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  • #28,121
  • Edited 7:44am Nov 16, 2011 7:16am | Edited 7:44am
Look at the volume study. PA was driven up to an area that attracted very high activity. Note the red Bear bar that coincides with the highest price in the drive up and with PA starting back down. Whichever way PA goes out of the range, it looks like the time has involved a lot of portfolio "adjusting" on the part of BBs. If this last trip back up to the previous highs offers any clues, what with all the activity then generated at the highs, it appears selling dominates. The BBs got the price back up where they wanted it and then took lots of advantage of it, closing longs (selling) and opening shorts (selling). Buyers previously dominated at the bottom of the range, but with less "force". It is as though the sellers were more than willing to let the buyers move the price up, so the majority of selling could be at higher prices. Maybe the next trip down will overpower any remaining buyer "force".

The overall trend is bearish. And the Dragon continues a downwards direction. But the BBs are hard at work. And until they get their ducks lined up (portfolios adjusted), they'll keep the price in a range.

All speculative, though.
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  • #28,122
  • Nov 16, 2011 7:16am Nov 16, 2011 7:16am
Quoting paapi
Hi SonicDeejay..,

Thanks a lot for the thread.., i've started reading the thread from the beginning., it is huge.., don't know how long it would take me to finish reading, but thanks again for being so open-hearted in helping.

paapi


Read post1 and last 50 pages..


Sonic
  • #28,123
  • Nov 16, 2011 8:21am Nov 16, 2011 8:21am
An observation:

Previous high volume bars on H1 resulted in runs (see chart below). But, the high volume bar today has not. Instead, PA went back down, and now is on an upswing again. Why?

Speculation:

The previous high volume bars marked the start of genuine moves. The high bar today involves a disengenuous move. The moves up today are for one purpose only, to get others to buy. Why? Because the BBs are closing their longs. Keeping the price in a range keeps the price low enough to continue to encourage buyers, while the BBs close their longs and go short.

BTW, CNBC just reported the surprise about EURUSD not dropping today, what with the bad news for the euro and the good news for the dollar......
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  • #28,124
  • Nov 16, 2011 8:50am Nov 16, 2011 8:50am
Quoting traderathome
An observation:

Previous high volume bars on H1 resulted in runs (see chart below). But, the high volume bar today has not. Instead, PA went back down, and now is on an upswing again. Why?

Speculation:

The previous high volume bars marked the start of genuine moves. The high bar today involves a disengenuous move. The moves up today are for one purpose only, to get others to buy. Why? Because the BBs are closing their longs. Keeping the price in a range keeps the price low enough to continue to encourage buyers, while the BBs close...
Nice observation
  • #28,125
  • Nov 16, 2011 10:21am Nov 16, 2011 10:21am
Quoting traderathome
Look at the volume study.

All speculative, though.
Hi TAH,
My volume does not have a red bar ? i think it shows green..my settings wrong ?

EDIT: sorry my fault, i was looking at m15, while you were on m5
thanks.
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  • #28,126
  • Nov 16, 2011 12:01pm Nov 16, 2011 12:01pm
Quoting ziggiii
okay I think the HIGH is in...
came last hour ...the CYCLES always to the right time or with just 1 Time-unit tolerance...

lets get to the LOW in about 3-4 hours...
ziggiii, by what method do you determine the anticipated arrival of highs and lows.....the cycles? Surely, the frequency of such cycles varies because the market is not consistent in this matter. Since you have brought up the subject, would you like to explain it all for the benefit of those here that are puzzled by your remarks?
  • #28,127
  • Nov 16, 2011 12:24pm Nov 16, 2011 12:24pm
Quoting ziggiii
CYCLES:
if anyone is interested please PM me...
note:
these CYCLES will not change in the future ...I have backtested them since the early 1970's...
and they are still working...these CYCLES are market-dominating


ziggiii
  • #28,128
  • Nov 16, 2011 12:29pm Nov 16, 2011 12:29pm
It might be on the move down now. M5 shows new Sonic R. setup with PA already below the EP area for the setup. PA has also broken a M5 trend line, and it has dropped again down thru the 1.3500 whole number. It is in a range of approximately 100 pips and currently is only about half way down in the range, so it is too early to be sure if this is the start of a move down that will hit new lows.

I am still in my short trade. Aside from noting that I had to bump up my mental SL, this trade has been absolutely boring. Maybe the rest of today and/or the asian session tomorrow will breath new life into it.
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  • #28,129
  • Nov 16, 2011 2:31pm Nov 16, 2011 2:31pm
Quoting traderathome
It might be on the move down now. M5 shows new Sonic R. setup with PA already below the EP area for the setup. PA has also broken a M5 trend line, and it has dropped again down thru the 1.3500 whole number. It is in a range of approximately 100 pips and currently is only about half way down in the range, so it is too early to be sure if this is the start of a move down that will hit new lows.

