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  • #26,961
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:01am Sep 27, 2011 3:01am
Quoting aligater
why do you wonder , do you need your thread cluttered with SL trades?
or rather a few winners traders?

is it not cool that he finnaly took a break to study , he is an adult and so he will take care for himself at the best way possiblle as we all do ,
give the newcomers --I did not say noobs that distract for trading porpuses-- a chance to mix in this group and you will see they bring it to a new all time high

while Tah will for sure return with more expirience ;no need to be so worried he loves to post more then you love to read it...

im...





I think its you that really needs to study how to relate with others on a pubic forum.
You are probably a great trader, why don't you just stick with that and stop this decry of other.
  • #26,962
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:05am Sep 27, 2011 3:05am
Quoting ddaytrader
I've decided to look into this volume/vsa thing a little more closely. Toward that end I've been reading Tom Williams Mastering the Markets.

I am not a VSA expert. I am not a volume expert.

I know that Sonic uses VSA, and we have a few others who read here who profess to know a thing or two about VSA. I'd like to hear comments concerning my long EU, which combines an S/R area with a long bar on high volume.

If are a student of VSA, then by all means, let me have it ...

DD, it is good that you have a look at the VSA.
VSA helps to explain certain turning points.
You will need to re-read that book many times before even scratching the surface.

I also cannot trade on pure VSA.
But mix VSA and some SonicR, then it could be better trading.
Like your other post mentioned, better you mix with your existing trading strategies with a bit of VSA for better understanding.

The chart you shown with big range down on heavy volume, seem like you actually "Buy" on that and seem that you are expecting Stopping Volume.
From that bar, there is "Yes Selling Pressure", and you still need to wait.
For VSA, you will still need the Next Bar Closed for Confirmation.
This is where other people here who use Volume but did not wait for next bar confirmation may get into the wrong direction be reversing into entries too early thinking it is Stopping Volume, etc.

I have not read the charts at all yet this week, so don't know what happened next.

Even for VSA, you will need to look at multi-timeframes as well for confirmation.
I have looked at D1, H1 and M15.
I cannot read much based on M5 like some other people who do used M5 ofter to read volume.

After reading that book a few times, best is to start reading FF's "VSA with Malcolm" from the start like first 200 pages, don't read the end as there was less focus.
  • #26,963
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:11am Sep 27, 2011 3:11am
Quoting foxybunny
DD, it is good that you have a look at the VSA.
VSA helps to explain certain turning points.
You will need to re-read that book many times before even scratching the surface.

I also cannot trade on pure VSA.
But mix VSA and some SonicR, then it could be better trading.
Like your other post mentioned, better you mix with your existing trading strategies with a bit of VSA for better understanding.

The chart you shown with big range down on heavy volume, seem like you actually "Buy" on that and seem that you are expecting Stopping Volume.
From...
Can u tell me which book?
  • #26,964
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:21am Sep 27, 2011 3:21am
EU,1.348x look like a gd support..

But 1.355x seems ultimate resistance too..

Sonic
  • #26,965
  • Sep 27, 2011 3:42am Sep 27, 2011 3:42am
Quoting Adeleke
I think its you that really needs to study how to relate with others on a pubic forum.
You are probably a great trader, why don't you just stick with that and stop this decry of other.
adeleke
ok lesson learned .
apologise here to people for the clutter.
Im young...

Good Luck

aligater
born to speculate
  • #26,966
  • Sep 27, 2011 5:51am Sep 27, 2011 5:51am
Quoting itsallover
No offence to you aligater but we don't consider TAH's posts as clutter - maybe you do but thats your own opinion and we are not entitled to it.

I hope TAH is ok and returning soon.
I do consider TAH's posts often "a clutter."

I do hope he is well, but I also hope that we he comes back he posts fewer posts and that they are of higher quality.

You do TAH no favors by being an unthinking worshipper. TAH needs the truth if he is ever to become a better trader.

Friends give friends tough love when needed.

Up until now, newbies would be better to ignore TAH's posts where he offers his "analysis."

TAH, by his own admission had not been a classic SonicR trader. I am hoping that when he returns, he is a new TAH, committed to careful, SOnic rule based analysis and SonicR trading.

But you are fooling yourself if you think his posts up until now are anything useful.

I have to say that this thread has become much easier to keep up with on the days that TAH is not here posting.

I think TAH has finally opened his eyes.

