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  • #561,861
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:11am Nov 15, 2011 4:11am
Quoting cloggie
Gimme the bid ratios and yields, so I can leave the thread and go back to trading.......before I have to start muppetspotting again, that will keep me here for hours........
Spain
12-month bill was 2.1 versus 2.3 at the last auction.
18-month bill was 6.0 versus 4.3 at the last auction.

Relatively solid.
Yields still rising.
  • #561,862
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:12am Nov 15, 2011 4:12am
Greeks auction result is due any moment now, then we got a few others due here.
  • #561,863
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:14am Nov 15, 2011 4:14am
Quoting 21vs7
Spain
12-month bill was 2.1 versus 2.3 at the last auction.
18-month bill was 6.0 versus 4.3 at the last auction.

Relatively solid.
Yields still rising.

All the yields are pretty much in line with what the markets is trading at right now.
  • #561,864
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:16am Nov 15, 2011 4:16am
Looks like we found a bit of a bottom here for now. 3540-ish is holding pretty firmly. Time to scalp a few. No mid/long term setups on this pair right here. Time to play the range.


l8r
  • #561,865
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:17am Nov 15, 2011 4:17am
Quoting cloggie
Looks like we found a bit of a bottom here for now. 3540-ish is holding pretty firmly. Time to scalp a few.


l8r
bid to cover better.
  • #561,866
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:20am Nov 15, 2011 4:20am
Quoting cloggie
All the yields are pretty much in line with what the markets is trading at right now.
Bonds and macro numbers aligned Cloggie. On the bonds side, the name of the game has been on "new" countries IMO. Check Austria, Belgium and Spain (the next one in line with election around the corner too) but the awful macro numbers in the EZ/EU are weighting heavier and they are most of the time more sustainable than those intraday short term knee jerk reaction we have been trading lately in the bond markets.

ECB is stepping in, but the FA short term is aligning with the mid term.... lets wait for the chart do its thing for a FA swing...

sisse
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  • #561,867
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:21am Nov 15, 2011 4:21am
Quoting sisse
ECB is stepping in, but the FA short term is aligning with the mid term.... lets make the chart do its thing for a FA swing...

sisse

Spot on there Sisse. I am looking at exactly the same thing, Once the techs/news/FI line back up again, we got our next major leg in the making.

Like my analogy from last week, the ramparts are manned and the attackers are regrouping waiting for the signal, they're having a spot of lunch right now.
  • #561,868
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:23am Nov 15, 2011 4:23am
German ZEW Economic Sentiment new very bad, wait to re-enter sell at 1.3530
  • #561,869
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:24am Nov 15, 2011 4:24am
Quoting cloggie
Time to play the range.


l8r
Hi cloggie. Do you mean 3540 - 3650?
Gone to a better place
  • #561,870
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:28am Nov 15, 2011 4:28am
Quoting smikester
Hi cloggie. Do you mean 3540 - 3650?

3610 max, anything above that will open a further move up. We got a minor here at 3570, that will trigger 3610, anything below 3570 will just keep it tight here to compress for the next runner.

This is the suckers play, this is where the average noob will anticipate an entry without seeing the range that is forming.

So to recap, range tightening here 3540-3570, a test above with an appropriate close will open 3610 and then range 3570-3610. 3570 holding "strong" will give us another test of 3540. We got quite a few orders to pick up here so this could well sit here for a time till our next fundie trigger. That is the play I will be looking for. Till then I just play the boundaries.

The latest releases from Germany/EU are still pointing down, now we just need the big money of the FI boys to follow suit without the ECB backstopping the slide. That is what I am eyeballing.

Eyes on Italy we are nudging the magic boundary again.
  • #561,871
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:30am Nov 15, 2011 4:30am
sold GU here again.

sl 5900

tp around 5820
  • #561,872
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:34am Nov 15, 2011 4:34am
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It looks like the orange zone neckline has been broken to downside
  • #561,873
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:37am Nov 15, 2011 4:37am
Quoting cloggie
range tightening here 3540-3570, 3570 holding "strong" will give us another test of 3540.

Eyes on Italy we are nudging the magic boundary again.

Here we go,testing and Italy just broke through. 3490 wide open once 3540 goes, that is still in play here, this is only a test.
  • #561,874
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:39am Nov 15, 2011 4:39am
Quoting cloggie
Here we go,testing and Italy just broke through. 3490 wide open once 3540 goes, that is still in play here, this is only a test.

Nobody holding back the 10yr. 3540 to be decided here.
  • #561,875
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:42am Nov 15, 2011 4:42am
Quoting cloggie
now we just need the big money of the FI boys to follow suit without the ECB backstopping the slide. That is what I am eyeballing.

Eyes on Italy we are nudging the magic boundary again.
Thanks cloggie...
Gone to a better place
  • #561,876
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:45am Nov 15, 2011 4:45am
Quoting cloggie
3540 to be decided here.

Range is holding, back to my earlier post. You guys remember that play by play I did here last week, that's what we are seeing here again, like for like. No need for me to rehash what is going on, most of you should be able to read it without me showing you how to suck eggs.
  • #561,877
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:51am Nov 15, 2011 4:51am
Quoting cloggie
Not going to bounce a lot here. We got German/EU news coming in and quite a few auction results in the next half hour that will drive this pair further for the day.

Eyes still on FI, that's where your entries still come from as the case has been all week.

FYI, I did the same here, awaiting the next bit of fundie news. Let's see if the ECB is going to show up, that will be the only saviour for those attempting to buy this as it has been all week.

For those trading Cable on the back of the CPI earlier, eyes on Bunds to judge the safe haven...
Morning Cloggie,

yeah, I prefer to close my shorts when I feel we are close to the short term bottom, .3540 worked pretty fine for me.

I expected a quick bounce to .3570 area, anything above would be reason to overthink the situation, bounce bank below was more expected and it actually happened.

.3540 development should tell us pretty much everything about where we are going now. For the moment it seems it created a nice level of support here.

I feel like bears are gathering for a big strike here though. IMHO ECB is the only one who can save EUR from going down to shit now. Fixed my eyes on news and bonds...
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  • #561,878
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:53am Nov 15, 2011 4:53am
German Stock Market DAX tanking 2 percent, same with DAX futures.
Looks weak, cannot hold a level for more than 45 minutes it seems.
  • #561,879
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:53am Nov 15, 2011 4:53am
Trying Small Long @ 1.3530 Sl @ 1.3510 - Risk 0,5%
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  • #561,880
  • Nov 15, 2011 4:53am Nov 15, 2011 4:53am
Quoting cloggie
Range is holding, back to my earlier post.

Nuf said, childs play. Not going to waste bandwidth here.


Time for some coffee as the muppets are sitting down quietly in the back for once.


L8r
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