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  • #568,201
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:24pm Nov 30, 2011 1:24pm
Quoting cloggie

I just spend 2 minutes on Google and this williams muppet himself admits that there is no volume in fX and he uses a range based estimate, what a freakin joker. The guy should be taken out back and shot, not revered as a false "god"

Funny BUT blasphemy! Lol from what i remember he charged 5000$ for the 'broker program' he made himself so at least he was selling his crap for a high price!


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Do yourself a favour and get a copy of Marhedge or HFI and find the top 10 HF for this year and give them a call to offer them 99 bucks to buy their strategies, alternatively call all of them and tell that you are willing to invest a million bucks with them as long as they give you full disclosure on all their trading styles and minute detail of strategies to be used on your account, I will guarantee you now what the answer is going to be on both of those questions.
'Today is ur lucky day and u can have all our strategy for 66.66$ down from 99.99$'? I dont really care about their strategy as it is easier to move 10k than 300 million or w/e a fund has. Dont think their strategies are any use to me.
  • #568,202
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:24pm Nov 30, 2011 1:24pm
Quoting cloggie
They will tell you politely to F off.
  • #568,203
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:25pm Nov 30, 2011 1:25pm
Quoting fxjawn
so true...

ALL MENTORS SUCK IF THEY WERE ANY GOOD THEY WOULD BE DOING IT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT NEED YOUR MONEY...

YET PPL STILL BELIEVE THE SHIT THEY BLOW UP THEIR ASS AND CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM MONEY EVEN WITH ZERO PROFITS...

AMAZING

IT does piss me off royally how so many noobies get distracted by all the hype, marketing and sh!t out there, that is utterly worthless. All those noobies lose precious time chasing the nonexisting solutions instead of focusing on learning to trade.

Millions of dollars are wasted each and every year on total useless crap.

None of the strategies/systems/indies found here on FF are worth anything and it is a total waste of a noobies time to spend chasing the nonexistent solutions offered by them.

The real sad bit in all these threads here on FF is that none of them cover the basics, they are all full of bells and whistles, one of the few exceptions are threads like the one from Redsword, just keep the alcohol away from him.

As soon as you see another muppet starting a thread with some silly indy, just walk away. Focus on the basics, learn to crawl and the rest will follow.
  • #568,204
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:28pm Nov 30, 2011 1:28pm
Quoting cloggie
IT does piss me off royally how so many noobies get distracted by all the hype, marketing and sh!t out there, that is utterly worthless. All those noobies lose precious time chasing the nonexisting solutions instead of focusing on learning to trade.

Millions of dollars are wasted each and every year on total useless crap.

None of the strategies/systems/indies found here on FF are worth anything and it is a total waste of a noobies time to spend chasing the nonexistent solutions offered by them.

The real sad bit in all these threads here...
well.... crokers gotta make money too, you know....
  • #568,205
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:30pm Nov 30, 2011 1:30pm
Quoting Alexone
Lol from what i remember he charged 5000$ for the 'broker program' he made himself so at least he was selling his crap for a high price!

That's how he makes his money, he can't trade, the shit he sells is useless, but he keeps on finding idiots to part with their money.
  • #568,206
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:30pm Nov 30, 2011 1:30pm
Quoting pkimnyc
well.... crokers gotta make money too, you know....

Yup, and there will always be a new busload and a new generation of idiots falling for it. Just look at the amount of money made by these idiots publishing self help books, that industry is worth hundreds of millions and it is all based on hype and marketing.
  • #568,207
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:32pm Nov 30, 2011 1:32pm
Quoting cloggie
IT does piss me off royally how so many noobies get distracted by all the hype, marketing and sh!t out there, that is utterly worthless. All those noobies lose precious time chasing the nonexisting solutions instead of focusing on learning to trade.

Millions of dollars are wasted each and every year on total useless crap.

None of the strategies/systems/indies found here on FF are worth anything and it is a total waste of a noobies time to spend chasing the nonexistent solutions offered by them.

The real sad bit in all these threads here on FF...
sadly, without Newbie's ploughing there hard earned savings and losing them ofcourse into the markets, there would be no market as there would be no money to pay for the bankers huge wages and bonus's not to mention all the other costs there companys have.

Other than that brokerage that failed recently, they all make money so there not making off each other they are purely making off retail, millions of us and relatively small amounts add up.

