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  • #221
  • Oct 27, 2011 8:58am Oct 27, 2011 8:58am
guys.. i'm getting this message:

2011.10.27 14:39:18 2011.10.21 10:30 Spider: invalid handle -1 in FileClose



any ideas?

Also, im my crim does have a suffix, so would I need to make an adjustment? I have had a look but cannot see anything.
  • #222
  • Oct 27, 2011 11:10am Oct 27, 2011 11:10am
Quoting tex
guys,

does the spider_hanover ea take any trades today on your machine?

i have set it up on M5 with H4 trigger, slope 1, threshold 0,0 but it didnt take any trades today..
Tex, I am using the All Averages setting ootb and its trading away. Im up 8% in 3 days on only 2 pairs, eu & au. I added 3 more pairs today to see how it performs. Im still tweaking the exits though. Martingale is very scary and so far have not went past 4 levels, which I think is my max.
  • #223
  • Oct 27, 2011 11:21am Oct 27, 2011 11:21am
Quoting tex
guys,

does the spider_hanover ea take any trades today on your machine?

i have set it up on M5 with H4 trigger, slope 1, threshold 0,0 but it didnt take any trades today..
Nice on tex. This put me on the trail of a logic error. Fix in post 1.

Yes to the Cailou thingy buy the way. Asap.

  • #224
  • Oct 27, 2011 11:22am Oct 27, 2011 11:22am
Quoting Viv108
guys.. i'm getting this message:

2011.10.27 14:39:18 2011.10.21 10:30 Spider: invalid handle -1 in FileClose



any ideas?

Also, im my crim does have a suffix, so would I need to make an adjustment? I have had a look but cannot see anything.
Ignore the error message. No to the suffix thingy.

  • #225
  • Oct 27, 2011 7:33pm Oct 27, 2011 7:33pm
My demo Spider with Hanover set to D1 took a buy trade. I do not have slope of threshold enabled.

The trade is heading hot-foot towards oblivion. Immediate observation: the D1 RS is irrelevant to an M15 trade. This backs up Lawgirls assertion that we should be trading charts with a 1:4 to 1:6 relationship. Therefore, trading Spider, I should be looking at Hanover H1.

On the H1, EUR and USD are sloping back towards one another. Had my H module been set to H1 with a slope confirmation of 1, this would have prevented the trade - which just hit its stop.

Of course, we all know what will happen the next time Spider refuses a trade because the H1 RS readings are against it.

  • #226
  • Oct 27, 2011 8:14pm Oct 27, 2011 8:14pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
My demo Spider with Hanover set to D1 took a buy trade. I do not have slope of threshold enabled.

The trade is heading hot-foot towards oblivion. Immediate observation: the D1 RS is irrelevant to an M15 trade. This backs up Lawgirls assertion that we should be trading charts with a 1:4 to 1:6 relationship. Therefore, trading Spider, I should be looking at Hanover H1.

On the H1, EUR and USD are sloping back towards one another. Had my H module been set to H1 with a slope confirmation of 1, this would have prevented the trade - which just hit...
Steve, can you rephrase all that in English please, lol.........
  • #227
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:57am Oct 28, 2011 4:57am
Latest update in post 1 - fixed for the logic error I described in the Hanover thread.

Would someone care to experiment with using Hanover and turning off AllAverages?

  • #228
  • Oct 28, 2011 9:07am Oct 28, 2011 9:07am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Latest update in post 1 - fixed for the logic error I described in the Hanover thread.

Would someone care to experiment with using Hanover and turning off AllAverages?

Sure. I will set a new demo up for next week. 24/5? let me know any other account parameters you would like i.e. Account size, trade size etc.
  • #229
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:16pm Oct 28, 2011 4:16pm
Quoting panamamike
Sure. I will set a new demo up for next week. 24/5? let me know any other account parameters you would like i.e. Account size, trade size etc.
Fantastic. Thanks.

I cannot be the only one here worried about the Martingale aspect of this system. I would be stunned to discover that I am the only one wanting to convert to an, "I am right or I am out" system that does not rely for its success on doubling up lot sizes every time there is a losing trade.

I am 'worried' about the M in the same way as I would be 'worried' by the knowledge that an asteroid the size of Mars in on an irrevocable collision course with Planet Earth, and that deflection is not an option.

