Sonic R. System

Thank you, TAH.

Thank you for noticed and remind me that vertical lines. i searched and found the same question/answer about it in this thread, and followed the instruction. my setting is +3.

Hi Sonikers：

Wonderful thread!
Hard learning on Sonic's system and find it just works.
Hope the thread turn to peaceful and focus on the trading itself.
Hope senior members like dd could stay and continue to share with your valuable experiences. Let time decide.
I respect for all of you.

Best,
Fractal

Could someone tell me how to know whether the colored sonic volume bar means following the trend with acceleration or reversing the trend? Only judge from the color dont help.

Thoughts appreciated...

Ddaytader is one I respect.He does things for newbies,posts poignant remarks for newbies,regardless of displeasing someone.

Sonic Deejay(sorry if spell wrong),our dear master,Tah is your friend,DD is your friend and other seniors who had always been with you too. Please say something to get rid of the pollution of SonicR systems.I believe that is the aspiration of all newbies who had read through all the thread. Only you，the SoniR system builder can do this,others can only trigger arguement and quarrels.

Tah, you have been dedicated yourself to this thread,I respect you too.I never forget that during the period when DD、Muhammad989、Basber and SonicDj were busy you had been kept posting to keep this thread active.
But,please give more concern to the newbies who have not read through all the thread.You may give them good trades,but you give them bad habits also.Not everyone has pockets as deep as yours.I suggest you build a new thread.

Poor men's words have little weight，I will shut up and see.The thread will keep pure and instructive,that is my sincere hope.

Ldytzhi

Please read the Overview at the top of the compile of the indicator. Instructions on how to find this were in the releasing post. Those user notes might help you. Basically, the red bars represent an unusually high combination of volume and candle height for a bear candle. Green is the same for a bull candle. Blue are for bars rising at least a certain amount above average volume for the averaging period.

I appreciate all you say. Just understand that the Sonic R. System is the Sonic R. System. And it is more than adegquately defined.

If you saw a person trading in a manner deviate from the system, and you wanted to trade according to the system, would you trade the deviate way? Of course not! What way a trader trades is the decision of the trader. Should any trader decide to trade in a deviate way, by following another, or not, it is falacious for that trader to pass on the responsibility for his/her decision to do so.

Let me repeat.....

It is falacious for any trader to pass the reponsibility for his/her trading decisions on to someone else.

Sonicdeejay has presented the Sonic R. System. Whether I, or anyone else in the past, present or future deviate from the Sonic R. System, by intent or by mistake, is not a valid reason for any trader to pretend they are not responsible for their own decisions. I hope this is clear to you.

It is what makes ddaytrader's axe grinding posts so dangerous to this thread. They promote the lie that the individual trader is not respsonsible for his/her own decisions on what, where, when, and how to trade!

I hope that point is very clear to you, also. I don't think anyone here, not even Sonicdeejay, has consistently traded just classic Sonic R. Yet, all of us are not to be used as excuses by anyone else for their own trading decision to not trade classic Sonic R. Nor should anyone, ddaytrader included, promote the belief that such trades of ours are excuses for someone else to decide to not trade classic Sonic R. All traders are totally responsible for every one of their own trading decisions. Period.


Regards,
-tah

DD, as you have mentioned me, I will respond and add to this.

I did NOT hold TAH (or DD or anyone else) responsible for my own NFP trade.
I hold myself responsible when I removed SL on that NFP trade, that is also an old habit that is a bad habit, not pick up from this thread.
Since I don't hold TAH responsible, you should not hold him responsible for my trade either.

No, that position is not a nano-size, I did not trade nano-size, it is bigger.
Yes, it does impact the account.

In general, I do not trade like TAH-style.

Regarding that specific position, it is the first time I have seen 1000+ pips for a single trade, except it is still negative.
DD, thank you for your concern on that trade.

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Next.

TAH has both a Positive and a Negative impact.

ddaytrader also has both a Positive and a Negative impact.


To me, TAH's main extremely bad habbits are:
(a) not having a SL,
(b) continuously widening the SL,
(c) and continously adding positions when there are existing losing positions.

