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  • #484,641
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:05pm Jul 8, 2011 12:05pm
Quoting sisse

"You scratch my back today, I'll scratch yours tomorrow...." what can you do if one side fails the other will follow so

sisse

lots of scratching going on, if you ask me......
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #484,642
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:05pm Jul 8, 2011 12:05pm
Quoting sisse
Lol Gator ...don't forget it worked both ways in the times of Lehman and AIG....

"You scratch my back today, I'll scratch yours tomorrow...." what can you do if one side fails the other will follow so

sisse
nope.... the name on the door changes... a new name buys out the loser.. the investor losses and the world still turns.. the new name will buy the assets for a reduced price. the big investors told the poppets what to do and they did. meanwhile inventing a bs crash story.. the only crash would of been the banks. and a new one would of picked up the pieces. aig should have gone bankrupt.. goldmen ect..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #484,643
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:07pm Jul 8, 2011 12:07pm
Quoting gatorinla
nope.... the name on the door changes... a new name buys out the loser.. the investor losses and the world still turns.. the new name will buy the assets for a reduced price. the big investors told the poppets what to do and they did. meanwhile inventing a bs crash story.. the only crash would of been the banks. and a new one would of picked up the pieces. aig should have gone bankrupt.. goldmen ect..
Agree gator....what do you think about this article...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mik...ly-keep-lights

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #484,644
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:09pm Jul 8, 2011 12:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
nope.... the name on the door changes... a new name buys out the loser.. the investor losses and the world still turns.. the new name will buy the assets for a reduced price. the big investors told the poppets what to do and they did. meanwhile inventing a bs crash story.. the only crash would of been the banks. and a new one would of picked up the pieces. aig should have gone bankrupt.. goldmen ect..
AIG was all about Goldman....and a bunch others im sure...but yet AIG gets bailed out ...Goldman picks up check,,,,,then picks up another in tarp....BS...meanwhile 0% at the discount window....free $....u gotta be dead to not turn a profit with those kinda favors
  • #484,645
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:09pm Jul 8, 2011 12:09pm
Quoting bidie
------------

-The U.S. dollar comprises 75% of the outstanding currency in the world-
-They spend 50% of the world's military budget each year-
-You have to buy commodities in U.S. dollars

What part of 'We can do whatever we want with the dollar is so hard to understand?????
Everything is perfecly clear with that here.
Witch is why USA will never default.
LOL

Seb
  • #484,646
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:11pm Jul 8, 2011 12:11pm
Quoting sisse
I see your point and make for a long discussion of the EU/EZ. In any case, just my 2 cents, don't let (I am sure u don't) your political bias rule your trading decisions, as finance and economics are a lot more irrational than we think....good luck managing those shorts.

sisse
well,
It will be hard...
I'm trying anyway....

Green pips,
Seb
  • #484,647
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:15pm Jul 8, 2011 12:15pm
Quoting mercy seat
It is ...

Mkt is dead ...

Guten Hunger ... enjoy your meal!



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Yep, market is dead. no fun in trading now. im happy with my 100+ pips for today Finished the dinner

but i still have to figure out how to spend my rest of the night as i've not even saved any unseen movies in my pc
Hope
  • #484,648
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:16pm Jul 8, 2011 12:16pm
Quoting sisse
Agree gator....what do you think about this article...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mik...ly-keep-lights

sisse
greespan is a fool that caused most of it. brooksly borns warned him about it and they hushed her in Congressional hearings.. goldmen ceo later treasure secretary paulson was in the gang with a greenspan and others to discredit her. she was right... and this wasn't the first the banks crashed post ww2. it happened during the first bush.. and it came close to a 2008 type crash later... 2008 wasn't the first or second time.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #484,649
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:17pm Jul 8, 2011 12:17pm
later
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #484,650
  • Edited 12:37pm Jul 8, 2011 12:25pm | Edited 12:37pm
Gator,

Is there something I can read to help me understand your levels and PA....I mean I should understand this but when you say....if we poke 4229 then PA leads us to 4194.....how do you determine this?

Instead of bugging you I have been bugging, Cloggie, Attila, Sissie and some others .....you guys all know levels and can plot numbers and PA reacts to them....all I know is S and R....these levels can be viewed on Longer Term Frames and then you have pivot points (s/r) and Fibs...

It is mind boggling how you guys figure this out or at least have a plan....what makes you believe if it goes to 4229 that it would go to 4194?

The only thin I can see if PA attempted to break 4229 and failed and is caught in a 30 or so pip range....so if it break 4229 then it would drop close to 30 pips which would put price there....but not sure if that's how you figure it....

