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  • First Post: Oct 14, 2011 11:39pm | Edited Oct 18, 2011 6:45pm
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Oh, but this one is so much fun!

What is it?

This is a trend trading system using very clean charts.

Which time frame (TF)?

Any two TFs with a ratio of 1:4 - 1:6, for example: I use the H1 and the M15 TFs with a ratio of 1:4. But you could use the H4 and H1 charts (ratio 1:4) or the daily and the H4 charts (ratio 1:6)....you get the picture.

Which pairs?

Any, but I will only use GBPUSD, EURUSD or AUDUSD for illustrative purposes.

How do we determine the direction of the trend for our purposes?

Simple. To a "blank" chart add a 200 EMA/close/0 shift indicator. See chart #1 below.

Looking from left to right at the 200 EMA on the H1 GBPUSD chart it is clear that direction has been going up since around October 7, thus, until the direction of the 200 EMA noticably changes, we will only be taking long trades, that is, only trades above the white 200 EMA line.

UPDATE: I am finding the MA crosss work very well on countertrend trades on lower TFs also....just monitor more closely and don't necessarily look for as many pips as in a trend trade.

Let's look at the H1 EURUSD chart for practice in determining direction. (chart #2 below) Again, the direction has been going up since approximately October 7. Go through this exercise on other pairs to get more practice in determining direction.

(Note: If you are trading from a higher TF as an H4 chart, you would use the 200 EMA on that higher TF to determine direction.)

Finishing setting up the trading chart.

To the blank chart with the 200 EMA add the following Smoothed MAs:

---3 Smoothed MA/close/0 shift = gold
---8 SmoothedMA/close/0 shift = purple

See chart # 3 in next post


After the chart is set up, make sure to save the template.

SUMMARY OF THE "RULES"

Big Picture for direction comes from the H1 chart (or higher if trading another TF, but drawdown will be significantly bigger the higher TF one uses)

Scan for direction of 3,8 Smoothed MAs in relation to desired direction.

Make note of pairs setting up or need later review, for example, if they are approaching the 200 EMA...what will they do? Bounce off the 200 and turn, go through it, or walk along it. Those are the only choices.

When 3 crosses 8 on higher TF , move to lower TF for entry...look for a strong cross on lower TF and enter.

I monitor the trade on the higher TF, but that is a trader preference.
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  • Oct 14, 2011 11:49pm
  • hinnavaru
    Joined Oct 2009 | 109 Posts | Status: call on God but row away from rocks
Can I follow this with 5 and 30?
If you live in the river you should make friends with the crocodile
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  • Oct 14, 2011 11:53pm
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting hinnavaru
Can I follow this with 5 and 30?
Yes you can. Just get your direction from the M30 or H1 charts. That's a 1:6 ratio.
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  • Oct 14, 2011 11:59pm | Edited Oct 15, 2011 12:25am
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Ok, that's it......enter when the 3EMA crosses the 8EMA....this system does not have to use candles at all! That's the fun of it, although I do throw Heiken Ashi candles on it from time to time.

Over 200 pips on this pair alone last week using this fun system. Notice that the EMAs even pick up consolidation areas and retraces, but of course, what we want to see more often is that October 12, 150 pip move straight up....


Chart No. 3
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:12am
  • Pinhead
    Joined Mar 2010 | 282 Posts | Status: Take their money and run
Wow. That's kinda like the system I'm using. See the attached chart. Sometimes I color the Stochastic lines black just for fun!

Actually, that's not a bad idea, Lawgirl. Those pesky candles are nothing but a distraction anyway.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:13am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
I'm surprised how easy is this to understand, I'm afraid i HAVE to look at the candles hahaha.

Thanks for sharing!

Regards
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:16am
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Even better than GBPUSD last week...over 300 pips.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:20am
  • Pinhead
    Joined Mar 2010 | 282 Posts | Status: Take their money and run
It'd be really fun with an EA. "Paging Dr. Hopwood. Dr. Hopwood to the Blue Phone."
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:28am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
Is there any SL and TP criteria?


Regards.
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:34am
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting Rodcisal
Is there any SL and TP criteria?


Regards.

No, I am assuming traders will use proper money management techniques. But a trailing stop could be used or a hard stop at 2% of account, or a fixed pip TP, or a cross back across the 8EMA on a lower TF is generally what I use...it is up to the individual trader.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 12:52am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
Let's say i'm trading the 15M and 1H timeframes.
I should be looking at crosses back to the 8 EMA on 15M TF ??