A point that lawgirl21 makes cogently (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=320335) is that we should be trading timeframes with a 1:4 to 1:6 relationship. So, if trading the M15 chart a la Spider, we should be ascertaining our overall trading direction from the H1 chart - a 1:4 tf relationship.

This makes huge sense to me.

On t'other hand, many others state that the overall trend as demonstrated by the D1/W1 chart is the one we should be observing.

This also makes hege sense to me.

So, given that Basic Spider is shooting for 30 pips on the M15, am I more concerned with the H1 or the D1 trend?

Or should I simply be asking whip for a few more chickens for ritual sacrifice?

So Mike, do you have the spare capacity to set up two demos? Both trade the M15 without Martingale. Equivalent lot sizes and start balance. No AllAverages to replicate spiderforex's original stragety. Set up Hanover thus:

 

  1. TimeFrames = H1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.
  2. TimeFrames = D1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.

Account and trade size are irrelevant, so long as they start off the same.

To anyone else: there is only so much demo capacity available to one individual, so if anyone here is able to run the above test with added AllAverages, then even better.

Cheers Mike

  • #230
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:46pm Oct 28, 2011 4:46pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Latest update in post 1 - fixed for the logic error I described in the Hanover thread.

Would someone care to experiment with using Hanover and turning off AllAverages?

I am in Steve...will post the result.
  • #231
  • Oct 28, 2011 4:59pm Oct 28, 2011 4:59pm
Quoting fchaman
I am in Steve...will post the result.
Have you seen Mike's response? No point in duplicating tests, given the way that H hogs resources.

  • #232
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:07pm Oct 28, 2011 5:07pm
fchaman's last post gave me an idea. Please see Testing Spider with Hanover in post 1.

  • #233
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:23pm Oct 28, 2011 5:23pm
Quoting SteveHopwood

  1. TimeFrames = H1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.
  2. TimeFrames = D1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.

Account and trade size are irrelevant, so long as they start off the same.

To anyone else: there is only so much demo capacity available to one individual, so if anyone here is able to run the above test with added AllAverages, then even better.

Cheers Mike

Im onto that starting from monday.
Will post a myfxbook for reference.
Best regards
  • #234
  • Oct 28, 2011 5:39pm Oct 28, 2011 5:39pm
Quoting blazko
Im onto that starting from monday.
Will post a myfxbook for reference.
Best regards
Fabulous. You are in post 1.

Cheers
  • #235
  • Oct 28, 2011 9:49pm Oct 28, 2011 9:49pm
Risking no more than 5%...so my tp should be 10%, and sl to 5% of my total account$ I do this part manually, because it is not implemented yet in Spider!

extern string te="----Trade exit inputs----";
extern int FirstTradeTakeProfit=0;
extern int SubsequentTakeProfit=0;
extern int StopLoss=0;
extern bool CloseOnOppositeSignal=false;
extern int AtrPeriod=0;// 0 turns off atr
extern int AtrTimeFrame=0;//Allows tf independent of the chart. 0 means current chart
extern double TpAtrMultiplier=1;
extern double SlAtrMultiplier=1;


extern string vq="----VQ inputs----";
extern int VqTimeFrame = 0;
extern int VqLength=8;
extern int VqMethod = 3;
extern int VqSmoothing = 1;
extern int VqFilter = 5;

extern bool UseAA=false;

extern bool UseMartingale=false;



extern bool UseMartingale=false;

extern string hm="----Hanover module----";
extern bool UseHanover=true;
extern string ctf="Time frames";
//extern string TimeFrames="M1,M5,M15,M30,H1,H4,D1,W1,MN";
extern string TimeFrames="D1";
extern int SlopeConfirmationCandles=1;
extern int StrongThreshold=0;
extern int WeakThreshold=0;
extern string hof="Hanover output file";
extern string OutputFile = "Output---Recent Strength.CSV";
extern int NumPoints=15;


extern string amc="----Available Margin checks----";
extern string sco="Scoobs";
extern bool UseScoobsMarginCheck=false;
extern string fk="ForexKiwi";
extern bool UseForexKiwi=true;
extern int FkMinimumMarginPercent=700;


