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  • #486,741
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:41am Jul 12, 2011 4:41am
Quoting PayTheLimit
got lucky and sold some 61's...sl's tight, dont know what I'll play for, would like 17...well see how the hour closes...

sl to the highs, play for 21...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #486,742
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:43am Jul 12, 2011 4:43am
Quoting Larseg
1.5000 before 2.5000 !!!!!!!
No, no, no, it's gonna go to 0.50 first then 1.50, then 2.50 and then either 0.5 again or 5.50 (gonna flip a coin when we get there).
The little green ppl told me, so start betting it.
  • #486,743
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:43am Jul 12, 2011 4:43am
Quoting johncen
same here..I have 73....
yes and bigger resistance further up...very tricky these bastards today...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #486,744
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:44am Jul 12, 2011 4:44am
those who'd buy euro, better watch, that sharp move is only a noise, and its not the real trend.... everything is going to fall against USD, specially euro. buying euro now has no power, we are on the bear market.
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  • #486,745
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:44am Jul 12, 2011 4:44am
eurusd short entry 1.3958
  • #486,746
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:46am Jul 12, 2011 4:46am
Quoting pipdude
eurusd short entry 1.3958
nice
Anything can happen.
  • #486,747
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:46am Jul 12, 2011 4:46am
Quoting sintelion
No, no, no, it's gonna go to 0.50 first then 1.50, then 2.50 and then either 0.5 again or 5.50 (gonna flip a coin when we get there).
The little green ppl told me, so start betting it.

deal.
  • #486,748
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:47am Jul 12, 2011 4:47am
Quoting sintelion
I am analysing 1h/4h/1d charts, trading 1h, not aiming for smaller timeframes, and not calling tops/bottoms either. I'm usually waiting for a confirmed move and picking a proper entry TA based.

The thing is, since I am still a fairly "new" trader, I am trying to take the "safer" trades with confirmed direction and some decent r:r ratio, at least until I get better with "reading" the market and the FA. And selling a 500 pip no-retrace drop against a 3 month low just doesn't fit in that cathegory.

Judging those kind of moves takes much better...
Well it will be extremely hard to learn a lot (except for some useful technicalities and tips) from anybody when they are taking fast intraday moves. There is no way you can follow anybody (and neither they will share with you their edge) because in small TFs the edge is in where to react and not in how to react.

Most of the newcomers, cheerleaders or honest small trader who want to get something from FF get most of time stuck in the how to pull the trigger. You can see when Cloggie is posting for example, 7 or 10 pages of posters asking completely useless micro question or the 1000s posts asking for xxx indicator in MT4 ,etc, etc when in reality the key is where and when they are looking for triggers.

So if you want to get something more useful, I would recommend to focus on longer TFs (not to trade necessarily) but to understand the market dynamics and translate those principles (when and where) to your Timeframe (whatever it is).

My 2 cents, pay more attention here to their macro TA views and trades and not to the micro, super fast 20 pips scalp because the money is there and not in that super ultra fast trigger.

You may learn a lot more from Gator, ptl, panthi, cloggie and bunch others but most around here can't see the forest for the trees....

GL

sisse
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  • #486,749
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:47am Jul 12, 2011 4:47am
Quoting bdsilvano
those who'd buy euro, better watch, that sharp move is only a noise, and its not the real trend.... everything is going to fall against USD, specially euro. buying euro now has no power, we are on the bear market.
What about move in bond market of italy...

yields have come off...from 4.81 to 4.32 which is bullish for euro...
  • #486,750
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:48am Jul 12, 2011 4:48am
Quoting ultra_knight
3850 is also the target of triangular breakout... So technically also its a very strong support for EURO..

When you see such sharp reversal... never fight market...
Agreed. Why fight market, better CASH IN TODAY
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  • #486,751
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:49am Jul 12, 2011 4:49am
Quoting PayTheLimit
sl to the highs, play for 21...

flat again...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #486,752
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:52am Jul 12, 2011 4:52am
Quoting ultra_knight
What about move in bond market of italy...

yields have come off...from 4.81 to 4.32 which is bullish for euro...
Always wonder about those stupid bull. Why you do not have patience wait when the market will turn 180 degrees???

ITALY: The results are in for its auction this morning and they arent good, higher yield - 3.67% vs 2.14% prev. - and lower bid-to-cover.
Once scalper always scalper
  • #486,753
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:56am Jul 12, 2011 4:56am
something for the scalpers.... hidden bear. div. , we expect that the previous support/consolidation area turned into resistance one... easy sell,stops above box.

good for 25-40 pips.

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  • #486,754
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:57am Jul 12, 2011 4:57am
Quoting ultra_knight
What about move in bond market of italy...

yields have come off...from 4.81 to 4.32 which is bullish for euro...
frankly its nothing, euro is falling. so much trouble on that currency. before move is just bigy boys looking for best entry to sell not to buy.............
There is Time for Bull, and Time for Bear. and so be the Wolf.
  • #486,755
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:58am Jul 12, 2011 4:58am
flat.............out for a while ..come bak later
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
  • #486,756
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:58am Jul 12, 2011 4:58am
also watching 90/93 below now...
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  • #486,757
  • Jul 12, 2011 4:59am Jul 12, 2011 4:59am
Quoting sisse
Well it will be extremely hard to learn a lot (except for some useful technicalities and tips) from anybody when they are taking fast intraday moves. There is no way you can follow anybody (and neither they will share with you their edge) because in small TFs the edge is in where to react and not in how to react.

Most of the newcomers, cheerleaders or honest small trader who want to get something from FF get most of time stuck in the how to pull the trigger. You can see when Cloggie is posting for example, 7 or 10 pages of posters asking completely...
Stellar advice Sisse. I've had success trading the larger TF's live, while still demo'ing and working on my smaller TF strategy... Trading the larger TF's also enables us to get rid of a lot of the noise on the lower TF's.
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  • #486,758
  • Jul 12, 2011 5:00am Jul 12, 2011 5:00am
Quoting pipdude
eurusd short entry 1.3958
yeah load the squeeze ;-)
  • #486,759
  • Jul 12, 2011 5:02am Jul 12, 2011 5:02am
Be careful with shorts as this green H4 H1 candles will seduce many speculators to cover their shorts...
  • #486,760
  • Jul 12, 2011 5:02am Jul 12, 2011 5:02am
Quoting PhAnTi'
agree.

Sisse, what are you looking for at the daily frame to have a confirmation of downtrend ? ( to aim for 34xx etc.)

Jonas
Confirmed LH and LL.

Using the same chart in our previous discussion I zoomed in and marked in the chart the points...

sisse
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