When TAH do the following instead, that is a huge leap in improvements and will eliminate anyone from blowing up accounts:
(1) Having a reasonable SL and sticking with it.
(2) Not adding to existing losing positions.

I have mentioned the above before to TAH and readers, and I do not like to keep mentioning it as it becomes nagging.
Recently can see TAH trading with improved habits.

TAH mentioned BB quite often.
To me, the BB do exist, the difference between TAH and DD is the emphasis they put on the BB.
TAH put more emphasis on BB and explain price actions based on that.
DD does not emphasise on BB on price action, but rather on Supply and Demand.
This contradicting viewpoint on BB is one cause of conflict between TAH and DD.

BB do exists, it is just difficult to trade on it in a consistent and systematic manner by us retail traders.
Even if I don't fully agree with TAH on BB, I take his posts on it as entertaining read, and at times useful as well.
I prefer the Support and Demand reading of the charts as mentioned by DD.

In regards to TAH's trading style, I look for results.
I observe his charts closely.
And TAH do keep posting his charts, both winners and losers, and overall he still show positive pips.
That is "his style" and he may be suited for it, as it bring him the results.
So I don't try to personally attack his style or his results, especially I know he has good intention when posting.

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DD, since you come back, you have both Positive and Negative impact on this thread.

The Negative impact is all the upheaval recently in this thread, and at times your post is too much of a personal and sarcastic attack on TAH.

The Positive impact is that actually you have helped TAH, whether or not TAH knows this or accept this.
Since you are back, TAH is now starting to use some SL, he is trading more Classic SonicR entries, and he has some hundreds plus pips recently from single trades that were Classic SonicR entries.

You also helped other traders back to Classic SonicR and sticking with some common sense risk management.

You want to help TAH personally, but sometimes you want to tutor someone, that someone just don't want to be tutored.
That is why you are feeling so much frustration.
I understand this frustration as well when tutoring small kids.
Remember, that TAH is not a small kid, you cannot treat him like your son or even a gradson.
TAH is probably older than you.

Just because you are back here for 3 months, don't expect TAH to change just after 3 months, you can see even years has not change him.
It is up to TAH to change his trading style if he really wants to.

Your frustration is actually due to you putting too much emphasis solely on TAH, and I understand that.
Release your emphasis on that one person, and you will feel better.

You should treat TAH as a 1%, and treat the other readers as the 99%.
If you want to share or teach, you can keep sharing with the 99%.

Also everyone here who is a trader should be responsible for their own actions and how they decide to trade.
They should not rely solely on TAH, ddaytrader, sonicdeejay, FoxyBunny, etc.

As real traders, they need to be adults and to think for themselves to trade.
You do need to lose some trades or even blow up your accounts to sometimes learn the hard way. (Yeah, DD may not have blown his account to learn.)

DD, you don't need to help Everyone, just help some traders.

By teaching, you don't want to CONTINUOUSLY attacking one person's style.

By teaching, you just share with your charts, show clear explanations and texts, and people will either gravitate to those charts or they will not.
You can show either trades before or even when trades have exited (means don't show at the time you entered is still OK).
But do show both winning and losing trades.
You also keep sharing by showing your general posts with words and quotations.

Not everyone will gravitate to one style or to your style, so you don't have to share with everyone, then you will not be frustrated.
Learn to let go of those who may not be open to your style or not willing to learn from you.
Just share and respond to those who wants to learn and communicate with you in a nice manner.

If you truly want to share and teach, you need to be here more than 3 months and contribute in a consistent manner to have a Positive impact.

Basically, here at Forex Factory it is a public forum.
And anyone can post their comments and viewpoints within reason and without blatant promotion and degrading/rude remarks.

With TAH, ddaytrader and FoxyBunny, we all have good intentions when we post here.
Stick with this good intention, and stick with trading.

Now it is time for all to chill.

