appreciated. Thanks
jurn_e,

Congratulations!!! Three Thumbs up!

Eval.
  • #3,339
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:07pm Dec 1, 2011 5:07pm
Quoting MaryJane
@RJ, Jack... oh gawd pls don't remind me of last years december.. sick market, no trends, impulsive buying - candles appearing out of nowhere. it was my premiere on a real account, EU M1 only, 8 months demo >10hrs a day before it (yep i had a very brief encounter with fx earlier in 2008 but didn't take it seriously). i really couldn't choose a better date to start off. one stopout after another, everything was way different, psychology trapped.. of course the reason was simple: i didn't know how to trade. i started with a $4K account.. lost...
MaryJane,

Maybe one day I will beable to convert you to a Symphonie System robot follower.

Eval.
  • #3,340
  • Dec 1, 2011 5:07pm Dec 1, 2011 5:07pm
Can someone please help ? This is what my Heiken Ashi Indicator looks like on my chart. Its very laggy and all that shows is red.
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