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  • #513,201
  • Aug 6, 2011 8:43pm Aug 6, 2011 8:43pm
Quoting Chicky
but goes crazy the tenth time.
See I resemble that remark, as you, my stop losses that I actually set are wide, to handle spikes, however I manually punch out at my mental stop loss, this being the hardest thing for me to do, actually punch, out funny how I have become really good at making excuses, all in all everybody has their own techniques and I wish the best to everyone. Of course I can always learn from the more successful traders, thanks for your insight....
Never been vouched
  • #513,202
  • Aug 6, 2011 8:54pm Aug 6, 2011 8:54pm
Quoting iono
See I resemble that remark, as you, my stop losses that I actually set are wide, to handle spikes, however I manually punch out at my mental stop loss, this being the hardest thing for me to do, actually punch, out funny how I have become really good at making excuses, all in all everybody has their own techniques and I wish the best to everyone. Of course I can always learn from the more successful traders, thanks for your insight....
The only way I found to avoid a spike is to buy/sell at extremes and set tp and sl equal distance apart. This way it will hit my sl if I am wrong, or if I am right, the spike should logically be less than my tp. But if anything else happens, I have equal chance.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #513,203
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:50pm Aug 6, 2011 9:50pm
Standard & Poor is run by McGraw-Hill Co. Harold McGraw III is CEO. He supports Romney. This is easier than a Scooby Doo mystery, folks.
  • #513,204
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:55pm Aug 6, 2011 9:55pm
S&P's Parent firm has spent at least $600K on lobbying this year.

http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/08/01...mpaign=twitter
  • #513,205
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:03pm Aug 6, 2011 10:03pm
After their owner's party affiliation was questioned, 'Standard & Poor' has changed their name to the more appropriate 'Fair & Balanced'.
  • #513,206
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:06pm Aug 6, 2011 10:06pm
Quoting nawafasad1
trading is something you shouldnt do cause you are shit at it and my charting is something you ll dream to have i come here before the fact to put counts and trades you ll never understand monkey
just watch and learn may be one day it ll happen
  • #513,207
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:06pm Aug 6, 2011 10:06pm
Quoting Magix
Wait a second here...
I not even going to try to dispute your simple pure logic here - you simply have tons more experience than me at the overall markets and so I would always welcome constructive criticism.

On the face of it you are absolutely right if you apply every comment to every trade and throw in a bunch of other reasonable common assumptions the perhaps cover 80% of folks in these forums

But yes there are times when circumstances suggest a useful trade of potentially over a day that might cross a move against me at a time I can't baby sit it. This is where really reliable predictive analytics helps me.
  • #513,208
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:10pm Aug 6, 2011 10:10pm
Actually the future of EURUSD is becoming more and more complicated now.
I guess EUR WILL go up at the very beginning of next week.
btw, the situation now is similar with the early stage of global crisis at 2008 to some degree, isn't it? Thus, any guess will be difficult.
  • #513,209
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:22pm Aug 6, 2011 10:22pm
"Taking Standard & Poor seriously is not something rational people ought to do"

"This is just a political judgement by a bunch of incompetents"

-Barney Frank
  • #513,210
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:28pm Aug 6, 2011 10:28pm
Quoting Khazul
I not even going to try to dispute your simple pure logic here - you simply have tons more experience than me at the overall markets and so I would always welcome constructive criticism.

On the face of it you are absolutely right if you apply every comment to every trade and throw in a bunch of other reasonable common assumptions the perhaps cover 80% of folks in these forums

But yes there are times when circumstances suggest a useful trade of potentially over a day that might cross a move against me at a time I can't baby sit it. This...
Very well stated.

It is the generalities of "let'r ride", and "no losing trades", coupled with the "several hundred pips underwater", logic that gets a lot of people in trouble as well as busts more accounts on a daily/weekly basis then mere coin tossing would probably do.

There are a lot of swing traders, and a lot of ideas behind holding and folding that go into money management, and if it seemed like I picked on ya, it is because your first 2 statements were the primo examples of really bad market habits.

Market perfection, pshhhhh...don't really need it.

A great idea of direction and money management with the ability to cut a loss is my idea of winning at this game...