The problem is most the basics taught on here, H4, rsi bla bla bla is all utter crap to and worthless so really don't go on any trading site at all, much better off working it out entirely for yourself.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #568,208
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:33pm Nov 30, 2011 1:33pm
Quoting cloggie
IT does piss me off royally how so many noobies get distracted by all the hype, marketing and sh!t out there, that is utterly worthless. All those noobies lose precious time chasing the nonexisting solutions instead of focusing on learning to trade.

Millions of dollars are wasted each and every year on total useless crap.

None of the strategies/systems/indies found here on FF are worth anything and it is a total waste of a noobies time to spend chasing the nonexistent solutions offered by them.

The real sad bit in all these threads here on FF...
hes got courage to say that
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #568,209
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:36pm Nov 30, 2011 1:36pm
Quoting cloggie
IT does piss me off royally how so many noobies get distracted by all the hype, marketing and sh!t out there, that is utterly worthless. All those noobies lose precious time chasing the nonexisting solutions instead of focusing on learning to trade.

Millions of dollars are wasted each and every year on total useless crap.

None of the strategies/systems/indies found here on FF are worth anything and it is a total waste of a noobies time to spend chasing the nonexistent solutions offered by them.

The real sad bit in all these threads here...
a deep undersstanding of microstructure and a book on technical anylysis and thousands of hours in from of the screen is the only way to form a profitable system...

use the money spent on a mentor to pay your bills and lock yourself in a cave with an internet connection and a computer for a year
  • #568,210
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:36pm Nov 30, 2011 1:36pm
Quoting Turveyd
The problem is most the basics taught on here, H4, rsi bla bla bla is all utter crap to and worthless so really don't go on any trading site at all, much better off working it out entirely for yourself.

You are onto something here. Lots of readers of FF will never make it as so many of the contributors have never made it themselves, it has become a self fullfilling prohecy.

I saw that when I first joined and tried to help out by showing the basics and just get a basic understanding across on how the market and currency pairs in general work, and the onslaught of idiots who just coulnd't handle it was amazing.

I do venture into the strategy/system thread occasionally, even though I have never posted there and the lack of basic knowledge is mindblowing.


I have been using this Incrediblle character quite a bit here as an example on this thread this week, he has amassed 11 vouches and has admitted that he has blown up his last 39 live accounts and has never been profitable, what the feck is that all about, all the noobies see his 11V's and think he knows what he is talking about.

He had a post the night before the bigges drop in the US in 70 years telling everyone to go out and buy stocks, WTF, how freakin crap can you get and still be vouched by the other failed idiots here, like I said, it is self perpetuating.
  • #568,211
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:37pm Nov 30, 2011 1:37pm
Quoting fxjawn
use the money spent on a mentor to pay your bills and lock yourself in a cave with an internet connection and a computer for a year

I have said exactly that to quite a few on the threads here.

Still plenty here see this as a get-rich-quick scheme.
  • #568,212
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:40pm Nov 30, 2011 1:40pm
Quoting fxjawn
so true...

ALL MENTORS SUCK IF THEY WERE ANY GOOD THEY WOULD BE DOING IT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT NEED YOUR MONEY...
I dont want to sound like a kiss-azz or anything, but if cloggie ever decides to mentor me and asks me for money and i have that sum, ill give it to him. If you are a scammer cloggie and u dont really make money from Forex, u should open a school of scammers, where u can teach and be their king, because u are one heck of a scammer. Oh man, im turning into cloggie's fanboy after i hated him a while back. Usually u have the opposite effect on ppl.

On a more serious note, ppl, (myself included), will always spend a lot of time with crap systems in the beginning, because they have nobody to point them to the right path. There is just so MUCH info out there it's frightening.
  • #568,213
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:40pm Nov 30, 2011 1:40pm
Quoting cloggie
You are onto something here. Lots of readers of FF will never make it as so many of the contributors have never made it themselves, it has become a self fullfilling prohecy.

I saw that when I first joined and tried to help out by showing the basics and just get a basic understanding across on how the market and currency pairs in general work, and the onslaught of idiots who just coulnd't handle it was amazing.

I do venture into the strategy/system thread occasionally, even though I have never posted there and the lack of basic knowledge is mindblowing....
i have seen mostly systems that buy on blue dots and sell on reed dots! so what is the basic t oit? well they teach u how to take a trade.... but why? i dont see much of that going around...
thats what u mean the basics gone right?
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #568,214
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:41pm Nov 30, 2011 1:41pm
Ok, I will disagree, merely for fun, but in fact I stand behind all my statements.

