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  • #1,621
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:30am Nov 17, 2011 3:30am
Quoting deankenny21
you did break 2 pretty BIG rules

RED NEWS IN 15 mins!! for GBP

and Pivot very very near
closed first news - 1pip
  • #1,622
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:36am Nov 17, 2011 3:36am
Quoting Udine
red news in 6 minutes: good luck

Udine
Missed that one, but got some 21 pips, I did also enter to early
  • #1,623
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:47am Nov 17, 2011 3:47am
short EU + 9,2 pips with trailing
long Usdcad + 1,8 pips with trailing
  • #1,624
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:48am Nov 17, 2011 3:48am
Quoting luipie
short EU
long Usdcad
both against the rules?
1) pivot
2) we're not trading this pair
  • #1,625
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:48am Nov 17, 2011 3:48am
dont worry.

I knew about the red news put in a pending order and got my +2.5 %

This is more based on my testing and experience. If I would trade according to my rules, I would be on the sidelines !!

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #1,626
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:50am Nov 17, 2011 3:50am
Quoting P.Dean
my take on the current situation..
we just had a PA switch from bear to bull.. but not proven yet, it has only hinted so far with HH inplace.. so buy signal that has just give us is permature (regardless of outcome).. bcz this long move is not proven for real yet..
so a solid pullback and a resume is the recipe for much more mature possible trade (sort of a iron clad that Udine stress)..

this is only my humble take.

green pips,
PD,
My chart looks like yours only, with the exception of a macd in the mix, but the two indies below overlap one another. Could you upload that template please, or pm if you dont mind.
thanks,
matt
Can you upload your template if thats okay
  • #1,627
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:51am Nov 17, 2011 3:51am
Quoting Udine
dont worry.

I knew about the red news put in a pending order and got my +2.5 %

This is more based on my testing and experience. If I would trade according to my rules, I would be on the sidelines !!

Udine
Udine u have taken alot of trades recently, against your own rules, yersterday you were up 7.5% and not one signal came the whole trading day

and now a trade against RED news.
This isnt a negative comment but more of a heads up about why u entered all these trades against all your rules, especially the last one.

I mean before the trade you even wrote yourself pivot very near and red news, yet after the trade you state you took it and got your 2.5% ?
  • #1,628
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:56am Nov 17, 2011 3:56am
Quoting artx
both against the rules?
1) pivot
2) we're not trading this pair
Why not?
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  • #1,629
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:57am Nov 17, 2011 3:57am
Quoting deankenny21
Udine u have taken alot of trades recently, against your own rules, yersterday you were up 7.5% and not one signal came the whole trading day

and now a trade against RED news.
This isnt a negative comment but more of a heads up about why u entered all these trades against all your rules, especially the last one.

I mean before the trade you even wrote yourself pivot very near and red news, yet after the trade you state you took it and got your 2.5% ?

It is called experience, due to the time I have spend demo trading it and based on all my data.

It is just to show that you have to gather data and analyze for yourself. But please if you prefer I dont post my results ... no problem.

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #1,630
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:59am Nov 17, 2011 3:59am
Quoting Udine
It is called experience, due to the time I have spend demo trading it and based on all my data.

It is just to show that you have to gather data and analyze for yourself. But please if you prefer I dont post my results ... no problem.

Udine
its your thread lol post what you want.

But im just confused before the GU trade you stated red news and near pivot
while writng that post, maybe something like i am putting a pending order in though Because of (ETCETCETC)

thenwe can more understand

because now in hindsight it looks all crazy
  • #1,631
  • Nov 17, 2011 3:59am Nov 17, 2011 3:59am
that was a nice quicky: Fast In Fast Out: 2 minutes for 10 pips.

stress free trading, limited time in the market, limited risk for my money.

Got my daily dose (+5 %)

Green pips

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #1,632
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:01am Nov 17, 2011 4:01am
Quoting Udine
that was a nice quicky: Fast In Fast Out: 2 minutes for 10 pips.

stress free trading, limited time in the market, limited risk for my money.

