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  • #2,981
  • Nov 23, 2011 9:58am Nov 23, 2011 9:58am
Quoting MaryJane
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@MJ:
thanx a lot...
will test it soon...
greetings from germany to germany
  • #2,982
  • Nov 23, 2011 11:10am Nov 23, 2011 11:10am
Quoting Ghil
Javajames. You probably have seen this before. It is part of the "THV v4 Forex Trading system"
Hi Ghil,

No I didn't know it .....many thanks

Good luck with your trading
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  • #2,983
  • Edited 3:20pm Nov 23, 2011 2:40pm | Edited 3:20pm
I have used today in GBP/USD 15M the methode of JJ. It has worked great. As you can see, in the second image which i took from the demo trade +53 pips profit. Great

It will be nice if someone can give me a tip how to put better images here

Thank you for your help SteveFX. Great tool the Snipping Tool Every day we learn something

Thank you Evaluator for the system, and thank you JJ for making it more perfect.
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  • #2,984
  • Nov 23, 2011 2:40pm Nov 23, 2011 2:40pm
Hi Eval,

I like your system, thanks for the good work. Just tuning in..
  • #2,985
  • Nov 23, 2011 2:58pm Nov 23, 2011 2:58pm
Quoting yonxis
I have used today in GBP/USD 15M the methode of JJ. It has worked great. Sorry for the quality of the image.

It will be nice if someone can give me a tip how to put better images here

If can attache aslo the orders that i gave in my demo account, but wanted learn first how to put a better image. Thank you for the system Evaluator and thank you for making it more perfect JJ.
If you have at least windows vista (I think), search your computer for "snipping tool" in the search box that appears when you click the windows icon on the bottom left. You can just snip whatever is on your screen. Then save it and then include as attachment.
  • #2,986
  • Edited 11:36pm Nov 23, 2011 5:50pm | Edited 11:36pm
Quoting yonxis
I have used today in GBP/USD 15M the methode of JJ. It has worked great. As you can see, in the second image which i took from the demo trade +53 pips profit. Great
you managed to tinker with JJ's template? bravo! it's way too noisy for me.

anyway, back in page 175 (or 174?) i asked eval if he would have re-entered the trend if all 4 conditions were met again. and he kinda said "yes".

back then eval's original strategy made it through. today, same picture in EU, 2x in a row! there's a 3rd re-entry but i was already exhausted (dang, FX is a marathon!). unbelievable! flawless! i've never seen a system that successfully re-enters 3x in a row! maybe there's a system that catches the whole *!$%# trend. but the fact that this system catches most of the trend, in a re-entry scenario, is creepy wonderful! so eval, thank you!

in 6 months time, we should all get together in Ibiza! and celebrate the person called "eval." then add MJ and RJ and JJ... should i change my screen name to one with "J"? lol... and a toast to the amazing contributors and testers out there working tireslessly!

but i still use lindrich's HMA for entry/re-entry

ADDENDUM: the "re-entry1" was a sell at 1.3506 (this went up to 1.3529, didn't hit the 50 pip SL) and "exit1" at 1.3466 = +50pips

"re-entry2" was sell 1.3461 and "exit2" at 1.3376 = +85 pips

total = +135 pips

on the earlier trade, i was wanting to get JJ's system coz the spikes give me the jitters. lesson learned: if you have reached your mental TP pips and no spikes appearing, then let it run some more, or just take your pips and go. now, if it warrants a re-entry: this system signals you that opportunity! this is an impeccable trending strategy.

ranging markets, this will not fair as well. i suppose yesterday a lot of us was expecting even a slight retracement which did not happen. so what i did was to concentrate only on 1 currency, EU. 1 chart is eval's system in M5. and the other in M1 using HMA and SEMA of lindrich with 10 pip mental TP - hoping to catch the early retracement. i fared +37 pips there, 12 trades, 6 losses. but if it was a choppy market, this lindrich system would have been a real winner (or maybe i didn't execute it well coz i implemented SL???)

i guess that's where the "screen time" comes in - to be able to realize whether it's a full trend, or starting to range.

i so love this thread!

i guess for nov 24 another 100pip selling for EU? then range on nov 25 in preparation for a big move next week (end of the month/profit-taking)???? %^$* if this comes true again, i suppose there's another add on to eval's system = it tells you the next moves???? lol... maybe....
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  • #2,987
  • Nov 23, 2011 6:14pm Nov 23, 2011 6:14pm
Quoting stevefx
Hi Eval,

I like your system, thanks for the good work. Just tuning in..

Welcome. I hope you find it helpful.
  • #2,988
  • Nov 23, 2011 6:16pm Nov 23, 2011 6:16pm
Quoting MaryJane
so you are basically always in the market, taking signals without any discretionary selectivity. it can work a week, it can work a month, it will work as long as there's enough volatile moves in the given timeframe.

i will put an EA together this week so we can check how it did in the past.. it will help to discover market conditions that the system doesn't like. and be prepared when they return. they will.

[size=1]..the real thing: the EA will act as a signal aggregator/alert and interactive trade manager for manual trading (i will adapt...

MaryJane,

Any news. Were you successful? What was your results?

Eval.
  • #2,989
  • Nov 23, 2011 6:57pm Nov 23, 2011 6:57pm
Quoting yelena
in 6 months time, we should all get together in Ibiza! and celebrate the person called "eval." then add MJ and RJ and JJ... should i change my screen name to one with "J"? lol... and a toast to the amazing contributors and testers out there working tireslessly!
It's so cool that you're doing well.....it's great to take money out of the market

See you in Ibiza.....the first tequila is on you!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,990
  • Edited 7:33pm Nov 23, 2011 7:19pm | Edited 7:33pm
Quoting Evaluator
please post a screenshot and show us what you mean.