There is plenty of informations here on FF. You just need to know where to look and how to filter the cr@p. I find this place priceless. There are people worthy to follow here. To name a few: sisse, muppetslayer, The Fool, PipTrapper, fontu. Each one of these taught me something usefull and most of them keep doing it.

T
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #568,215
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:42pm Nov 30, 2011 1:42pm
Quoting cloggie
You are onto something here. Lots of readers of FF will never make it as so many of the contributors have never made it themselves, it has become a self fullfilling prohecy.

I saw that when I first joined and tried to help out by teaching the basics and just get a basic understanding across on how the market and currency pairs in general work, and the onslaught of idiots who just coulnd't handle it was amazing.

I do venture into the strategy/system thread occasionally, even though I have never posted there and the lack of basic knowledge is mindblowing....
Yep idiots teaching idiots, they get an occasionaly random chance win and that justifies there on the right track and they keep scalping with H4 like it really has meaning.

If anyone tries to help them, they get ran off.

The sell off on EU had everyones SL's hit then they all jumped on the down train and look what happened, the bankers played with them, loads up millions of lots then wipes them all out, using news they'd already predicted the outcome to.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #568,216
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:43pm Nov 30, 2011 1:43pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Ok, I will disagree, merely for fun, but in fact I stand behind all my statements.

There is plenty of informations here on FF. You just need to know where to look and how to filter the cr@p. I find this place priceless. There are people worthy to follow here. To name a few: sisse, muppetslayer, The Fool, PipTrapper, fontu. Each one of these taught me something usefull and most of them keep doing it.

T

You are right, there are a few real decent contributors here on this thread and on a few others, however name me one system/strategy thread here that is worth a couple of million in succesful accounts of traders that use them, none.

I use outside managers for some of my capital and if they can't show 5-10years history and at least a Bn in investment and give me a few of them to call, then they can go take a hike and I will move on.

Any serious money manager will sit down with you, give you full disclosure and will answer all your questions, short of detailed strategy questions.

As soon as you ask any of this from any of the system/strategy contributors, they go right on the attack.

FF should make it mandatory to have a min of 100k live account and a min of 3 years audited history before you can post over there, alternatively all the noobs here should use that standard as a minimum to judge the contributors.

Most muppets on the system/strategy thread just post some crap in the hope that other contributors will finetune it for them and they may end up with something of an edge after trying it for 3 years and having a few hundred others give it input.

If you are on to a winner, the last thing you are going to do is give it away to some anonymous muppet on an anonymous forum.
  • #568,217
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:44pm Nov 30, 2011 1:44pm
Quoting cloggie
I have been using this Incrediblle character quite a bit here as an example on this thread this week, he has amassed 11 vouches and has admitted that he has blown up his last 39 live accounts and has never been profitable, what the feck is that all about, all the noobies see his 11V's and think he knows what he is talking about.

He had a post the night before the bigges drop in the US in 70 years telling everyone to go out and buy stocks, WTF, how freakin crap can you get and still be vouched by the other failed idiots here, like I said, it is...
Navin is a classic example to, 100's of V's until recently he'd never made a profitable live trade and still trades with $0.1 lots on a pretty descent sized account.

V's are worthless totally.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #568,218
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:44pm Nov 30, 2011 1:44pm
Quoting Alexone
I dont want to sound like a kiss-azz or anything, but if cloggie ever decides to mentor me and asks me for money and i have that sum, ill give it to him. If you are a scammer cloggie and u dont really make money from Forex, u should open a school of scammers, where u can teach and be their king, because u are one heck of a scammer. Oh man, im turning into cloggie's fanboy after i hated him a while back. Usually u have the opposite effect on ppl.

On a more serious note, ppl, (myself included), will always spend a lot of time with crap systems...
you should actually be glad. many losers are good for your winning trades.
  • #568,219
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:45pm Nov 30, 2011 1:45pm
Quoting cloggie
You are right, there are a few real decent contributors here on this thread and on a few others, however name me one system/strategy thread here that is worth a couple of million in succesful accounts of traders that use them, none.
isnt it funny all the great system/strategies are instead on the discussion and or the journal threads?
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #568,220
  • Nov 30, 2011 1:46pm Nov 30, 2011 1:46pm
On a more serious note...could someone remove the magnet from yesterday's high??

thx
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