Thanks

Regards.
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 1:11am
  • lawgirl21
    Joined Dec 2009 | 6,595 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting Rodcisal
Let's say i'm trading the 15M and 1H timeframes.
I should be looking at crosses back to the 8 EMA on 15M TF ??

Thanks

Regards.
Look for cross set ups on the H1, enter on the lower TF.

For that long move up on GBPUSD last week, I was watching for the 3,8EMAs to hit the 200EMA to see if they would be repelled by it, or go through it. The 200EMA turned price around (see arrow) and we had that nice move up.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 1:22am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
that was a pretty nice catch.
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 1:53am | Edited at 2:18am
  • forexhard
    Commercial Member | 557 Posts | Joined May 2011
I right there with you Lawgirl. Once you get over the fear of losing and you can trust your own intentions, making money at Forex can be simple and fun.

Here's a little envelope MA cross template of my own that I use every so often. No candles, just follow the white line and stay on the right side of the trend. How much easier can it be?

I guess great minds think alike, and all that.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:13am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting forexhard
I right there with you Lawgirl. Once you get over the fear of losing and you can trust your own intentions, making money at Forex can be simple and fun.

Here's a little envelope MA cross template of my own that I use every so often. No candles, just follow the white line and stay on the right side of the trend. How much easier can it be?

Hey forexhard, nice to hear about you, I'm very new in FF cause I was reading but never getting involved in the forum, however i will from now on since it's incredible the amount of kwnoledge you can get out of FF.
I was reading the stairsteps thread, pretty nice system yet powerful, can't wait to markets open just to try it out on demo of course.

I was thinking, what about a 100pips SL looking for a 1000pips profit?
Sounds crazy?


Regards.
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:16am
  • forexhard
    Commercial Member | 557 Posts | Joined May 2011
Quoting Rodcisal
Hey forexhard, nice to hear about you, I'm very new in FF cause I was reading but never getting involved in the forum, however i will from now on since it's incredible the amount of kwnoledge you can get out of FF.
I was reading the stairsteps thread, pretty nice system yet powerful, can't wait to markets open just to try it out on demo of course.

I was thinking, what about a 100pips SL looking for a 1000pips profit?
Sounds crazy?


Regards.
If you are asking about Stairsteps, then this is the wrong place for your questions. Please respect Lawgirl and keep your questions focused on her presentation, not mine.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:17am
  • tenthman
    Joined Mar 2009 | 41 Posts | Status: Member
This looks interesting. Definitely be demoing it this week. Even in a consolidation phase, if you exit when the 3 and 8 cross your losses will be minimal compared to the times when you win. Plus, it saves on wear and tear of the ole eyeballs!

There was a fellow on here who suggested this strategy: "go in with 2 or 3, and when you hit +50, sell two and bring the stop loss up to break even and let the third one run" until the 3 and 8 cross again. It's a great strategy because you've eliminated greed...and the runner is a free trade!

Thanks LawGirl.
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:42am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting forexhard
If you are asking about Stairsteps, then this is the wrong place for your questions. Please respect Lawgirl and keep your questions focused on her presentation, not mine.
I was talking about lawgirl's system not yours.
Yours is pretty nice tough.


Regards
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 2:45am
  • Rodcisal
    Joined Oct 2011 | 98 Posts | Status: Member
Quoting tenthman
This looks interesting. Definitely be demoing it this week. Even in a consolidation phase, if you exit when the 3 and 8 cross your losses will be minimal compared to the times when you win. Plus, it saves on wear and tear of the ole eyeballs!

There was a fellow on here who suggested this strategy: "go in with 2 or 3, and when you hit +50, sell two and bring the stop loss up to break even and let the third one run" until the 3 and 8 cross again. It's a great strategy because you've eliminated greed...and the runner is a free trade!

Thanks...
That's a definitely a good idea.
Do you use microlots (0.01) or minilots (0.1)?

Regards
let's skype: @elchinoazul
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  • Oct 15, 2011 3:04am
  • lehmann
    Joined Mar 2008 | 132 Posts | Status: Member
Just to get this right....?

Look at the 1H for the big picture, if the 200Ema is pointing up, then wait for 3ema to cross 8ema on the 1H. when that happens, wait for a cross on the 15M to time your entry? If 3ema has crossed 8ema allready on the 15M, then you buy immediatly.
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