Just my dos centavos...

Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #513,211
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:49pm Aug 6, 2011 10:49pm
Quoting Magix
Market perfection, pshhhhh...don't really need it.

A great idea of direction and money management with the ability to cut a loss is my idea of winning at this game...

Just my dos centavos...


OY!

Dont give it all away,
  • #513,212
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:54pm Aug 6, 2011 10:54pm
Man cant wait for the massive foshebro to do his thing and love to see some guys getting stopped out so fucking hard for some ignorance. Because there country is the greatest not anymore
  • #513,213
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:00pm Aug 6, 2011 11:00pm
Quoting ingmarforex
Man cant wait for the massive foshebro to do his thing and love to see some guys getting stopped out so fucking hard for some ignorance. Because there country is the greatest not anymore

I think people forget why US is the biggest within trading in the first place, its quite simply because they were first out with good deals and cheap brokers...

So for equities to be moved we need a country with a massive competition and possibilities so the flock of traders will look elsewhere or by restriction rules in the states off course...

Its not like a politician or Obama can say, US is not number 1 anymore and people would trade elsewhere, its a decision made by traders... That takes time to change...
  • #513,214
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:06pm Aug 6, 2011 11:06pm
Quoting Larseg
I think people forget why US is the biggest within trading in the first place, its quite simply because they were first out with good deals and cheap brokers...

So for equities to be moved we need a country with a massive competition and possibilities so the flock of traders will look elsewhere or by restriction rules in the states off course...

Its not like a politician or Obama can say, US is not number 1 anymore and people would trade elsewhere, its a decision made by traders... That takes time to change...
IMO rulles have been changed this is not the same scenario as 2008 i keep my eyes on the treasuries this week they gonna tell me where they will lead it 2
  • #513,215
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:09pm Aug 6, 2011 11:09pm
Quoting ingmarforex
IMO rulles have been changed this is not the same scenario as 2008 i keep my eyes on the treasuries this week they gonna tell me where they will lead it 2

?

I meant trading rules in general so it wouldn't benefit a trader to place trades on Nyse, SP500 or Nasdaq etc...

But yes, this is different than 2008, all the smart money is already taken out so it can be interesting...
  • #513,216
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:11pm Aug 6, 2011 11:11pm
Quoting ingmarforex
IMO rulles have been changed this is not the same scenario as 2008 i keep my eyes on the treasuries this week they gonna tell me where they will lead it 2
Tbills will def be very very telling

actually they already have been for the last few weeks.. Ill be watching the bond markets closely
  • #513,217
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:11pm Aug 6, 2011 11:11pm
Quoting Larseg
?

I meant trading rules in general so it wouldn't benefit a trader to place trades on Nyse, SP500 or Nasdaq etc...

But yes, this is different than 2008, all the smart money is already taken out so it can be interesting...

This is why its so freaking hard to trade for beginners, if you continue to follow your "old" plan all the time you will have a hard time getting that edge...

What I am saying is its time to use your shorter & medium term methods with different risk reward than you normally would have...

Thats adapting to the market...
  • #513,218
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:14pm Aug 6, 2011 11:14pm
Quoting Larseg
I think people forget why US is the biggest within trading in the first place, its quite simply because they were first out with good deals and cheap brokers...
Hehe...

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  • #513,219
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:20pm Aug 6, 2011 11:20pm
Quoting ingmarforex
Man cant wait for the massive foshebro to do his thing and love to see some guys getting stopped out so fucking hard for some ignorance. Because there country is the greatest not anymore
Nothing lasts forever. Eventually humans will be extinct. However, in our lifetimes, the United States controls more than any other country. For the most part, the US economy determines the world economy. Yes I'm proud to be American, but I'm not ignorant. Before anything else I'm human though. Therefore, I need to eat and have a home. But I also want more than that. I want nice cars, nice homes, beautiful women, etc. So I have no problem investing in something foreign if it's going to help me get what I want. I think it sounds envious when someone wants to see someone lose because they are American. Quite sad actually.
  • #513,220
  • Aug 6, 2011 11:23pm Aug 6, 2011 11:23pm
Just intercepted this with my hacky-doo-ma-hicky...

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