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  • #3,301
  • Nov 30, 2011 6:23pm Nov 30, 2011 6:23pm
Quoting keeper81
I noticed that through the thread in indicators have had some modification. I was woundering if the indicators on the first page are the most up to date.

Thanks for your help.
The first line, of the first page says: (This is a constantly updated document that will contain additions and modifications to strategy)
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  • #3,302
  • Nov 30, 2011 8:24pm Nov 30, 2011 8:24pm
Hi Eval, MJ, RJ,

Have been trading SEFC for nearly a month. Profitable so far.

Just a noob question,

If i am trading, lets say yesterday as an example.
There is Extreme Spike Bottom in m5 and m15,
of course i would be looking for Buy signals.
However market does not go up, instead it went down.

I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.

I am thinking, should i put a sell stop at the extreme spike bottom?

Opinions and advise much appreciated. Thanks
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  • #3,303
  • Nov 30, 2011 8:35pm Nov 30, 2011 8:35pm
Quoting MaryJane
cheers putting this on the stack (trying to apply strict FIFO)
= i'll look into that later.
i remember the indi.. i think it was in Lou G's original ALF thread
Yes it was on that thread and I have used it ever since. I think it's perfect as an extra item for those who want to get in an existing trend or re-enter. It's very fast in recognizing new swings in a larger trend, I just don't know why the original tvi doesn't repaint and it's histogram variation does. Lou G did a great job in that thread. There are only a few threads on FF that I followed from start to the obvious end. This one and lou g's thread are on that list. Maybe my input is poor, I only share when I think it add's something to the system or the discussion.

Thanks pbb
  • #3,304
  • Nov 30, 2011 9:19pm Nov 30, 2011 9:19pm
Quoting jurn_e
Hi Eval, MJ, RJ,

Have been trading SEFC for nearly a month. Profitable so far.

Just a noob question,

If i am trading, lets say yesterday as an example.
There is Extreme Spike Bottom in m5 and m15,
of course i would be looking for Buy signals.
However market does not go up, instead it went down.

I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.

I am thinking, should i put a sell stop at the extreme spike bottom?

Opinions and advise much appreciated. Thanks
The way i see it, if the extreme spike has repainted, i see it as invalid spike. I refer to previous spike that has not be repainted and take note of the possible set up.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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  • #3,305
  • Nov 30, 2011 9:59pm Nov 30, 2011 9:59pm
Quoting camvcvoo
The way i see it, if the extreme spike has repainted, i see it as invalid spike. I refer to previous spike that has not be repainted and take note of the possible set up.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.
The downmove happen before the repaint of the extreme spike bottom.
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  • #3,306
  • Nov 30, 2011 10:22pm Nov 30, 2011 10:22pm
Quoting jurn_e
I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.
hi, i think i dealt with the same issue here, look at the chart in the post, extreme top was way to the left (too many hours before to fit on that chart), extreme bottom was in charge (you can see it repainted several times) as the trendsetter so no shorts. i have observed this happens with steady moves and don't know of any 100% rule-conform way of reentering except of placing the sellstop (as suggested by Eval in one of his extra tips) but as i mentioned - price advances in repaints are too shallow when the move is slow to make it a general rule, i think there will be a lot of losses if the market is not volatile enough as you can observe a lot of repaints when the market is topping/bottoming. i'm not trading it mechanically so if i see a trend or downdrift that would fit into a narrow channel without noticeable pullbacks, i take a non-extreme spike as valid to enter in the direction of the obvious trend.
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  • #3,307
  • Dec 1, 2011 12:07am Dec 1, 2011 12:07am
Quoting jurn_e
Hi Eval, MJ, RJ,

Have been trading SEFC for nearly a month. Profitable so far.

Just a noob question,

If i am trading, lets say yesterday as an example.
There is Extreme Spike Bottom in m5 and m15,
of course i would be looking for Buy signals.
However market does not go up, instead it went down.

I totally missed the downmove because extreme spike bottom is preventing me to go short.

I am thinking, should i put a sell stop at the extreme spike bottom?

Opinions and advise much appreciated. Thanks
That's a difficult one Keke......for me, I drop down to the M1 chart and trade that instead, and I don't return to the M5 until the charts have settled down again.
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  • #3,308
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:11am Dec 1, 2011 2:11am
Just wondering did anyone else get a false short signal on the EUR/USD at 0800 GMT? All four indicators looked good - and even the Heikin Aishi is red - but EUR/USD is doing a climb. I know I should post a screen shot but I have to run for a meeting and the computer is just not doing me favours today.

Edit - Just to add that I am looking at the 15 min chart.
  • #3,309
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:19am Dec 1, 2011 2:19am
watched this broadening, i call it the Taz pattern because it reminds me of the Taz devil just released from a cage. I have seen it many times following a big upmove. It may lure you into a sell (that's the purpose) but it usually resolves just like it did today. It was possible to take the trade earlier in M1 but i decided to wait - even Taz fails sometimes and this was a 100% valid M5 Symphonie entry - last valid extreme was the bottom. Took 40 pips from this one at 1.35 round number, seems there are some sellers there.
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  • #3,310
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:21am Dec 1, 2011 2:21am
Quoting Amanda2
Just wondering did anyone else get a false short signal on the EUR/USD at 0800 GMT? All four indicators looked good - and even the Heikin Aishi is red - but EUR/USD is doing a climb. I know I should post a screen shot but I have to run for a meeting and the computer is just not doing me favours today.