''a picture is worth 1000 words''
I did not take this trade, just a hindsight visualization to demonstrate what i mean. I did backtest with a member of FF today called pip26 who is also a follower of SEFC. Made a good 30% from Oct 1 - Oct 10.

My updated way of trading evaluation's SEFC is:
Entry:
-using RJ's arrow
-4 indicator line up
-HA must show strong momentum (big bars) and must not be in a ranging condition
-it is ok to have an opposite first spike right on the closed bar
-common sense: do not trade when price is not moving (consecutive tiny HA bars)

Exit:
- stop loss at -50 pips
-Wait for first opposite spike to appear
-wait for HA bar to change colour, if HA changed colour but the bar is tiny(not a big momentum) and the trend is strong, can continue holding it

- This is all the exit rule no matter if you are winning 100 pips or loosing 30 pips, there are no move sl to BE

Please disregard the ichimoku cloud, i just added it for experimentation, it is not part of my live trade set up and also, the entry top spike was from before and was not shown in the picture.

It seemed like the HA is a good way to exit when combined with the first spike indicator. It not only allow room for the trade to take profits but also get out fast when things turns around as its much faster than the arrow and it also shows momentum.

Not only is it providing good exit signal, it also shows momentum which is important for filtering out bad entry signals with SEFC especially when using the arrow.

For those of you who would like to join my backtesting, please pm me or add me to skype: johnjwong87
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  • #2,991
  • Nov 23, 2011 7:51pm Nov 23, 2011 7:51pm
The next leg down?........
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  • #2,992
  • Nov 23, 2011 7:59pm Nov 23, 2011 7:59pm
Quoting johnjwong
I did not take this trade, just a hindsight visualization to demonstrate what i mean. I did backtest with a member of FF today called pip26 who is also a follower of SEFC. Made a good 30% from Oct 1 - Oct 10.

My updated way of trading evaluation's SEFC is:
Entry:
-using RJ's arrow
-4 indicator line up
-HA must show strong momentum (big bars) and must not be in a ranging condition
-it is ok to have an opposite first spike right on the closed bar
-common sense: do not trade when price is not moving (consecutive tiny HA bars)

Exit:
- stop loss...
Nice. Many ways to 'skin a cat'
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,993
  • Edited 9:58pm Nov 23, 2011 9:47pm | Edited 9:58pm
Quoting Evaluator
MaryJane,

Any news. Were you successful? What was your results?

Eval.
hi, started to work on it yesterday, it takes some time. i hope to post everything by Mon/Tue next week as i will do the most during this weekend, no news until then thx for patience.

Eval, 200 PAGES, 3000 posts and the system is still the same well done
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  • #2,994
  • Nov 24, 2011 4:46am Nov 24, 2011 4:46am
Been busy with work. 1st trade of the day. Aiming for 20pips.
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  • #2,995
  • Nov 24, 2011 4:52am Nov 24, 2011 4:52am
Quoting jurn_e
Been busy with work. 1st trade of the day. Aiming for 20pips.

Welcome to the dark side.....lol.....the M5 chart!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,996
  • Nov 24, 2011 4:58am Nov 24, 2011 4:58am
Be mindful of this flag on the H1 too
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  • #2,997
  • Nov 24, 2011 5:05am Nov 24, 2011 5:05am
Quoting realjumper
Welcome to the dark side.....lol.....the M5 chart!!
Haha.. M15 has been slow. Not much trade on M15, and if there is a trade, usually i have missed it because of my work and chores. M5 seems profitable. Will trade M5 now, and analyse it.

Woots.. got my 20pips while watching Bruno Mars on XFactor.

RJ, how do you exit in M5?
What i have in mind now is i will either exit at pivots, extreme spikes or when the senti-emo change color.
Pivot Boss in the making~
  • #2,998
  • Nov 24, 2011 5:12am Nov 24, 2011 5:12am
Quoting jurn_e
Haha.. M15 has been slow. Not much trade on M15, and if there is a trade, usually i have missed it because of my work and chores. M5 seems profitable. Will trade M5 now, and analyse it.

Woots.. got my 20pips while watching Bruno Mars on XFactor.

RJ, how do you exit in M5?
What i have in mind now is i will either exit at pivots, extreme spikes or when the senti-emo change color.
Yipee....you got your 20

Pivots are a big reason for exiting, or preparing to exit for me. Previous highs and lows are also a spot that I watch like Noda.....and I also watch the SMA that I use too. Spikes and senti-emo colour changes always grab my attention too.....as do candles and candle formations.

Not much help am I Keke? Exiting is never an exact science and I think most of us exit and leave pips on the table......but we mustn't be upset about that. Sometimes I manually trail the trade with my stop loss until there is an obvious reason to exit.....it's hard to say!!! Exit with pips, and you'll be fine.....no one ever went broke from collecting pips!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,999
  • Edited 6:06am Nov 24, 2011 5:30am | Edited 6:06am
Hi everyone,

Here is a difficult exercise: trading GU in a ranging market.....not for everyone, but let's try it.

I have special set-up for GU, but I trade same way other pairs...

At first how I know we are in a ranging market ????.....easy I have 2 Semafor 3 without spike

Other important issue: bottom line of price channel is in last 6th of my chart....so I'll trade only upside

Now the trade: [email protected] (magenta line)and TP 1.5559 (yellow line) for 33 pips SL 1.55

EDIT: 12:04 GMT moved my SL to 1.553

GL to me and enjoy
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  • #3,000
  • Nov 24, 2011 6:50am Nov 24, 2011 6:50am
Thats all for me today......USA has a bank holiday so I'm going to sleep. 3 wins and 1 loss for a net +45. Below my target but not too bad from the PA we have had today.

Trade well.......

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
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