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  • #512,921
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:09am Aug 6, 2011 9:09am
Quoting cvds16
only 40 pip spread at Oanda (which I consider good giving all things), bought some euro's at 1.4315, it's 1.4320 offered now.
lol.... only 40 pips?
  • #512,922
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:16am Aug 6, 2011 9:16am
Quoting Walker93
thanks
its funny because the chineese are telling everyone how much money they're expecting to loose from a $ fall ha..
exactly.

now, although there is much to say about this in a sense of politics (and even morals) i'm still very curious how will the market react on Mondays (initial reaction) and then on a bit longer term. The only thing I find pretty certain is that slowing everything down and making capital more expensive should effect further industrial performance which means AUD/NZD/CAD should suffer. But then again, we get to the main thing here: it's not about everything getting riskier now, it's about what stays the safe. And since US treasuries are the one of the first answers we're again stuck on the question: in a risk off situation where should the money go if not in $? With not too many answers on the table. (at least i don't see em)
big numbers are our friends...
  • #512,923
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:19am Aug 6, 2011 9:19am
Quoting pkimnyc
lol.... only 40 pips?
just to test i placed 1 micro lot and it's executed, see market work 24/7 , and oanda user can't even sleep during weekend at my broker stop hunt happen before Friday close and Monday opening but @ oanda 24/7 lucky i don't trade with them.
Mohan
  • #512,924
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:24am Aug 6, 2011 9:24am
Quoting PayTheLimit
The question remains, which is the uglier sister, USD or EUR. Does this downgrade even mean anything? What everyone is going to dump their US treasuries monday morning? Then what, their all going to buy gold, CHF, AUD, and farmland. Will be interesting to see what kind of spin the market puts on this.
that's more likely the scenario in a logical sense....
  • #512,925
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:26am Aug 6, 2011 9:26am
Quoting gatorinla
really? you would be a 0 already without the bs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0JA...feature=relmfu
No doubt but thats not case now.
  • #512,926
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:27am Aug 6, 2011 9:27am
Quoting mohan76
just to test i placed 1 micro lot and it's executed, see market work 24/7 , and oanda user can't even sleep during weekend at my broker stop hunt happen before Friday close and Monday opening but @ oanda 24/7 lucky i don't trade with them.
placing orders doesn't mean the market is open unless you're trading martian water....

you can place orders with oanda but it gets filled in when the broker opens on sunday.
  • #512,927
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:29am Aug 6, 2011 9:29am
Quoting pkimnyc
placing orders doesn't mean the market is open unless you're trading martian water....

you can place orders with oanda but it gets filled in when the broker opens on sunday.
i show i have open trade and for macro lot i am under water ~$4 - $2.4. a

sold @ 4280 current 4278
Mohan
  • #512,928
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:31am Aug 6, 2011 9:31am
Quoting Flynchenberg
Name Last Open High Low Net chg. Chg. % Last Time
EUR/USD 1.4282 1.4282 1.4292 1.4279 -0.0001 -0.007 13:50:21

Get the f@ckin life you tw@t and stop trolling here dumb @ss

GTFO
bye bye greece

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered
  • #512,929
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:36am Aug 6, 2011 9:36am
Quoting mohan76
i show i have open trade and for macro lot i am under water ~$4 - $2.4. a

sold @ 4280 current 4278
jeez... beats me. i guess we really do have martian session....
  • #512,930
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:38am Aug 6, 2011 9:38am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
There is garbage mixed in with useful information. You have to know how to sort through it.
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House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner, a Republican from Ohio, called the downgrade "the latest consequence of the out-of-control spending that has taken place in Washington for decades."

Ohio representing... lol.

At least this guy is actually pointing his finger in the general right direction.

This country is all kinds of screwed up with it's monetary policy. I don't think we should even be in the category of 'A' at this point in time.

When I take on more debt and max out my lines of credit, my credit score goes to shat effectively making it hard or impossible to borrow more. It only seems logical that our government should be forced to follow the same rules.
  • #512,931
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:40am Aug 6, 2011 9:40am
Quoting pkimnyc
jeez... beats me. i guess we really do have martian session....
after long time i log in to oanda , i seen move in chart 2 bar in 1m chart for 9 hours. thank god i don't trade with them 25 pip spread mean kissed my sl

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Mohan
  • #512,932
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:45am Aug 6, 2011 9:45am
Quoting mohan76
after long time i log in to oanda , i seen move in chart 2 bar in 1m chart for 9 hours. thank god i don't trade with them 25 pip spread mean kissed my sl
lol. i wouldn't have that problem since i don't open trade at the market close on friday anyway.
  • #512,933
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:47am Aug 6, 2011 9:47am
Quoting Venice
Ohio representing... lol.

At least this guy is actually pointing his finger in the general right direction.

This country is all kinds of screwed up with it's monetary policy. I don't think we should even be in the category of 'A' at this point in time.

