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  • #503,301
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:47am Jul 29, 2011 3:47am
Quoting PayTheLimit
intraday chart...a close below 74/76 would/could open some more downside...
Lol what are the god damn coincidence its at 1.4275 Mid-Psych Point...
i have never seen a mid-psych so god damn annoying... like a back stabbing bitch...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #503,302
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:48am Jul 29, 2011 3:48am
Good discussion re stops etc.. Very interesting to hear how different everyone can approach it and still win (hopefully!) Best compromise is probably to lower positions and increase stop. I usually only have it around 30 and move to BE when its moved that much in my favour which is all fine when we have some good momentum but otherwise you can just as easily get fucked in the ass especially the way things are now. Nothing worse than picking direction right and having your shit fucked up by spikes. Sorry i seem to swear much more after beer o'clock!!
  • #503,303
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:48am Jul 29, 2011 3:48am
Quoting bguguen
lol the actual discussion is if it falls... will we be able to close today at 1.42... not 1.4250....
Sure, but it didn't fall yet ... Even looking more and more like it won't fall. So keeping my sl tight ...
  • #503,304
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:48am Jul 29, 2011 3:48am
Quoting jayjb
i don't know, the h4 chart says the 1.45xx top has reached a bearish divergence while in the past 24 hours, the h1 has shown a bearish divergence too while 30min shows something of a bearish gartley.. i feel that it will break

it might take a while to break, or a little news data
I hope your right!

Do you have Gartley for MT4? Or what platform do you use?
  • #503,305
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:48am Jul 29, 2011 3:48am
Quoting ukdaytrader
4280 was always going to be a tough nut to crack tbh. Represents some quite important support.

I am looking for a clean break of 4250 for the next leg. Patience.....
break and 4250 is yours but if we do break i dont think 4250 should stay being the focus... my focus would turn to if today can close at/below 4200 cuz if it does it opens up whole new level for next week...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #503,306
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:49am Jul 29, 2011 3:49am
This is getting annoying. Can't even get a honest scalp going before the whipsaw kills it.
We're all stories in the end. Just try to make it a good one.
  • #503,307
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:49am Jul 29, 2011 3:49am
Quoting PayTheLimit
I dont understand that...
When you make a deal, your broker may hedge against or not your position.
The delay for me comes when they open opposite trade (hedge) to mine.

They always will try to benefit from your trade and how depends on what asset classes you trade.

I have had different results with different brokers. Some have really fast execution and some have few seconds delay when opening trade.

So only way to win against these with slow execution (if scalping) is to open a trade at extreme points in short timeframe but still when it has not turned yet. Of course there may be continuation and then have to hedge position.
Kind of have to know where sellers/buyers are for sure. Because if trading is fast, that delay will result to requotes (expensive brokers dont have them) and ruins it.
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #503,308
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:49am Jul 29, 2011 3:49am
Quoting Jazznos
Motherf%cker... Now this thing is going to where my short targets were this morning before being stopped out at BE. I swear to god this thing is getting PERSONAL!!!!
Jazznos - You really need to shut your workstation down and take a walk. You're making the biggest mistake a trader can make -- you're letting things get personal. That is a sure way to wipe out your account. Go take a walk. Enjoy the weekend and come back again to it after you've studied your trades and figured out what you're doing wrong. The market isn't going anywhere. It'll be here when you're ready to have at it again...
  • #503,309
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:50am Jul 29, 2011 3:50am
Quoting PayTheLimit
intraday chart...a close below 74/76 would/could open some more downside...
PTL

if you draw two lines

last 2 highs & last 2 lows dosnt gives you Descending Triangle ????
  • #503,310
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:50am Jul 29, 2011 3:50am
Quoting PayTheLimit
those bastards are buying everything...watching 88/93 on the hour, would rather we close below it...
again..
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #503,311
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:51am Jul 29, 2011 3:51am
Quoting amasat
PTL

if you draw two lines

last 2 highs & last 2 lows dosnt gives you Descending Triangle ????
good question, never drew a triangle in my life, sorry...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #503,312
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:52am Jul 29, 2011 3:52am
Quoting Z3iz3i
When you make a deal, your broker may hedge against or not your position.
The delay for me comes when they open opposite trade (hedge) to mine.

They always will try to benefit from your trade and how depends on what asset classes you trade.

I have had different results with different brokers. Some have really fast execution and some have few seconds delay when opening trade.

So only way to win against these with slow execution (if scalping) is to open a trade at extreme points in short timeframe but still when it has not turned yet. Of course...
what type of time frames are you trading off of? and do you ever trade futures?
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #503,313
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:53am Jul 29, 2011 3:53am
  • #503,314
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:53am Jul 29, 2011 3:53am
Quoting Z3iz3i
When you make a deal, your broker may hedge against or not your position.
The delay for me comes when they open opposite trade (hedge) to mine.

They always will try to benefit from your trade and how depends on what asset classes you trade.

I have had different results with different brokers. Some have really fast execution and some have few seconds delay when opening trade.

So only way to win against these with slow execution (if scalping) is to open a trade at extreme points in short timeframe but still when it has not turned yet. Of...
Friday must be the day for interesting toughts ... again interesting. I knew about the countertrading, but your technique needs some more thinking from my side to understand.
  • #503,315
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:53am Jul 29, 2011 3:53am
Quoting Scalpaholic
I hope your right!

Do you have Gartley for MT4? Or what platform do you use?
Yea, i'm using the ZUP harmonic pattern for MT4
  • #503,316
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:54am Jul 29, 2011 3:54am
And the same advice to the rest of you currently experiencing problems. Getting whipsawed, etc. If you can't trade it just stop. There's no shame in NOT making trades. Sometimes the market is just plain untradeable. Realize that, take a break and stop whining about it, as if the market cares.
  • #503,317
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:56am Jul 29, 2011 3:56am
[quote=Turhovach;4820657]And the same advice to the rest of you currently experiencing problems. Getting whipsawed, etc. If you can't trade it just stop. There's no shame in NOT making trades. Sometimes the market is just plain untradeable. Realize that, take a break and stop whining about it, as if the market cares

Indeed ...
  • #503,318
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:56am Jul 29, 2011 3:56am
anyway, once my 40pips, that's the end of my scalps until the US open.. let's hope i bag $100 tonight, gotta get me a end of year holiday somewhere
  • #503,319
  • Jul 29, 2011 3:59am Jul 29, 2011 3:59am
Fellas if you think the movement in EURUSD is scary and boring... Watch friggin USDCHF in H4 chart... im holding longs aiming to tp at around 0.8150 tokyo gap... which im expecting this weekend gap to be filled... sooner or later.... but the wait is just annoying...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #503,320
  • Jul 29, 2011 4:01am Jul 29, 2011 4:01am
short-term and long-term trend will be downward. So the more I try to log in sell orders

Break 1.4250 >>> Next Targets : 1.4190 . 1.4100
Break 1.4370 >>> Next Target : 1.4440 . 14500
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