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  • #512,821
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:13am Aug 6, 2011 12:13am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
I do think this is going to now render rating agencys influence in the market useless - which is probably a good thing. It already seems like no one trusts anyone anyway.
Well...its hard to trust the S&P when their investment division can short somebody/something...downgrade it...then reap the rewards. Fakked up!

Out of here...gotta sleep. Have a good one, mate.
  • #512,822
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:30am Aug 6, 2011 12:30am
If you lost money this week, this video will be awesome. If you made money this week, this video will be awesome.

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  • #512,823
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:32am Aug 6, 2011 12:32am
Quoting Purple
Yes I did, why did you asked?? Trading commodities is much easier than FX.. heck trading anything back than was much easier than how it is now..

Edit: I was shocked at how quietly Alaron went down.. when Refco went bust it was a major global news back than..
Alaron, those bastards...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #512,824
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:33am Aug 6, 2011 12:33am
Quoting sonicdeejay
If 1.423 piercing successful, 1.428x next..

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...4&d=1312551600

Sonic
it did pierced..

Sonic
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  • #512,825
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:37am Aug 6, 2011 12:37am
So I always hear that FX never closes, what are the markets doing now?
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #512,826
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:39am Aug 6, 2011 12:39am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44043776

Treasury officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said on Wednesday that top bond dealers were questioning S&P's credibility, which took a heavy blow during the 2007-09 financial crisis when mortgage-related debt lost much of its value after originally being awarded high ratings. The reputations of two other big rating agencies, Fitch and Moody's, were also tarnished.
I really gotta go to sleep, but fak...

CNBC! Blah. Its funny. US mortgage-related debt goes to shite? Agencies fault! Nuke their way through Europe...helping blow out PIIGS' rates...nothing wrong with that! Downgrade US? Feckin agencies are a sham! Oh the games!

Night, night...sleep tight.

Bastards!
  • #512,827
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:39am Aug 6, 2011 12:39am
Despite all these issues surrounding S&P relevance etc, surely there must be some risk premium to be priced into the market on sunday/monday?
And therefore a shift in the dollars value? Or will the banks seriously ignore anything s&p says? I'm by no means talking about a selloff in treasuries but the price mechanism would lead to a risk premium of some kind being priced in?

Has anyone got any views on this. (I say views but of course I really mean market experience in similar incidences in the past)

Was surprised when I got the call & heard the news
  • #512,828
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:41am Aug 6, 2011 12:41am
Quoting PayTheLimit
So I always hear that FX never closes, what are the markets doing now?
Not much. Spread would eat you alive! Bastards!

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  • #512,829
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:44am Aug 6, 2011 12:44am
Quoting Walker93
(I say views but of course I really mean market experience in similar incidences in the past)
Never happened to the US...so I don't know what first hand experience you'll find.

We'll all be guinea-pigs.
  • #512,830
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:47am Aug 6, 2011 12:47am
only 40 pip spread at Oanda (which I consider good giving all things), bought some euro's at 1.4315, it's 1.4320 offered now.
  • #512,831
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:51am Aug 6, 2011 12:51am
Quoting kenfen69
Never happened to the US...so I don't know what first hand experience you'll find.

We'll all be guinea-pigs.
I know that - I was talking about other sovereign downgrades from AAA > not the US
  • #512,832
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:51am Aug 6, 2011 12:51am
Quoting kenfen69
I really gotta go to sleep, but fak...

CNBC! Blah. Its funny. US mortgage-related debt goes to shite? Agencies fault! Nuke their way through Europe...helping blow out PIIGS' rates...nothing wrong with that! Downgrade US? Feckin agencies are a sham! Oh the games!

Night, night...sleep tight.

Bastards!
dumb people actually believe cnbc. I know its crazy. i remember james altucher calling for dow 20k on a show.....hilarious
  • #512,833
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:52am Aug 6, 2011 12:52am
Quoting PayTheLimit
So I always hear that FX never closes, what are the markets doing now?
http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/
  • #512,834
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:53am Aug 6, 2011 12:53am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/
S&P downgraded USA from AAA
  • #512,835
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:56am Aug 6, 2011 12:56am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/

wonder how far equities will gap down. probably -150 to make a decent gap for sunday risk bounce negative
  • #512,836
  • Aug 6, 2011 12:56am Aug 6, 2011 12:56am
Quoting mfoste1
dumb people actually believe cnbc. I know its crazy. i remember james altucher calling for dow 20k on a show.....hilarious
There is garbage mixed in with useful information. You have to know how to sort through it.
  • #512,837
  • Aug 6, 2011 1:02am Aug 6, 2011 1:02am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/
thanks, doesn't look to busy now, I'll check back later...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #512,838
  • Aug 6, 2011 1:06am Aug 6, 2011 1:06am
Quoting PayTheLimit
thanks, doesn't look to busy now, I'll check back later...
Yea that one seems like it hasn't been updating. Check here...

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=USD&view=1D
  • #512,839
  • Aug 6, 2011 1:09am Aug 6, 2011 1:09am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Yea that one seems like it hasn't been updating. Check here...

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=USD&view=1D
thanks again, same deal, kinda dead...guess I better wait till Wellington opens.....enjoy the weekend..
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #512,840
  • Aug 6, 2011 1:13am Aug 6, 2011 1:13am
Quoting PayTheLimit
thanks again, same deal, kinda dead...guess I better wait till Wellington opens.....enjoy the weekend..
Thanks, you too.
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