Thanks
  • #484,651
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:27pm Jul 8, 2011 12:27pm
Quoting TheGamer
Yep, market is dead. no fun in trading now. im happy with my 100+ pips for today Finished the dinner

but i still have to figure out how to spend my rest of the night as i've not even saved any unseen movies in my pc
Has not been bad my estimations for the rest of the day ... that I wrote to you ... aren't they ?



And that is another important point ...

Always try to get a more precise picture of what are realistic developments after a major move has been done ...

And at which time they are more likely to prevail ...

Risk to time ratio must be well balanced too ...



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2013-07-31 Today's Phrase of the Day: Hold off from any recycle bin experts
  • #484,652
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:28pm Jul 8, 2011 12:28pm
Its all a scam. The euro's crap, the dollar is going worthless. Gold is a hot air balloon. The Nasdaq is a house of cards. Banks are made of paper. I am going to buy a farm, a shotgun, and disconnet my internet for ever. Have a good weekend, PTL...
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #484,653
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:28pm Jul 8, 2011 12:28pm
trying to stay up or even a false break upside to make a suspense without smooth leg down & start profit taking. anyway waiting weekly close level to close all & long for weekend.not want this short to keep weekend.
fontu
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  • #484,654
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:29pm Jul 8, 2011 12:29pm
And these closes egkid and fontu talk about....I have a daily candle close yesterday of 4360 so I am not sure how fontu got 4242 or how egkid wants a close below 4236....why?

Thanks
  • #484,655
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:31pm Jul 8, 2011 12:31pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
Its all a scam. The euro's crap, the dollar is going worthless. Gold is a hot air balloon. The Nasdaq is a house of cards. Banks are made of paper. I am going to buy a farm, a shotgun, and disconnet my internet for ever. Have a good weekend, PTL...
lolololololo
  • #484,656
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:32pm Jul 8, 2011 12:32pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
Its all a scam. The euro's crap, the dollar is going worthless. Gold is a hot air balloon. The Nasdaq is a house of cards. Banks are made of paper. I am going to buy a farm, a shotgun, and disconnet my internet for ever. Have a good weekend, PTL...

Have a good weekend too... same to you gator...

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #484,657
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:34pm Jul 8, 2011 12:34pm
Anyone in NZD/usd trade looking for opinions on the pair?
  • #484,658
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:41pm Jul 8, 2011 12:41pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
Its all a scam. The euro's crap, the dollar is going worthless. Gold is a hot air balloon. The Nasdaq is a house of cards. Banks are made of paper. I am going to buy a farm, a shotgun, and disconnet my internet for ever. Have a good weekend, PTL...
Yes ... only diamonds have a true and fair value ...

Gold is trash ...

Has ever been trash ...

My grandma dealt with diamonds ...

And my father did make some jobs for her too in that branch ...

So no doubt ... in case you want to have some security against all this here ...

Diamonds are best ...



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  • #484,659
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:42pm Jul 8, 2011 12:42pm
Quoting IMARICH1
And these closes egkid and fontu talk about....I have a daily candle close yesterday of 4360 so I am not sure how fontu got 4242 or how egkid wants a close below 4236....why?

Thanks
Sorry , levels are approximately , may not be that accurate as from higher tf & not connect to the exact numbers . not any relation with previous or many such closes rather few weeks or months taken as tl close & low .posted my chart about it before in my post . one still there .
yellow for daily close , red weekly closes , deep yellow both weekly & daily lows.
thanks ,
fontu
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  • #484,660
  • Jul 8, 2011 12:44pm Jul 8, 2011 12:44pm
Quoting gatorinla
later
You may be gone right now, and I'm in a bit of a hurry, but have to say: you think like an old Huey Long (Dem.) / Bob La Follette (Repub.) progressive. And in spite of a career in the Belly of the Beast, I gotta admit, that's my kind of politics.

The old saying is "the difference between the Democrats and Republicans is that the Dems don't have a brain, but the Repubs don't have a heart." The progressives, avoiding both the corporate/banking teat and the entrenched, Limousine Liberal left, hit it straight down the middle and the US would be better for it, if it were only possible.

The only revenge, of course, is the globalization that was supposed to raise all boats in the rising tide is dropping the level everywhere since there wasn't enough liquid(ity) to start with, and what little foundation had been left washed out to sea.

Right here is the place where the revaluations are defined in a way that the smart and honest, insider or outsider, can benefit.

Good weekend, all.
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