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  • #25,741
  • Aug 30, 2011 9:56pm Aug 30, 2011 9:56pm
hi TAH and ddaytrader,

how will you be able to know which wave is the start of a count for a SONIC R setup? because it is very confusing to know from which candle bar to count as maybe I interpret wrongly and maybe would think it's d reverse setup and trade wrongly

thanks
  • #25,742
  • Aug 30, 2011 10:50pm Aug 30, 2011 10:50pm
Quoting shujiXakira
hi TAH and ddaytrader,

how will you be able to know which wave is the start of a count for a SONIC R setup? because it is very confusing to know from which candle bar to count as maybe I interpret wrongly and maybe would think it's d reverse setup and trade wrongly

thanks
I understand what you are asking, but I do not know the best way to put it into words. The easiest way for me is to wait for price to settle into a range of consolidation. I then marke of a box of support and a box of resistance. I then let the waves develop within the large range, and I enter when price breaks one of those boxes.

One thing to be aware of is that any SonicR set up you think you see forming can almost always be flipped to show a potential SOnicR in the other direction.

Price does not go sideways for ever.

It will go sideways and then either reverse in the direction from which it came, or continue in the direction from which it came.

SonicR is at its best when it is used to position yourself for the reversal or the continuation of the prior move.

I'll try to come up with something better and some charts over the next few days.

-DD
  • #25,743
  • Edited 11:39pm Aug 30, 2011 11:07pm | Edited 11:39pm
Quoting shujiXakira
hi TAH and ddaytrader,

how will you be able to know which wave is the start of a count for a SONIC R setup? because it is very confusing to know from which candle bar to count as maybe I interpret wrongly and maybe would think it's d reverse setup and trade wrongly

thanks
At least two things come into play when looking for a proper PA wave setup:

1. The HLs, as in L-H-HL for a long setup and as in H-L-LH for a short setup.

2. Support and resistance, because preferably you want the PA wave to represent a passing thru of an S&R area, with a pullback and bounce to continue the move. The first picture shows some ways this might happen.

Watch PA when it comes to an S&R area. There is where to look for PA waves that might lead to a SonicR setup. We just have to wait for setups to occur. For example, the second picture shows that GU might go long off of the blue support, or short off of the red resistance, following the ADP release later this session. Current PA might be that of leg 3 of a long wave, or it might be that of leg 2 of a short wave. Look for S&R areas, and wait for a PA wave to properly trigger off of one.
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  • #25,744
  • Aug 30, 2011 11:11pm Aug 30, 2011 11:11pm
Quoting ddaytrader
I understand what you are asking, but I do not know the best way to put it into words. The easiest way for me is to wait for price to settle into a range of consolidation. I then marke of a box of support and a box of resistance. I then let the waves develop within the large range, and I enter when price breaks one of those boxes.

One thing to be aware of is that any SonicR set up you think you see forming can almost always be flipped to show a potential SOnicR in the other direction.

Price does not go sideways for ever.

It will go...

hi dd.,

But sometimes the box of support and resistance, it might break a little then go back? would that not be like a fake breakout? sorry i am still confused so probably will wait for you charts to better visualize your point.

thanks so much.
  • #25,745
  • Aug 30, 2011 11:14pm Aug 30, 2011 11:14pm
Quoting traderathome
At least two things come into play when looking for a proper PA wave setup:

1. The HLs, as in L-H-HL for a long setup and as in H-L-LH for a short setup.

2. Support and resistance, because preferably you want the PA wave to represent a passing thru of an S&R area, with a pullback and bounce to continue the move. The picture shows some ways this might happen.

Watch PA when it comes to an S&R area. There is where to look for PA waves that might lead to a SonicR setup.
hi tah

thanks, how will you be able to know this is the correct S&R area? and in your pic, you drew a lot of waves..is it possible that it could go the reverse of what the sonicR expect after a fake breakout? how to minimize that fake breakout to minimize fail trades?
  • #25,746
  • Aug 30, 2011 11:35pm Aug 30, 2011 11:35pm
Quoting shujiXakira
hi tah

