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  • #2,821
  • Nov 17, 2011 6:09pm Nov 17, 2011 6:09pm
Quoting Evaluator
Symphonie System Trading Tips:

Here is some information that will improve your trading habits. If you are like most you run a 5 min. and a larger timeframe window along side your normal trading window. . .

. . . First, run your 5 min trading window as normal. Along side you 5 min you would have a 15 min window as confirmation of your signals validitiy.

Second, if (see in graph) you recieve a BUY signal in the 5 min timeframe but the price action in the 15 min is not above...
Using your words for best express my question:

"If you are like most you run a 15 min. and a larger timeframe window along side your normal trading window. . . First, run your 15 min trading window as normal. Along side you 15 min you would have a 30 min window as confirmation of your signals validitiy.

Second, if (see in graph) you recieve a BUY signal in the 15 min timeframe but the price action in the 30 min is not above the trendline, do not take the signal as you see the whipsaw price action quickly reversed and moved downward taking out your stoploss"

Am I OK if I want to trade in 15M chart?
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  • #2,822
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:31pm Nov 17, 2011 8:31pm
From yesterday, I have used sefc in 5 min chart, I would comfirm the entry trend in 15min or 1h, and found the good entry point in 1 min chart.

using this filter some pull back signals.

This is a new buy signal here in Asian session
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  • #2,823
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:36pm Nov 17, 2011 8:36pm
Quoting wallstreet03
about simphonie indicator ?

what do you use ?

simphonie extreme cycle indicator
simphonie extreme indicator v2
or imphonie spike exprimental ??'

thank 's
template from post#1, i look at the experimental only when the original goes crazy (shows too many spikes) and i don't recommend you use it - it's not suitable for the strategy.

anybody caught these?
edit: closed usdcad +13 audusd +37 eurusd +30.. there will be reentries if it breaks
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  • #2,824
  • Nov 17, 2011 8:57pm Nov 17, 2011 8:57pm
Quoting MaryJane
template from post#1, i look at the experimental only when the original goes crazy (shows too many spikes) and i don't recommend you use it - it's not suitable for the strategy.

anybody caught these?
edit: closed usdcad +13 audusd +37 eurusd +30.. there will be reentries if it breaks
I just got 10pips. closed all. Using M15 timeframe. : (
MJ looks like M5 giving better entries, may i know how u filter the trades?
Pivot Boss in the making~
  • #2,825
  • Edited 10:05pm Nov 17, 2011 9:12pm | Edited 10:05pm
Quoting jurn_e
I just got 10pips. closed all. Using M15 timeframe. : (
MJ looks like M5 giving better entries, may i know how u filter the trades?
Keke I wish so much i could explain in some mechanical fashion but there's a lot of discretion in it. I try to focus on patterns, waves and visual correlation among different pairs. I'm entering on M5 or even M1 but the timeframe i watch most carefully is the H1, i'm watching 4 pairs at once in H1 (eu, gu, au and ucad) and trade basically turning points in usd sentiment.. but I don't use the dollar index since it's >50% inverted eur/usd. The four pairs... usually one leads and other follow and even if they have large excursions in correlation, the significant turning points are signalled when they start to bounce or breakout gradually, one after another.. they have their pivots, their SRs etc but if a movement starts, then they tend to follow each other. Yesterday the Pound was the leader and the Aussie the laggard (parity=gravity?).. when i see the turn in the hourly TF imminent, then I switch to the shorter timeframe with Symphonie template and look for a reason to enter.

edit: a snapshot of hourly drawing board.. with thoughts before the recent entries. the primer was the gu closing the hourly candle above it's DP.. note i didn't take the gu but the other pairs as they might like to see their DP's too, bottoms were clear and signals were there to trigger
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  • #2,826
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:16pm Nov 17, 2011 10:16pm
MJ,

What are the letters in your MACD represent? An indicator?