I am still in my short trade. Aside from noting that I had to bump up my mental SL, this trade has been absolutely boring. Maybe the rest of today and/or...


Great Harvet TAH..
PA, waves and s/r rule..




Sonic
  • #28,130
  • Nov 16, 2011 2:55pm Nov 16, 2011 2:55pm
Wow, you saw that coming.
  • #28,131
  • Nov 16, 2011 3:13pm Nov 16, 2011 3:13pm
Is there a reading out there on PA that you guys recommend?
  • #28,132
  • Nov 16, 2011 3:26pm Nov 16, 2011 3:26pm
Quoting traderathome
It might be on the move down now. M5 shows new Sonic R. setup with PA already below the EP area for the setup. PA has also broken a M5 trend line, and it has dropped again down thru the 1.3500 whole number. It is in a range of approximately 100 pips and currently is only about half way down in the range, so it is too early to be sure if this is the start of a move down that will hit new lows.

I am still in my short trade. Aside from noting that I had to bump up my mental SL, this trade has been absolutely boring. Maybe the rest of today and/or...
Late in the last US session, PA was quickly taken down to the bottom of the PA range. This is the same type of rather quick move down that ocurred in the first half of the last London session, following a slower move up to the top of the range that started with the London open. And, in between these two rather quick moves down was a rather prolonged and convoluted series of waves/cycles that moved PA from the bottom of the range to the top of the range,.....a maneuver that took PA up only about 100 pips over seven hours!

Only God knows what the "market" was doing via all that prolonged convoluted move up. But, I have an opinion, which is that the BBs needed to get out from under their longs, needed to scam traders into buying them. And so without letting the price go so high as to discourage buyers, the BBs put on the convoluted show,....the slow move up....,to entice unwitting buyers to take the long side while the BBs closed longs and went short! The better part of the best part of the trading day was spent by the BBs executing this scam. And when it was over, during the slow part of the remaining portion of the day, the BBs dropped the price right back down to the range floor. Are they going to repeat this scam? Who knows. I just wonder how many millions or billions of dollars the BBs suckered into the long side of the market, while they sold off!

Well, my short trade is still on, now mounting profits.
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  • #28,133
  • Edited 4:32pm Nov 16, 2011 3:50pm | Edited 4:32pm
Quoting Flamegs23
Is there a reading out there on PA that you guys recommend?
Yep, the Sonic R. System thread! And more specifically, the posts of Sonicdeejay!

PA is driven by powerful decision making people controlling vast sums of money,....central banks, large investment firms and hedge funds. And, imho, for the most part these market rulers make decisions based on greed more than on anything else. Only God knows what these folks will decide to do in the market from day to day. But when all is said and done, these rich are out to protect themselves and their fortunes, even if the rest of the planet must go to hell in a hand basket. That there is "information" able to decipher and predict PA with any reliability, when it is so influenced by the decisions of these rich market rulers, is an absurd notion.

It is just my opinion, but I think we are better off learning to trade PA, rather than wasting time on the fools errand of trying to understand it. Learn to see support and resistance until it becomes second nature to you. Learn to see proper PA waves. Learn to spot when a proper PA wave is in confluence with S/R during the London session prime time trading. Learn the essence of the Sonic R. System.
  • #28,134
  • Nov 16, 2011 5:55pm Nov 16, 2011 5:55pm
S/D is working well
+90 pips


Fractal
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  • #28,135
  • Nov 16, 2011 6:26pm Nov 16, 2011 6:26pm
Quoting Fractal
S/D is working well
+90 pips


Fractal
S/D?
+90 pips?

Fractal, please explain. And when describing a trade (90+ pips) please post chart showing the Sonic R. setup (wave, EP, SL, TPs, etc.). Otherwise, the post is meaningless to current and future readers of the thread trying to learn the system.

Your help is appreciated.
  • #28,136
  • Nov 16, 2011 8:41pm Nov 16, 2011 8:41pm
Hello everybody !!!

I have a question, is somebody noticed that MT4 sometimes is freezing on the last build 409, 408 ?
  • #28,137
  • Nov 17, 2011 12:43am Nov 17, 2011 12:43am
has anybody captured this trade?
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  • #28,138
  • Nov 17, 2011 12:46am Nov 17, 2011 12:46am
Quoting alrightfrank
has anybody captured this trade?
On euro no, on AU there is the same ABCD, but in the right set up, just closed it
  • #28,139
  • Nov 17, 2011 12:54am Nov 17, 2011 12:54am
Quoting alrightfrank
has anybody captured this trade?
The entry was great, I wasn't patient.
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  • #28,140
  • Nov 17, 2011 12:58am Nov 17, 2011 12:58am
Quoting mavricos
On euro no, on AU there is the same ABCD, but in the right set up, just closed it
EU got stopped out +22, have a good morning fellas..
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