thanks, how will you be able to know this is the correct S&R area? and in your pic, you drew a lot of waves..is it possible that it could go the reverse of what the sonicR expect after a fake breakout? how to minimize that fake breakout to minimize fail trades?
There is no way to predict the future from current PA. You know where S&R areas are. You wait for PA to form a proper sequence wave at a S&R area. You trade what you see on the chart. Will there be head fakes? Yes. Will some trades suddenly reverse? Yes? Can you avoid these? No.
  • #25,747
  • Aug 31, 2011 12:45am Aug 31, 2011 12:45am
tah, i tried to adjust the settings u gave but still i cant get it right. how do i adjust the frame so i can see the Rgh and Rgl on screen just like the most here... i think it has something to do with zoom out or something but i can trace which values to adjust. thanks alot
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  • #25,748
  • Aug 31, 2011 12:53am Aug 31, 2011 12:53am
Quoting traderathome
There is no way to predict the future from current PA. You know where S&R areas are. You wait for PA to form a proper sequence wave at a S&R area. You trade what you see on the chart. Will there be head fakes? Yes. Will some trades suddenly reverse? Yes? Can you avoid these? No.
i see..so the best thing to do is...draw a box of S&R..and then from that area, draw the waves? is it correct? anything i missed?
  • #25,749
  • Aug 31, 2011 2:18am Aug 31, 2011 2:18am
There is only one thing that works very well for me, and this is S/R with VSA. If you dont believe see my results in this real tournament -> http://www.dukascopy.com/traderconte...er=Belikewater

See you (doing well)
Greetings, BeLikewater
  • #25,750
  • Aug 31, 2011 2:26am Aug 31, 2011 2:26am
Quoting BeLikeWater
There is only one thing that works very well for me, and this is S/R with VSA. If you dont believe see my results in this real tournament -> http://www.dukascopy.com/traderconte...er=Belikewater

See you (doing well)

how do you do your trade sir?
  • #25,751
  • Aug 31, 2011 2:54am Aug 31, 2011 2:54am
Quoting BeLikeWater
There is only one thing that works very well for me, and this is S/R with VSA. If you dont believe see my results in this real tournament -> http://www.dukascopy.com/traderconte...er=Belikewater

See you (doing well)
this is advertisement, you are trying to make here,,,,
be aware traders ,,

aligater
born to speculate
  • #25,752
  • Aug 31, 2011 3:10am Aug 31, 2011 3:10am
after my short comes long ...

we will see - let the market decide

how funny is that ??? - ohh yes I luve the game

great entertainment here ... keep up

I´m long since 1.4402 and 1.4391

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ps sitting on the porch with my cigar
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #25,753
  • Aug 31, 2011 3:23am Aug 31, 2011 3:23am
Quoting enigma4x
after my short comes long ...

we will see - let the market decide

how funny is that ??? - ohh yes I luve the game

great entertainment here ... keep up

I´m long since 1.4402 and 1.4391

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enigma4x

ps sitting on the porch with my cigar

pls post charts on why you did that trade on those levels?
  • #25,754
  • Aug 31, 2011 3:24am Aug 31, 2011 3:24am
Quoting enigma4x
after my short comes long ...

we will see - let the market decide

how funny is that ??? - ohh yes I luve the game

great entertainment here ... keep up

I´m long since 1.4402 and 1.4391

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ps sitting on the porch with my cigar


and where is the sonicR chart??
  • #25,755
  • Edited 5:30am Aug 31, 2011 4:44am | Edited 5:30am
Fake and pull backs..

It aint pretty..

I will rather enjoy looking at girl with FAKE B...!!

http://verydemotivational.files.word...sal-appeal.jpg

No clear water till 8:15 news...

Sonic
  • #25,756
  • Aug 31, 2011 5:46am Aug 31, 2011 5:46am
the time will come for e/u trade.. meanwhile 83 pips profit from chfjpy.
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  • #25,757
  • Aug 31, 2011 5:53am Aug 31, 2011 5:53am
Hi Sonic,

I've just downloaded the SHI Channel in your earlier posts. May I ask what is the red dot that appears inside the SHI Channel? What signal does it signify?

Regards,
Evilmaster
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  • #25,758
  • Aug 31, 2011 6:05am Aug 31, 2011 6:05am
Quoting alrightfrank
tah, i tried to adjust the settings u gave but still i cant get it right. how do i adjust the frame so i can see the Rgh and Rgl on screen just like the most here... i think it has something to do with zoom out or something but i can trace which values to adjust. thanks alot
Hi alrightfrank, I'll let you know what I did... perhaps it will help you. You're right, if you zoom out, it is possible to see the lines you seek, but check the following settings in the 'SonicR Chart Panel' Indicator settings...
Part 1
"Levels_on": True
"Pivots_DPV_Lines_on": True
"Pivots_DSR_Lines_on": True
"Range_Lines_on": True
Part 4
for each line that ends in ..."_Display_Number": 4
"Display_4_Shift_Right": default is 46, try 25

then zoom the chart in, or out, to see the effect...
  • #25,759
  • Aug 31, 2011 6:10am Aug 31, 2011 6:10am
few pips love

aligater
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born to speculate
  • #25,760
  • Aug 31, 2011 6:11am Aug 31, 2011 6:11am
Quoting ott256
the time will come for e/u trade.. meanwhile 83 pips profit from chfjpy.
Good job...

my broker hasn't this exoctics pairs...
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
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