When I take on more debt and max out my lines of credit, my credit score goes to shat effectively making it hard or impossible to borrow more. It only seems logical that our government should be forced to follow the same rules.
did you mean fiscal policy dude? Also economics operates on different planes, so greater debt doesn't always make awful consequences like credit cards do so it wouldn't be logical to follow the same rules as a household. But having said that, US government does have too much debt and too little stimulus SO THEY CAN'T WIN! stinks to be a US politician hhahahaaa, either way a double-dip is on the way. Roubini and Stiglitz said it first, not me

But irrelevant of economics we must think of how the market will react, which, alas, can be very irrational indeed.
  • #512,934
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:48am Aug 6, 2011 9:48am
Quoting pkimnyc
lol. i wouldn't have that problem since i don't open trade at the market close on friday anyway.
trying to avoid that , some time i fall sleep
Mohan
  • #512,935
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:56am Aug 6, 2011 9:56am
Quoting Walker93
did you mean fiscal policy dude? Also economics operates on different planes, so greater debt doesn't always make awful consequences like credit cards do so it wouldn't be logical to follow the same rules as a household. But having said that, US government does have too much debt and too little stimulus SO THEY CAN'T WIN! stinks to be a US politician hhahahaaa, either way a double-dip is on the way. Roubini and Stiglitz said it first, not me

But irrelevant of economics we must think of how the market will react, which, alas, can be very irrational...
Yeah I did... sorry, no coffee flowing through this ol body yet

I agree that comparison to a household is a rather basic comparison, as the US government does a smidge more on it's shoulders then my house does

But... the simple fact of the matter is we are spending more then the income coming in. We need to move a few of those items off of our 'shoulders' and stop cooking the books to make it look like we are doing things when we are not.

More revenue, less spending. To jump over to the economy side, if we are to spend money, we should do it in a way that creates jobs. Dump everything else. Get rid of all the social programs that we clearly canot afford. I already know I am not going to be receiving social security by the time I retire. I'm not even paying into it anymore. Paying into a state based retirement fund (still was forced to chose between the two). It's still government but it seems to be well managed at this point in time.
  • #512,936
  • Aug 6, 2011 9:59am Aug 6, 2011 9:59am
Hi Gatorinla,
Is this not the only way you know how to do it? For everything else you would need education system with some quality. You could not make The bomb without getting Nazi scientists to US at the first place.
And yea we see how, brave you are and how good it worked in Iraq and Afghanistan. Good luck with this kind of democratie that you are bringing to the world, and that we know how it works for years already.

So don’t BS here please.

BR.

Sasa
Quoting gatorinla
what an idea.. an non floating reserve currency. so the Chinese could control what the u.s. and Europe pays for everything.. good luck with that fantasy.. maybe 50/100 years after the war. the Chinese better stock up on drinking water/coal first.(save the mt bottles for urine storage. then drinking water) we are gonna knock out the electric grid = the water plants. day 1 with unmanned missiles grid gone.... day 5, people are hungry. day 10, they start attacking army food supplies. a war and a civil war.. day 25, surrender is achieved. with peace...
  • #512,937
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:02am Aug 6, 2011 10:02am
Quoting Venice
Yeah I did... sorry, no coffee flowing through this ol body yet

I agree that comparison to a household is a rather basic comparison, as the US government does a smidge more on it's shoulders then my house does

But... the simple fact of the matter is we are spending more then the income coming in. We need to move a few of those items off of our 'shoulders' and stop cooking the books to make it look like we are doing things when we are not.

More revenue, less spending. To jump over to the economy side, if we are to spend money, we...
ha yes so the USA is in quite a predicament > one good thing i can say for Osborne is he anticipated market reactions to debt contagion and gave them what they wanted > although it will certainly slow down the recovery a great deal, at least we should avoid a downgrade. Unfortunately the necessary de-leveraging of the governments will hurt the economies a great deal.
Luckily for us traders we can make money from any market direction > I feel very sorry for the public sector workers about to loose even more jobs
  • #512,938
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:07am Aug 6, 2011 10:07am
Quoting Walker93
ha yes so the USA is in quite a predicament > one good thing i can say for Osborne is he anticipated market reactions to debt contagion and gave them what they wanted > although it will certainly slow down the recovery a great deal, at least we should avoid a downgrade. Unfortunately the necessary de-leveraging of the governments will hurt the economies a great deal.
Luckily for us traders we can make money from any market direction > I feel very sorry for the public sector workers about to loose even more jobs

Yep. It's a downward spiral that is hard to gain momentem and switch directions with.

Government can't borrow > government can't spend > government can't pay for the social safety nets (IMO the only social programs that should be active; if your able bodied you work; if you don't work, you don't eat; simples). > People who just lost their job have no carry over cash from unemployment > person stays out of the work force > money isn't paid in taxes back to the government > government earns even less.

We are when it comes down to it... assets of our government. I just hope they don't start selling us as slave labor to pay their bills; that would be epic.
  • #512,939
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:08am Aug 6, 2011 10:08am
By the way, when my fundamentals prove to be correct it would be nice to get a few vouchers so people listen a little bit to my babbles....just a little bit haha.
Although i do sound like the ranting economics professor with an fx account > i do actually make money on the babble haha
  • #512,940
  • Aug 6, 2011 10:10am Aug 6, 2011 10:10am
Quoting Venice
Yep. It's a downward spiral that is hard to gain momentem and switch directions with. I just hope they don't start selling us as slave labor to pay their bills; that would be epic.


that made me chuckle
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