Now his unthinking worshippers need to open their eyes as well. Then SonicR thread might have a chance to be great again.
  • #26,967
  • Sep 27, 2011 5:54am Sep 27, 2011 5:54am
Quoting Adeleke
I think its you that really needs to study how to relate with others on a pubic forum.
You are probably a great trader, why don't you just stick with that and stop this decry of other.
Another one ...

You people really have to open your eyes. We are here to make money, not to artifically inflate each other's egos.

Sometimes the truth hurts. But it is a hurt that always in the end helps.

Aligater is right. You are wrong.

Time to open eyes, sonikers.

You are not a true friend of TAH if you can't see his problems and wish to help him. You are a blind worshipper who cares only about making his "feel" good, with no care to making him a happy trader.
  • #26,968
  • Sep 27, 2011 5:55am Sep 27, 2011 5:55am
Quoting foxybunny
DD, it is good that you have a look at the VSA.
VSA helps to explain certain turning points.
You will need to re-read that book many times before even scratching the surface.

I also cannot trade on pure VSA.
But mix VSA and some SonicR, then it could be better trading.
Like your other post mentioned, better you mix with your existing trading strategies with a bit of VSA for better understanding.

The chart you shown with big range down on heavy volume, seem like you actually "Buy" on that and seem that you are expecting Stopping Volume.
From...
Thanks, FB!
  • #26,969
  • Sep 27, 2011 5:57am Sep 27, 2011 5:57am
Quoting Gloryrose
Just a friend.

Only concerned about a friend
Yes, indeed.
  • #26,970
  • Sep 27, 2011 5:58am Sep 27, 2011 5:58am
I'll just make it bigger in case someone misses it:

Quoting ddaytrader
We are here to make money, not to artifically inflate each other's egos.
cut losses short, let profits run.
  • #26,971
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:20am Sep 27, 2011 6:20am
watching this one
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  • #26,972
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:39am Sep 27, 2011 6:39am
Quoting Ridmantas
watching this one
sonic said "1.355x seems ultimate resistance". So set BE quickly.
It seems that the trend is breaking through the resistance, if so, I will wait it retrace back and long.
Follow the smart money. Follow the probability.
  • #26,973
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:47am Sep 27, 2011 6:47am
Finished
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  • #26,974
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:54am Sep 27, 2011 6:54am
Quoting Ridmantas
Finished
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...ping-orson.gif
cut losses short, let profits run.
  • #26,975
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:57am Sep 27, 2011 6:57am
Quoting FelixFX
hey

this is my trade for today


we will see

I think was a good idea but sl was too close but corect.
Poshcom
  • #26,976
  • Sep 27, 2011 6:59am Sep 27, 2011 6:59am
Hi mate:

83 pips on GU today...

SL 18 pips...R:R = 4,6:1

sorry for the late chart, but i'd want to post it because it may help to someone.

Regards,
Nando.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #26,977
  • Sep 27, 2011 7:24am Sep 27, 2011 7:24am
Quoting nando_rich
Hi mate:

83 pips on GU today...

SL 18 pips...R:R = 4,6:1

sorry for the late chart, but i'd want to post it because it may help to someone.

Regards,
Nando.
pls explain your entry. Its not clear for me what this has to do with SonicR
Poshcom
  • #26,978
  • Sep 27, 2011 7:57am Sep 27, 2011 7:57am
Quoting FelixFX
pls explain your entry. Its not clear for me what this has to do with SonicR
It's an early entry based in demand zone...

It's below the dragon of course, so it's not pure sonic, but if i have confidence in a turning point and the PA confirm a reversal (candles pattern) i get the trade early for better R:R (i like 15-20 pips SL and R:R 3:1 min)...My MM is so...your maybe different.

Sonic trading is a S&R system, the dragon is just to help to confirm a entry point, but it's just an average of the PA...the PA itself and where it is placed (S&R or Supply/demand) is the important thing for trading.

Anyway if sonic or another sonicer consider that this kind of trades could confuse the newbies i don't prob to let of post this setups.

Regards,
Nando.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #26,979
  • Sep 27, 2011 8:08am Sep 27, 2011 8:08am
oki thx mate for showing that chart and explanation. but I prefer looking for pure sonic-waves
Regards
Poshcom
  • #26,980
  • Sep 27, 2011 8:14am Sep 27, 2011 8:14am
Quoting sonicdeejay
EU,1.348x look like a gd support..

But 1.355x seems ultimate resistance too..

Sonic

1.348x was a nice support indeed... Bravo to those who long..
I have got my naughty 80 pips..

Sonic
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