Yes,gentlemen,I got that.
I always make my own decide.I do not follow anyone.I follow sonic system.
I can discriminate which post i should learn and which i should not.I will handle myself and mind my own business.
Keep on your way, and best wishes.
Ldytzhi

Foxybunny, I love your post.
I love ddaytrader.
I love the opportunity to learn and grow that Sonicdeejay has given all, with the Sonic R. System thread.

I have learned from many here.
I look forward to learning more.

I have traded some badly here.
I have traded some well.
I look forward to trading more well, and less badly.

I do not enjoy conflict, nor a losing trade.
I do enjoy peace, and a winnig trade.

I admire and respect Sonicdeejay, and will ever be thankful for him.


Sincerely,
-tah

Looks like you are considering a short trade during the asian session. Your decision, but remember Sonicdeejay's recommendation to trade the London session.

On your chart, things would be clearer if you used blue or black for EP, and green for TPs.

Regards,
-tah

Hi Sonicers,

I have been in the background for some weeks to settle myself. I have some major changed in my career in order to get more time in trading.

I saw TAH and DD posts, they are respectable Soincers. Without TAH, this thread would not be alive, I appreciated DD’s hard push , and we need tough love like this in our trading life to become success.


For everyone want to improve the trading skill effectively, I suggest to use the article “the 5 steps to becoming a trader” in the first post as guideline.


First, identify yourself which step your are in. this thread will easily help to help you go through step one to three. On step four, you need to work on yourself, and DD’s love will be very helpful at this stage.


Second, you need set effective measurement to monitor your progress in step four. Just like the TV show “the biggest losers” you need to measure your progress in weekly base and find out what reasons you are not achieving the set target, and accept that fail as your own fault.
I guess going through step four is much harder than losing 50KGs for overweight person, I never been overweight, so I don’t know.


My measure of progress in step four is as follow:
1. Measure in weekly base, the criteria is NOT how many pips your make, it is how well you stick to the rules.

2. My rules are: (live trade with real money)
1). Only trade one pair, I trade gold, nothing else, even you see opportunityhere and there, control your greed, do as the rule said trade one pair.

2). Trading M15 Soinc R rules, including trading time, stop loss setting,ect, you can add more rules, BUT no any Soince R rules compromised.

3). In a week I only take Maximum TWO best trades, it’s ok to take one, ortake none, but no more than Two trades, even thought you see five valid setups, you need to pick the best out of it. Learn to be picky.

3. Monitor your feeling/emotion before, during, after or miss the trades, and find the way to handle that, keep a dairy of the feeling. if your find difficulty stick to rule, you will find the reason here.

4. on the weekend, review how many trades token, is that all fit in the rules,
If yes, that great, keep it up.
If not, which rule your fail following, and go back your dairy to see how did your make decision, and how your feel of doing that, this will the major correction you need to do in the following month.

5. I would put the problem I faced on waring list and I review every hour during the trading time to see if i did again.

The article said it takes 6 months to go into step five, I am feeling this could be shorter, depend your capital size and risk percentage. I start feeling nothing of making thousands of $$ or miss a trade, or stop hit, I still find myself some new problems and need to deal with it.

I will do this for another month, and will share more experience then.


Good luck to all.

PH

Hi all, this use to be the thread you could dash to in order to confirm your trade, before the London open you wonna hear people's projection and speculations. But now all i see is chit-chat about TAH and DD, Whatever happened to trading forex(the reason we are here. remember).
I wish we will go back to doing what we do and leave all matters aside for weekends.
Thanks

Here is my speculation for today. I will be away.
Have a nice day everyone!

Of coz we trade.
I have catious long 1.360x area.. Swimming in small pond with pigs..
Lolx...

Sonic

Gold, will buy at 1779-1785 range if the support holds the test.

I wish i could see the future. Entered a buy E/U at 1.36374 and closed at just 20pips. even though my tp above 1.36719. God, i need more guts

If done,where is your tp and sl?

Why long 1.360X area?SC trade?

if you have learned the Soinc R well, you should know, where to put the stratigic SL. TP 1 around 1799, TP2 around 1813 if PA break up 1806.
this is still CT trade, caution needed.