Also, where do you get your data source for the USD sentiment?
福 子 Victor V
  • #2,827
  • Edited 10:43pm Nov 17, 2011 10:31pm | Edited 10:43pm
Quoting camvcvoo
MJ,

What are the letters in your MACD represent? An indicator?

Also, where do you get your data source for the USD sentiment?
MACD? it's totally unimportant to me i'm only playing with this right now.. sorry for confusion posting a screenshot with another indicator.. the screenshot is analysis not symphonie. i always try to use some oscillator and i always end up ignoring it.. but fyi: MACD_Colored_v105, it's from Philip Nel's system, the letters mean RT/RB round top/bottom, VT/VB V-shaped top/bottom and TC=trend continuation.

USD sentiment? no data - just visuals (patterns, TLs, PA).. momentum
edit: now the market is reversing, aud leading the way.. will wait till frankie hour or even 1st london hour
edit2: i won't post trades anymore and clutter this thread. sorry it must be confusing.
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  • #2,828
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:51pm Nov 17, 2011 10:51pm
Quoting MaryJane
...
edit2: i won't post trades anymore and clutter this thread. sorry it must be confusing.
MJ,
I believe I speak for everyone, and if not, they'll say something. PLEASE DO POST! As someone who I believe gets the whole picture and is on the fast track to becoming a fantastic trader to be contended with, you inspire others through your posts/insights/study/and consideration here. PLEASE KEEP IT UP. I have come into conversation with many traders who have described themselves as seasoned vets and still can't hold a candle (no pun intended) to what you have shared thus far in your insight and analysis. You rock. And I will be looking forward to your next post...soon!
Blessings, Monk E.
  • #2,829
  • Nov 17, 2011 10:53pm Nov 17, 2011 10:53pm
I entry in 5 min signal and exit using 1min chart for 3000 demo account， I have bought 0.3 lot and exit in different site as showed in 1min chart first is because 1min candles formed a m top， I quit in neckline sencond is because the 1min trend line turn red third is because the candle downside the fibo support in this trade， average got 20pip. as in 5min chart there is still no extrem spike.
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  • #2,830
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:18pm Nov 17, 2011 11:18pm
Quoting We_R_12
MJ...
Monk, many thanks for your kind words.. i'll post if there's something worthy or interesting, but a lot less.. i only tried to tell how important is to look at the bigger picture - that's the best trade filter.
Quoting tufei
I entry in 5 min signal and exit using 1min chart for 3000 demo account， I have bought 0.3 lot and exit in different site as showed in 1min chart first is because 1min candles formed a m top， I quit in neckline sencond is because the 1min trend line turn red third is because the candle downside the fibo support in this trade， average got 20pip. as in 5min chart there is still no extrem spike.
way to go that's the key.. confluence, edge points and breakpoints in multiple TFs give higher probability trades... i'm adding that interpair analysis to it, considering commodities (oil) and equity futures could be even more interesting. why? i think the market is just one trade.. most of the time.

good luck to all today, i'll be back next wk
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  • #2,831
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:33pm Nov 17, 2011 11:33pm
Quoting MaryJane
edit2: i won't post trades anymore and clutter this thread. sorry it must be confusing.
Please do post trades MJ. I must admit that I haven't posted a trade for a couple of weeks, and I'm by no means suggesting that we should post every trade.....perish the very thought, lol.......but if we post trades every now and then then we all get to see things that we may have missed.

Also it's just plain interesting to see the subtle differences in trading style, even when using the same system.

