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  • #28,541
  • Edited 8:02am Nov 29, 2011 7:14am | Edited 8:02am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Re-entered M15 SonicR short with down trend.
EU:

Stopped out with 20 pips loss from EP to SL,....another non-London session trade.
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  • #28,542
  • Edited 8:03am Nov 29, 2011 7:16am | Edited 8:03am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

M15 SonicR short re-entry (EP= 1.5498), with the H4 trend. PA is lingering just below whole number after being driven strongly down there. Bears vs Bulls at whole number area, but the overall bias/trend is bearish. With little time left in US session, I'm not expecting much, but still there is the possibility of a 30-40 pips run down towards the the range low for the day.
GU:

Stopped out with 22 pips from EP to SL,....and another non-London session trade!
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  • #28,543
  • Nov 29, 2011 7:19am Nov 29, 2011 7:19am
EU:

Entered SC trade earlier. Trade closed with 75 pips from EP to TP.
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  • #28,544
  • Nov 29, 2011 7:20am Nov 29, 2011 7:20am
GU:

Entered SC trade.
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  • #28,545
  • Nov 29, 2011 7:33am Nov 29, 2011 7:33am
EU:

Entered SonicR short.
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  • #28,546
  • Nov 29, 2011 8:09am Nov 29, 2011 8:09am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Here we go

We had signs of bullish volume since the pt 1 region. But as a trader, we shouldn't jump in take a position once the vol information alone.. He should be careful on his shorts and wait for the wave and PA to lead.

In fact, the trend was so strong and it went even further until it hit another stoping vol at pt 2.


If he had a long,,he will get stopped out or in deep red by then..


Then came the pt 3, theat was a nice wave and PA to enter the long and he will get a nice TP after that..


So to summarize, vol is indeed a very important...

WOW great stuff! I guess i was just looking through the lens of volume. Should have etched in my brain about the main portions of SonicR, rather than just volume.

As you described last week, i took one of the trades of a 'long.' With no volume and still in the strong trend (from point 1-2), only to get stopped out. PA Rules and still learning about it.



Great stuff TAH, not sure if i should try to understand the Sonic Scout, would rather try to master one than test my hand on another, but great job on catching some great pips! But the classic SonicR for EU was great (also for 5 min chart).

Not sure if anyone noticed, but with recent US crap news, the market still moved infavor of the USD. Thats after the dollar took the hit in the london sessions (happened yesterday and today). Not sure if news is being leaked (speculation), but why would the dollar gain strength vs all currencies after bad news? This happened last month when the Euro gained strength on shitty news as well. Meh, PA still rules, takes the leg work out of fundies!
  • #28,547
  • Nov 29, 2011 8:21am Nov 29, 2011 8:21am
should Sonic-R Setup be near ( Big one ) rounded numbers Level or not necessary ?...even if the dragon trend is clear
  • #28,548
  • Nov 29, 2011 8:34am Nov 29, 2011 8:34am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Entered SonicR short.
1.330x seems acting as support..
Only once it is broken,, more bear will come out and play..


Let mkt decides..


Sonic
  • #28,549
  • Nov 29, 2011 8:43am Nov 29, 2011 8:43am
Quoting HITMAN
should Sonic-R Setup be near ( Big one ) rounded numbers Level or not necessary ?...even if the dragon trend is clear
As you say, the Dragon and Trend should be clear. And the setup should depict a break thru or a bounce at some S&R area, during the London session.

When PA is near S&R (historic PA S&R, pivots, whole number levels such as the whole, half or quarter, or key FR or FE levels, etc.) into the London session, then that is when a PA WAVE takes on greater significance. When you see a PA WAVE, look to see that some SR and the London session is involved.

By way of example, the chart shows EU today, with the WAVE depicting a bounce up off of the quarter number area, and later a break down thru the half number area.
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  • #28,550
  • Nov 29, 2011 9:19am Nov 29, 2011 9:19am
Quoting traderathome
As you say, the Dragon and Trend should be clear. And the setup should depict a break thru or a bounce at some S&R area, during the London session.

When PA is near S&R (historic PA S&R, pivots, whole number levels such as the whole, half or quarter, or key FR or FE levels, etc.) into the London session, then that is when a PA WAVE takes on greater significance. When you see a PA WAVE, look to see that some SR and the London session is involved.