Got my daily dose (+5 %)

Green pips

Udine
this trade also was right on the daily open line

gurantee the next one take with all proper rules met i will lose while all these discretionary rule breaking trades all you guys took are somehow and mysteriously winners
  • #1,633
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:05am Nov 17, 2011 4:05am
Quoting deankenny21
its your thread lol post what you want.

But im just confused before the GU trade you stated red news and near pivot
while writng that post, maybe something like i am putting a pending order in though Because of (ETCETCETC)

thenwe can more understand

because now in hindsight it looks all crazy
But you should kno by now I AM crazy

I have an excel file with so many trade details you cannot imagine, It took me a lot of blood sweat and tears and then the time in the weekend to analyze it all.

Now it seems like nothing and all worht it, but when I was gathering the info.... @#@[#][## I was so fed up, but I was (and still am) on a mission.

Udine



Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last
  • #1,634
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:07am Nov 17, 2011 4:07am
Quoting deankenny21
Udine u have taken alot of trades recently, against your own rules, yersterday you were up 7.5% and not one signal came the whole trading day

and now a trade against RED news.
This isnt a negative comment but more of a heads up about why u entered all these trades against all your rules, especially the last one.

I mean before the trade you even wrote yourself pivot very near and red news, yet after the trade you state you took it and got your 2.5% ?
I agree with you. Trading news time with this kind of stoploss (also considering many brokers widen the spread) is the same as tossing a coin and you can do that anytime and it doesn't require any experience at all, lol.
  • #1,635
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:08am Nov 17, 2011 4:08am
Quoting deankenny21
firs trade this morning

another loser
DK,

I agree with Udine, you should really stick to GBPUSD and EURUSD and get familiar with them. I've seen you pop up on numerous occasions stating loses, and I feel for you mate because you make some great posts which i learn from and i want you to do well in this as it gives me confidence too.

Just my 2 pence worth...
Matt.
  • #1,636
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:12am Nov 17, 2011 4:12am
Quoting Udine
dont worry.

I knew about the red news put in a pending order and got my +2.5 %

This is more based on my testing and experience. If I would trade according to my rules, I would be on the sidelines !!

Udine
Rolling the dice on the outcome of a red letter news event is at best a coin toss. It is your money and your finger on the trigger

So far I have seen enough "high probability" setups to build up a consistent track record.

No need to muddy the water by mixing in some "news trades" that do not fit into the "high probability" setups that the system caters for
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #1,637
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:13am Nov 17, 2011 4:13am
Quoting deankenny21
this trade also was right on the daily open line

gurantee the next one take with all proper rules met i will lose while all these discretionary rule breaking trades all you guys took are somehow and mysteriously winners
We have all different daily open line - some brokers are 00 GMT, some +5 GMT. Also our pivots are not the same. It's not, that we all are breaking the rules. It is some discretion involved with each trade we took. I didn't take E/U trade 15m ago, because I've got my pivot near. Udine has his 10 pips, I don't. Same system, same rules, different broker, some discretion. We will get (hopefuly) there, where Udine sit right now.

Frida
  • #1,638
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:13am Nov 17, 2011 4:13am
Quoting Udine
that was a nice quicky: Fast In Fast Out: 2 minutes for 10 pips.

stress free trading, limited time in the market, limited risk for my money.

Got my daily dose (+5 %)

Green pips

Udine
Took +10 on 1/2 and hoping to get lucky on second half , will post chart later
" Never let the past hold the future to ransom "
  • #1,639
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:15am Nov 17, 2011 4:15am
Quoting deankenny21
firs trade this morning

another loser
I don't see the mid pivots on your chart there, but I have ms1 at 1.02075 just under your trade so thats the reason I wouldn't have taken it.
  • #1,640
  • Nov 17, 2011 4:16am Nov 17, 2011 4:16am
Quoting Udine
It is called experience, due to the time I have spend demo trading it and based on all my data.

It is just to show that you have to gather data and analyze for yourself. But please if you prefer I dont post my results ... no problem.

Udine
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