extern string tt="----Trading hours----";
extern string Trade_Hours= "Set Morning & Evening Hours";
extern string Trade_Hoursi= "Use 24 hour, local time clock";
extern string Trade_Hours_M= "Morning Hours 0-12";
extern int start_hourm = 0;
extern int end_hourm = 12;
extern string Trade_Hours_E= "Evening Hours 12-24";
extern int start_houre = 12;
extern int end_houre = 24;

extern string tmm="----Trade management module----";
extern bool AlsoManageMartingaleTrades=false;
extern string BE="Break even settings";
extern bool BreakEven=false;
extern int BreakEvenPips=25;
extern int BreakEvenProfit=10;
extern bool HideBreakEvenStop=false;
extern int PipsAwayFromVisualBE=5;
extern string cts="----Candlestick trailing stop----";
extern bool UseCandlestickTrailingStop=false;
extern string JSL="Jumping stop loss settings";
extern bool JumpingStop=true;
extern int JumpingStopPips=30;
extern bool AddBEP=true;
extern bool JumpAfterBreakevenOnly=false;
extern bool HideJumpingStop=false;
extern int PipsAwayFromVisualJS=10;
extern string TSL="Trailing stop loss settings";
extern bool TrailingStop=false;
extern int TrailingStopPips=50;
extern bool HideTrailingStop=false;
extern int PipsAwayFromVisualTS=10;
extern bool TrailAfterBreakevenOnly=false;
extern bool StopTrailAtPipsProfit=false;
extern int StopTrailPips=0;
extern string hsl1="Hidden stop loss settings";
extern bool HideStopLossEnabled=false;
extern int HiddenStopLossPips=20;
extern string htp="Hidden take profit settings";
extern bool HideTakeProfitEnabled=false;
extern int HiddenTakeProfitPips=20;
extern string mis="----Odds and ends----";
extern bool ShowManagementAlerts=true;
extern int DisplayGapSize=30;
  • #236
  • Oct 29, 2011 1:22am Oct 29, 2011 1:22am
Quoting SteveHopwood
So Mike, do you have the spare capacity to set up two demos? Both trade the M15 without Martingale. Equivalent lot sizes and start balance. No AllAverages to replicate spiderforex's original stragety. Set up Hanover thus:

 

  1. TimeFrames = H1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.
  2. TimeFrames = D1. SlopeConfirmationCandles = 1.

Account and trade size are irrelevant, so long as they start off the same.

To anyone else: there is only so much demo capacity available to one individual, so if anyone here is able to run the above test...

Hi All

I can set up a demo starting on Monday.
Just let me know which parameters you want.
My VPS is hungry :nerd:

Regards
Alex
  • #237
  • Oct 29, 2011 3:24am Oct 29, 2011 3:24am
Quoting alex_forex
Hi All

I can set up a demo starting on Monday.
Just let me know which parameters you want.
My VPS is hungry :nerd:

Regards
Alex
Fabulous. Mike and blazko are covering the ones I am most interested in, so let your creative juices flow.

How do you fancy testing scalping the Asian session with different take profit targets?

  • #238
  • Oct 29, 2011 12:50pm Oct 29, 2011 12:50pm
Quoting alex_forex
Hi All

I can set up a demo starting on Monday.
Just let me know which parameters you want.
My VPS is hungry :nerd:

Regards
Alex
Alex, if you have some spare capacity, some help at http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=312936 will be great. Aurora started really well but did not survive. It would be great to see if H can offer a new lease of life.

My post at the end of the thread tells people what I think about using H with A. The M30 might be too small a tf, so maybe testing the H1 as well.

Cheers

  • #239
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:29pm Oct 31, 2011 1:29pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Fabulous. Mike and blazko are covering the ones I am most interested in, so let your creative juices flow.

How do you fancy testing scalping the Asian session with different take profit targets?


Steve. I will set them up for the Asian session tonight. We had some huge storms here and I had no Internet at my beach house to connect to the VPS . My apologies. On it now. Fwiw my current 15min only runs from start of London until mid day US session. It will be interesting to compare the results.
  • #240
  • Oct 31, 2011 1:32pm Oct 31, 2011 1:32pm
Quoting panamamike
Steve. I will set them up for the Asian session tonight. We had some huge storms here and I had no Internet at my beach house to connect to the VPS . My apologies. On it now. Fwiw my current 15min only runs from start of London until mid day US session. It will be interesting to compare the results.
Brilliant. Cheers.

Glad the storms did no worse than knock out the power and internet for a while.

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