Edit - Just to add that I am looking at the 15 min chart.
Be much easier of you could post your chart please? We are all in different time zones so it would be much easier if we can see you chart to compare. Thanks.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,311
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:22am Dec 1, 2011 2:22am
Quoting Amanda2
Just wondering did anyone else get a false short signal on the EUR/USD at 0800 GMT? All four indicators looked good - and even the Heikin Aishi is red - but EUR/USD is doing a climb. I know I should post a screen shot but I have to run for a meeting and the computer is just not doing me favours today.

Edit - Just to add that I am looking at the 15 min chart.
As far as i can see it was no sell signal on the 15min chart at 0800. But it was a really nice buy signal at 0915 at 1,3472. I took it for a small profit upp to 1.3495
  • #3,312
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:26am Dec 1, 2011 2:26am
Quoting MaryJane
watched this broadening, i call it the Taz pattern because it reminds me of the Taz devil just released from a cage. I have seen it many times following a big upmove. It may lure you into a sell (that's the purpose) but it usually resolves just like it did today. It was possible to take the trade earlier in M1 but i decided to wait - even Taz fails sometimes and this was a 100% valid M5 Symphonie entry - last valid extreme was the bottom. Took 40 pips from this one at 1.35 round number, seems there are some sellers there.
You're right MJ.....you do see that pattern quite often. I didn't wait for it....I have spent the whole day on the M1 chart....well....since Asian open with a gap for lunch!

12 trades
11 wins
1 B/E

Biggest win +20
Smallest win +6
Total = 136

Early night coming!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,313
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:28am Dec 1, 2011 2:28am
Quoting realjumper
12 trades
11 wins
1 B/E

Biggest win +20
Smallest win +6
Total = 136
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  • #3,314
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:31am Dec 1, 2011 2:31am
Quoting MaryJane

Thank you! Two of the trades would have been better had I let then run a bit more, but it's quite good to just chip away at the little trades if you have the time to spend because they soon add up.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,315
  • Dec 1, 2011 2:55am Dec 1, 2011 2:55am
Quoting realjumper
You're right MJ.....you do see that pattern quite often. I didn't wait for it....I have spent the whole day on the M1 chart....well....since Asian open with a gap for lunch!

12 trades
11 wins
1 B/E

Biggest win +20
Smallest win +6
Total = 136

Early night coming!!
your scalping template did very well during asian session, that damn range was perfect for scalpers.

I guess we are gonna have to set up a meeting for SEFC traders in vegas sooner than I thought, lol.
  • #3,316
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:05am Dec 1, 2011 3:05am
Quoting Jack Herer
your scalping template did very well during asian session, that damn range was perfect for scalpers.

I guess we are gonna have to set up a meeting for SEFC traders in vegas sooner than I thought, lol.
You know it's a strange thing Jack......this time last year I was hating ranging/consolidating days because I didn't have a successful way to deal with them. They mostly cost me money when I tried. Now that I have got it all sorted out, I love such days and i wouldn't care if they continue!!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,317
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:25am Dec 1, 2011 3:25am
Quoting realjumper
You know it's a strange thing Jack......this time last year I was hating ranging/consolidating days because I didn't have a successful way to deal with them. They mostly cost me money when I tried. Now that I have got it all sorted out, I love such days and i wouldn't care if they continue!!!
I know exactly what you mean.

now we see opportunities in such days. That's the beauty of trading, it's a never ending journey of learning.

I wonder where we'll be in 1 year from now...

  • #3,318
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:35am Dec 1, 2011 3:35am
Quoting Jack Herer
your scalping template did very well during asian session, that damn range was perfect for scalpers.

I guess we are gonna have to set up a meeting for SEFC traders in vegas sooner than I thought, lol.
To be perfectly honest, if the best I can do a year from now is to maintain my modest lifestyle, I'll be happy......I have my house, car and Ducati, and I'm healthly.....don't need too much more!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #3,319
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:54am Dec 1, 2011 3:54am
Quoting realjumper
To be perfectly honest, if the best I can do a year from now is to maintain my modest lifestyle, I'll be happy......I have my house, car and Ducati, and I'm healthly.....don't need too much more!!
a ducati...now I'm jealous, lol! They are sooo expensive here.

for me, money is a mean to an end, not the end itself...the real "end" for me is freedom.
  • #3,320
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:54am Dec 1, 2011 3:54am
Good morning fellow traders,
Real Jumper i know what you mean, i dont need much more than i had right now! ust keep my life simple like it always been.

Real Jumper i read about some posts before about a scalping template that you're using... I mean do you use the regular template as post 1 or did you trick somehow... i tried to scalp with the regular one but doens worked very well.....

BTW congrats on that asian session!!!


Quoting realjumper
To be perfectly honest, if the best I can do a year from now is to maintain my modest lifestyle, I'll be happy......I have my house, car and Ducati, and I'm healthly.....don't need too much more!!
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