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  • #568,441
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:23am Dec 1, 2011 3:23am
Quoting forexings
ECB already committing bond intervention. Direct swap never expected from eurozone.
Not understand the bond thingings well but intervention may be any formate to me , verbal, politcal lies, getting help from others , bank injection , money printing & war games etc not know how many ways it be about but something doing well so far till great exhaustion either side , helpers for the intervetion or they themselves reach to a firing level /break elasticity level to stop & great consequences be back but that time also from some higher level of exchanges & again may limit than more falls before .getting more time to handle .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #568,442
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:23am Dec 1, 2011 3:23am
It's not, swiss can print "as much as necessary"-no limits, europe can't(yet)
  • #568,443
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:27am Dec 1, 2011 3:27am
Quoting Alexone
So the SNB alone has the power to move USDCHF wherever it wants but the SNB + her 4 equally muscular brothers cant move the EURUSD? On a basic, primitive thinking level this is ridiculous.
Swiss wanted to de value it's currency, so they used printing machine. , if German want to devalue it's currency. all they need is few words
Mohan
  • #568,444
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:27am Dec 1, 2011 3:27am
that's right, Draghi: get off the twitter & get on the bid
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  • #568,445
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:30am Dec 1, 2011 3:30am
Quoting tankokjian
hi may i know where can i get info on bond auctions and swap rates live ?
http://markets.ft.com/ft/markets/bonds.asp
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  • #568,446
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:31am Dec 1, 2011 3:31am
Draghi is finally done, normal service resumes. And with those last comments we now need the techs to line up to get us through the top here. A shame he stopped gabbing right at the top though, could have used him to line up some of the stragglers here. Now we need to pick up the last few ourselves.
  • #568,447
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:34am Dec 1, 2011 3:34am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
There is nothing like pure numbers in here. Only percentage chance to hit direction if you are educated enough. If you have propper MM and set RR properly, based on your knowledge of market movements, percentage works quite fine. You can never be sure of direction here.

T
I seen you haven't come across gatorinla's posts yet..
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  • #568,448
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:38am Dec 1, 2011 3:38am
I read a lot. There are very few tech traders I pay attention to. fontu is the first in the row, gator is the second one.

And I am pretty sure none of them will give you pure numbers, but percentage.

If you follow gator without understanding his system, which you are unable as this guy is insane braniac, you are going to burn for sure.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #568,449
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:40am Dec 1, 2011 3:40am
Anything on the bond auction yet?
  • #568,450
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:41am Dec 1, 2011 3:41am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
I read a lot. There are very few tech traders I pay attention to. fontu is the first in the row, gator is the second one.

And I am pretty sure none of them will give you pure numbers, but percentage.

If you follow gator without understanding his system, which you are unable as this guy is insane braniac, you are going to burn for sure.

T

Gator's entire strategy is based on if-then-if, he does nothing else, as should every trader here.
  • #568,451
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:41am Dec 1, 2011 3:41am
Quoting njfx
Anything on the bond auction yet?

Nah
  • #568,452
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:42am Dec 1, 2011 3:42am
Quoting Alexone
Im not a news freak but ill give my opinion here. Yesterday 5 central banks made a stand but today we should expect lower prices? Lol i dont think so...That would be ridiculous.
I think as well that we should go a bit higher. Nevertheless, money aint going to the market, so it is not actual boost. What we need is consumer spending and consumer confidence. But this just aint happening. It was the same with QE. Banks just suck in all the money not spending anything as they are all awaiting crash so they can buy cheap later. Untill this sovereign debt issue (and US debt and Japan debt btw) is solved, we are in the sell mode.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #568,453
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:43am Dec 1, 2011 3:43am
Quoting cloggie
Gator's entire strategy is based on if-then-if, he does nothing else, as should every trader here.
Yeah, like 15 risk for 50 profit.

I like his way but sometimes hard to follow
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  • #568,454
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:45am Dec 1, 2011 3:45am
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
I think as well that we should go a bit higher. Nevertheless, money aint going to the market, so it is not actual boost. What we need is consumer spending and consumer confidence. But this just aint happening. It was the same with QE. Banks just suck in all the money not spending anything as they are all awaiting crash so they can buy cheap later. Untill this sovereign debt issue (and US debt and Japan debt btw) is solved, we are in the sell mode.

T

Someone said that yesterday, not sure who....
  • #568,455
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:46am Dec 1, 2011 3:46am
Quoting cloggie
Someone said that yesterday, not sure who....
Ah, got it.

Quoting cloggie
You got it, this CB action will only help the banks, and that really is the responsibility of the CB's, the rest is up to the politicians but they see this again as trickle down economics. They need to get off their @Rse and start addressing the fundamental issues of what is wrong in the EU.

Adding liquidity is not going to create jobs or address the structural deficits that the periphery is facing, it is helping out the banks, but we are not going to see them investing in the ecnomy, all we will see them do on the back of this is add to...

  • #568,456
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:47am Dec 1, 2011 3:47am
Quoting njfx
Anything on the bond auction yet?
Quoting cloggie
Nah

Good cover ratio, top end of estimate. Finally a decent auction.

I'll let you know the yields as soon as I get them.
  • #568,457
  • Edited 4:05am Dec 1, 2011 3:49am | Edited 4:05am
Quoting Alexone
So the SNB alone has the power to move USDCHF wherever it wants but the SNB + her 4 equally muscular brothers cant move the EURUSD? On a basic, primitive thinking level this is ridiculous.
I have stated this several times and I am going to repeat myself. I think Fool, as well as some other members, is against me in this subject as he considers CBs all powerfull. They aint.

There is only one superpowerfull CB in the world and that is FED. And even FED leaders will have to face political consequences once lossess accumulate. And QE brings some heavy one lossess.

Market will bring SNB to their knees. They already have full balance sheet of JPY since mid 2010. They are intervening by buying currencies on the market and suffering huge losses. If it wasnt for united CBs coordination and FED printing press supporting all, market would already crush em. Now it just takes a little bit longer.

My point is, even united, they are getting weaker and weaker. Fed can fight for BOJ, ECB and SNB for long time, but one day, they will fall. And that day is near imo.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #568,458
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:49am Dec 1, 2011 3:49am
Quoting mohan76
Swiss wanted to de value it's currency, so they used printing machine. , if German want to devalue it's currency. all they need is few words
Dont forget that the SNB is not ABSOLUTELY independent. THE SNB is independent to accomplish its mission but it is the Swiss legislature that has refered the mission of price stability upon the SNB. This Euro bailout is jeopardizing Swiss price stability. In light of the Euro mess which CANNOT be resolved anymore the SNB can only go so far and further extensive intervention over the medium term is highly unlikely. So the SNB being able to print unlimited money is a myth.
  • #568,459
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:51am Dec 1, 2011 3:51am
I like gator's way also but scale into a level I like. I give a little more wiggle room since I'm not always accurate in entry.


Quoting KillerWhale
Yeah, like 15 risk for 50 profit.

I like his way but sometimes hard to follow
  • #568,460
  • Dec 1, 2011 3:51am Dec 1, 2011 3:51am
Quoting cloggie
I'll let you know the yields as soon as I get them.

All higher, 5%+
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