5c

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,832
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:39pm Nov 17, 2011 11:39pm
Real Jumper,
Thanks also to you for your fantastic contributions over the life of this thread. And thanks for sharing your setup you'd been using...just curious, are you using that same setup and just changing time frames on the chart you're looking at, or is there some other more micro-viewed template you use when on the M5 or M1? If so, would you be willing to share? Thanks either way...and please keep on posting!
Ciao
Blessings, Monk E.
  • #2,833
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:50pm Nov 17, 2011 11:50pm
Quoting We_R_12
Real Jumper,
Thanks also to you for your fantastic contributions over the life of this thread. And thanks for sharing your setup you'd been using...just curious, are you using that same setup and just changing time frames on the chart you're looking at, or is there some other more micro-viewed template you use when on the M5 or M1? If so, would you be willing to share? Thanks either way...and please keep on posting!
Ciao
I'm using a slightly different entry set up on the M1 charts. I haven't got time to explain it now because dinner will be on the table in a minute, and then Frankie and London will open. My M5 set up is here and I'll type up an explanation for the M1 charts over the weekend and post it here
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #2,834
  • Nov 17, 2011 11:57pm Nov 17, 2011 11:57pm
I was tired of getting errors in these CI's, so one I just fixed and am sharing is the Symphonie-Sentiment-Indicator. The error I was getting on the experts tab was a continuous "Symphonie_Sentiment_Indikator EURUSD,M1: unknown subwindow number -1 for ObjectCreate function". I also changed the sentiment print out to English, for those of us that don't read Indonesian. No biggie. Hope this helps. Replace the one you have and re-cycle your charts and you should be good to go.
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Blessings, Monk E.
  • #2,835
  • Nov 18, 2011 12:00am Nov 18, 2011 12:00am
I already had downloaded, installed and studied your M5 setup. Thanks for that, and I will be looking forward to seeing your M1 whenever you get a moment. Enjoy your din din!
Blessings, Monk E.
  • #2,836
  • Nov 18, 2011 12:02am Nov 18, 2011 12:02am
Quoting MaryJane
MACD? it's totally unimportant to me i'm only playing with this right now.. sorry for confusion posting a screenshot with another indicator.. the screenshot is analysis not symphonie. i always try to use some oscillator and i always end up ignoring it.. but fyi: MACD_Colored_v105, it's from Philip Nel's system, the letters mean RT/RB round top/bottom, VT/VB V-shaped top/bottom and TC=trend continuation.

USD sentiment? no data - just visuals (patterns, TLs, PA).. momentum
edit: now the market is reversing, aud leading the way.. will wait till...
Not confusing for me, i'm just trying to learn more
福 子 Victor V
  • #2,837
  • Nov 18, 2011 12:27am Nov 18, 2011 12:27am
Quoting We_R_12
I was tired of getting errors in these CI's, so one I just fixed and am sharing is the Symphonie-Sentiment-Indicator. The error I was getting on the experts tab was a continuous "Symphonie_Sentiment_Indikator EURUSD,M1: unknown subwindow number -1 for ObjectCreate function". I also changed the sentiment print out to English, for those of us that don't read Indonesian. No biggie. Hope this helps. Replace the one you have and re-cycle your charts and you should be good to go.
Thanks for the fix. I had the same problem several weeks ago and somebody fixed it but the new one mustn't have arrived at the front desk.

I totally concur with you and RJ - MJ is so incisive. we have been blessed within this thread to have a few wise and strong, patient people. It is rare for a thread to have as many pages with so little rancour. Please continue posting.

Cheers CG
  • #2,838
  • Nov 18, 2011 1:28am Nov 18, 2011 1:28am
thanks to all, i can't trade today i have some other work i postponed the whole week .. i jumped the gun a bit with this one (no extreme spike) but PA told me a story [cast: a falling wedge (gold), resistance that turned support (violet), daily pivot (white dotted) and previous momentum move]. time will tell.

hehe took off as i type
BEST OF LUCK 2U GUYS AND GALS
see ya all next week

PS: the PA gave me confidence to stay in the trade
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  • #2,839
  • Nov 18, 2011 1:42am Nov 18, 2011 1:42am
Took 20+pips

Long after senti-emo turned blue. Although there was an extreme top, i still entered because of the higher low in M15.
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  • #2,840
  • Nov 18, 2011 1:46am Nov 18, 2011 1:46am
Quoting jurn_e
Took 20+pips

Long after senti-emo turned blue. Although there was an extreme top, i still entered because of the higher low in M15.
Yep.....it was a text-book pivot re-test and bounce
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