By way of example, the chart shows EU today, with the WAVE depicting a bounce up off of the quarter...
but watch half or quarter level could make me confused specially if my SL should be not less than 40 pip as the manual say ... i get SL Hit in Sell trade on euro today after price break dragon and quarter level........ could you show me please is my trade setup right or wrong
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  • #28,551
  • Nov 29, 2011 9:27am Nov 29, 2011 9:27am
watch this TL





A strong Singapore
dollar is key to the country's economic growth as it ensures the
price stability that will enable long-term planning, Prime
Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on Monday.
"A low-inflation environment supports long-term planning and
economic growth and preserves real incomes and wealth. Key to
this is a strong Singapore dollar," Lee said at a dinner to mark
the Monetary Authority of Singapore's 40th anniversary.
The Singapore dollar has fallen about 1.7 percent
against the greenback since the start of the year and is
currently near the bottom of its trading band, according to most
economists' estimate.
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trade safe
  • #28,552
  • Edited 10:24am Nov 29, 2011 9:47am | Edited 10:24am
Quoting HITMAN
but watch half or quarter level could make me confused specially if my SL should be not less than 40 pip as the manual say ... i get SL Hit in Sell trade on euro today after price break dragon and quarter level........ could you show me please is my trade setup right or wrong
It looks like you are showing a short setup going into the London session. It was a long setup involving a bounce up from SR (quarter number area), not a short setup.

You could have decided EP long just above half number, or have been conservative and waited for PA to pass previous highs (top of WAVE leg2, or the 3/4 number).

The second chart is another example, and shows a possible M5 SonicR CT break of a whole number. It is still the London session for another hour or so. (Please do not take this example as a recommendation to trade it. Use your own judgement.)
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  • #28,553
  • Nov 29, 2011 9:52am Nov 29, 2011 9:52am
can anyone help me a little? where can i find the manual for using the sonic r sistem? indicators? and templates? i have only the Sonic RV3 is there a new version of this sistem? i see in your chart that u are using diferent indicators, not nvo,qqe,cci...wich is the new one? (sorry for my english)
  • #28,554
  • Edited 10:35am Nov 29, 2011 10:11am | Edited 10:35am
Quoting coldteam
can anyone help me a little? where can i find the manual for using the sonic r sistem? indicators? and templates? i have only the Sonic RV3 is there a new version of this sistem? i see in your chart that u are using diferent indicators, not nvo,qqe,cci...wich is the new one? (sorry for my english)
1. Please thoroughly read Post#1, and all the material linked in that post. There are more indicators and templates and a summary.
2. Read first 50, or so, posts by Sonicdeejay.
3. Read last several months of all posts.

This is a large thread, so by doing it this way you will pick up the basics and see the charting most currently in use. Really, aside from the Dragon and Trend Line, and maybe a volume indicator, everything else is optional,.....use what you want. But the more stuff you add, the more stuff you have to detract from the Sonic R. System basics: S&R, proper PA WAVE, London session, Dragon for entry and Trend for bias.
  • #28,555
  • Nov 29, 2011 11:13am Nov 29, 2011 11:13am
a bit boring today...
final trade, long EU on M5 base..... tight stop, may leave it overnight.
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seeing through
  • #28,556
  • Nov 29, 2011 4:05pm Nov 29, 2011 4:05pm
EU:

Sydney has been open an hour. EU was sold down by the looks of it. Still, PA could swing up/down and be deceptive until the LO. That is when any proper WAVE becomes more meaningful.
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  • #28,557
  • Nov 29, 2011 4:38pm Nov 29, 2011 4:38pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Sydney has been open an hour. EU was sold down by the looks of it. Still, PA could swing up/down and be deceptive until the LO. That is when any proper WAVE becomes more meaningful.
Tah, the trades you had earlier and were unsuccessful, would you attribute them to being before Lodon Opening.
  • #28,558
  • Nov 29, 2011 4:40pm Nov 29, 2011 4:40pm
Quoting zz_zhang
watch this TL





A strong Singapore
dollar is key to the country's economic growth as it ensures the
price stability that will enable long-term planning, Prime
Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on Monday.
"A low-inflation environment supports long-term planning and
economic growth and preserves real incomes and wealth. Key to
this is a strong Singapore dollar," Lee said at a dinner to mark
the Monetary Authority of Singapore's 40th anniversary.
The Singapore dollar has fallen about 1.7 percent
against the greenback since the start of...

TL didnt hold , well . stop out 25 pip
trade safe
  • #28,559
  • Nov 29, 2011 5:34pm Nov 29, 2011 5:34pm
Quoting Flamegs23
Tah, the trades you had earlier and were unsuccessful, would you attribute them to being before Lodon Opening.
Yep and nope.

Yep:
Asian session beautiful setups most always run flat, or at least don't go very far. And they can suddenly reverse, on light volume in the asian session, or by getting hammered at LO. (So why do I bother? Because the setups look beautiful????)

Nope:
My own durned fault for not manning the trades and taking small profits. Instead, I let them run unattended, as though my bias (which I am not supposed to have any of) would guide them to profit!
  • #28,560
  • Nov 29, 2011 8:44pm Nov 29, 2011 8:44pm
EU:

Today there is one EUR high impact release and two USD high impact releases. Not expecting much until these start in about 6.5 hours. The last is in about 12.5 hours (see chart below). As flat is it is now, the feathers could fly later.
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