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  • #28,061
  • Nov 15, 2011 10:36am Nov 15, 2011 10:36am
Quoting dksolo
EU Short closed.
PA hit TP2.
Second half closed @ +100 pips.
Nice trading, dksolo. My hat is off to you!
  • #28,062
  • Nov 15, 2011 11:19am Nov 15, 2011 11:19am
Quoting traderathome
Doncex, I did not recommend a trade, not in either direction. I said it could go either way, and that the local trend at that time was down. There is no need for you to be a liar on this thread to garner attention for yourself.

Sorry tah,I need glasses:nerd:
  • #28,063
  • Nov 15, 2011 11:28am Nov 15, 2011 11:28am
Quoting Doncex
I think bull will not go,still goes bears in eurusd "clasical long trade"

my reason too divided support
I told ya,live clasical sonic r trades not worked in long distant trading

works trades only stone age

That is the reality of tradicional sonic R trades

But I believe that master and some traders make pips from this system,but they are making a lot of changing in system
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  • #28,064
  • Nov 15, 2011 11:33am Nov 15, 2011 11:33am
Quoting Doncex
I told ya,live clasical sonic r trades not worked in long distant trading

works trades only stone age

That is the reality of tradicional sonic R trades

But I believe that master and some traders make pips from this system,but they are making a lot of changing in system
hey bro, have you tried this test. it seems you missed something by that reason: selective attention.....

Quoting pipphunter
trading psychology is very wide topic, beside the emotion, perception, there some technical psychological factors as well. here is one of many: "selective attention" , most of us cannot avoid it. try this test:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg6qcgoay4

get it?? why we pick setup that doesn't go? coz, when you concentrate on seeking the expected object, something would be missed totally even it just happening in front of our eyes.....
seeing through
  • #28,065
  • Edited 12:34pm Nov 15, 2011 11:38am | Edited 12:34pm
Quoting Doncex
gold long trade reached poor 47 pips,waiting for another re entry long wave

usdchf short still open
usdchf hit sl,40 pips

gold looks bullish,I will take long setup,if I see more yelow volume candles in volume indicator ,if not,setup will be not enter
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  • #28,066
  • Nov 15, 2011 11:48am Nov 15, 2011 11:48am
Quoting pipphunter
hey bro, have you tried this test. it seems you missed something by that reason: selective attention.....
Testing is a time wasting,past results will never be in future.

I have some question why sonicers cant show sonic r system results,for example in myfxbook.com,or in zulutrde?

answer is simple no good results in long distant trading,tradicional sonic not working it is reality

Sorry if what hurt of sonic,but I trying to show reality.

need to change system.make improvements
  • #28,067
  • Nov 15, 2011 12:23pm Nov 15, 2011 12:23pm
Quoting Doncex
Sorry tah,I need glasses:nerd:
Apology accepted, Doncex.

Now, about your "system",......do you want to give a "run down" on it, with a chart or two, to make it crystal clear in what way it you have it different from classic Sonic R.?
  • #28,068
  • Nov 15, 2011 12:31pm Nov 15, 2011 12:31pm
42 pips in the bag. I think I am getting the hang of this. Any one want to share any thoughts on this trade?
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  • #28,069
  • Nov 15, 2011 12:43pm Nov 15, 2011 12:43pm
traderathome
  • #28,070
  • Nov 15, 2011 12:44pm Nov 15, 2011 12:44pm
Quoting Flamegs23
42 pips in the bag. I think I am getting the hang of this. Any one want to share any thoughts on this trade?
Fine trade. Congratulations.

Your entry level and exit levels were good. It is difficult to determine from the chart if the time of entry was before the London open, or later just after the London open during the run back down. The later entry time would be preferred because pre-London PA can involve head fakes (Frankfurt Headfake), which might have been a head fake down and then find that PA moves up during the London session. So, waiting for the London session to begin is a valid consideration, and one of Sonic's recommendations. But, I suppose we all do entries outside of the London session from time to time, when things look right. It is not prime time trading, and involves that extra risk,....something to keep in mind.

Again, great trade!
  • #28,071
  • Nov 15, 2011 12:47pm Nov 15, 2011 12:47pm
Quoting traderathome
Fine trade. Congratulations.

Your entry level and exit levels were good. It is difficult to determine from the chart if the time of entry was before the London open, or later just after the London open during the run back down. The later entry time would be preferred because pre-London PA can involve head fakes (Frankfurt Headfake), which might have been a head fake down and then find that PA moves up during the London session. So, waiting for the London session to begin is a valid consideration, and one of Sonic's recommendations....
Thank you.

It was an hour before London Open.

But I will keep that in mind. Thank you my friend.
  • #28,072
  • Nov 15, 2011 1:00pm Nov 15, 2011 1:00pm
Quoting traderathome
Apology accepted, Doncex.

Now, about your "system",......do you want to give a "run down" on it, with a chart or two, to make it crystal clear in what way it you have it different from classic Sonic R.?
a Lot of writing,a lot of screen trade analysing with correct setup trading

it is not only system it is most emotions

In future I will post some trades accourding updates system
  • #28,073
  • Edited 1:53pm Nov 15, 2011 1:07pm | Edited 1:53pm
And speaking of entries outside of the London session,......

I am looking at the possibility shown in the chart below. It is a long time between now and the next LO. Anything can happen. But, if the trend is down, then maybe we see a pre-LO pump? .....So, the BBs can, at a higher level again, pull the rug once more? (That's for duyk20. ) Or, maybe we begin a cautious reversal of the M15 trend? It could just go sideways until LO, but some "up" is a possibility.
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  • #28,074
  • Nov 15, 2011 2:13pm Nov 15, 2011 2:13pm
Quoting Doncex
Testing is a time wasting,past results will never be in future.

I have some question why sonicers cant show sonic r system results,for example in myfxbook.com,or in zulutrde?

answer is simple no good results in long distant trading,tradicional sonic not working it is reality

Sorry if what hurt of sonic,but I trying to show reality.

need to change system.make improvements
i think this system is ok, simple and profitable for me even not for you. Why don't u just open your own thread and show how your works there so we can learn something from u ?
a citizen of earth
  • #28,075
  • Nov 15, 2011 2:29pm Nov 15, 2011 2:29pm
Quoting makassar
i think this system is ok, simple and profitable for me even not for you. Why don't u just open your own thread and show how your works there so we can learn something from u ?
Mmm good idea

long as I was already thinking

It can change trading history

Patience fellas


Live trade just around the corner
  • #28,076
  • Edited 4:01pm Nov 15, 2011 2:34pm | Edited 4:01pm
Quoting makassar
i think this system is ok, simple and profitable for me even not for you. Why don't u just open your own thread and show how your works there so we can learn something from u ?
I agree with makassar about the Sonic R. System.

For sure, the Sonic R. System is "ok", better actually. It is a good and simple method of trading when done properly. That is to say, a proper WAVE pattern across the Dragon, the Dragon with proper angle, and all in an area of signifcant S/R based on historic PA, with entry during the London session while PA is on the proper side of the Dragon,....even better if on the proper side of the Trend line, too.

Some take profits within the average trading range for the day, and some hold (if PA looks good to them) into subseqent sessions. Sonicdeejay trades both ways successfully, based on what the market is giving.

And "...what the market is giving..." is important. No trading system succeeds consistently on short duration trades, nor on longer duration trades. And this is because what the market gives determines how successful those trades will be, not the trading system! So, it is falacious to believe Sonic R. cannot be just as good for both short and long duration trades as any other system. Why? Because it is just as good as any other trading system (imho). Beyond that, as Sonicdeejay says, it is a matter of......

"......let the market decide."

Good results from a good trading system is not because the trading system is good. It is because the market was good! And disappointing results from a good trading system does not mean the trading system is flawed. It means the market didn't cooperate! Put the best bull rider on a series of different bulls, and he will win some and lose some due to the difference in the bulls. We can only try to ride the market, different day by different day. No trading system will ever tame it.

The chart below is of the trade that the giving market gave today, and good for 65+ pips profit.
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  • #28,077
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:31pm Nov 15, 2011 4:31pm
Quoting traderathome
And speaking of entries outside of the London session,......

I am looking at the possibility shown in the chart below. It is a long time between now and the next LO. Anything can happen. But, if the trend is down, then maybe we see a pre-LO pump? .....So, the BBs can, at a higher level again, pull the rug once more? (That's for duyk20. ) Or, maybe we begin a cautious reversal of the M15 trend? It could just go sideways until LO, but some "up" is a possibility.


SL is rather tight..

Bear still rules

With the CT trade. I would suggest tiny lot with slightly wider SL for mkt to breath..


Timing is kinda out too..


Let t mkt decides..


Sonic
  • #28,078
  • Edited 5:09pm Nov 15, 2011 4:43pm | Edited 5:09pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
SL is rather tight..

Bear still rules

With the CT trade. I would suggest tiny lot with slightly wider SL for mkt to breath..


Timing is kinda out too..


Let t mkt decides..


Sonic
Hi, Sonic.

Yes, SL is tight. I figured if trade triggers in early asian session and runs for 20-30 pips etc, tight would be ok. But if this ranges until LO, then that definately changes to a wider SL for the sound reason you gave.

Timing,.....well, trade has not yet triggered. PA has not elevated to the EP mark. I anticipated a possible small asian, or pre-LO, run. So far,......nada!

Let the market decide. For sure! I have now set two charts for potential asian session runs, one for "up" (as already posted), and the other for "down", either way the market might decide. 'Course, my thinking was a small CT trade to boost the price (so the BBs could start the LO off right by pulling the rug, driving it right back down again! ).

Should the market decide on a small asian session move, I might join in. For now, I observe. Tokyo opens in about 15 minutes. I'll watch a while longer after that. If nothing, I'll probably close down until LO.
  • #28,079
  • Nov 15, 2011 6:45pm Nov 15, 2011 6:45pm
Quoting Doncex
Mmm good idea

long as I was already thinking

It can change trading history

Patience fellas


Live trade just around the corner
dont need to goto any other site... anybody can link up their a/c here on FF as long as the broker is supported.

is there any body here have it linked ???
  • #28,080
  • Edited 7:18pm Nov 15, 2011 6:48pm | Edited 7:18pm
Quoting traderathome
And speaking of entries outside of the London session,......

I am looking at the possibility shown in the chart below. It is a long time between now and the next LO. Anything can happen. But, if the trend is down, then maybe we see a pre-LO pump? .....So, the BBs can, at a higher level again, pull the rug once more? (That's for duyk20. ) Or, maybe we begin a cautious reversal of the M15 trend? It could just go sideways until LO, but some "up" is a possibility.
Hi TAH,
welcome back... the rules were actually to go in the direction of the Band.. if you have taken this trade in opposite direction.. account would be a little + now

edit : saw ur next post... +65 good one..
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