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  • #482,521
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:55am Jul 7, 2011 4:55am
Quoting cloggie
IF 82 helps out.
well lets get on with it then....good grief..
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  • #482,522
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:56am Jul 7, 2011 4:56am
I'm gonna only watch Eur/usd today.We'll se whats gonna happend.
  • #482,523
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:56am Jul 7, 2011 4:56am
Quoting DarkWolF
BE entered
Closed +22 pips
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  • #482,524
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:56am Jul 7, 2011 4:56am
Quoting PayTheLimit
well lets get on with it then....good grief..

Small bump here at 91.7
  • #482,525
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:56am Jul 7, 2011 4:56am
Quoting sisse
NP, is always good to have decent exchange of views especially with markets sleeping before the storm.

IMO, the name of the game is politics now. IMO. the whole debt ceiling deadline is BS. Election year down the road and I don't see a single chance for a "technical default" or for the Obama administration to deal with the real issues. It's just political BS and circus (from both parties).

The US economy is still by far the most important and the biggest in the world. They haven't lost any of the ingredients to be on top (in economic terms)...
I'm pickin' up what you're laying down... agree. I'm not sure what the spark could be that would create the up cycle, whether it's cutting the ridiculously high corporate tax rate or what... In every recession/depression we've had, the development of long-lived assets (housing industry) has typically lead the way out, yet as that portion of the market has been "taken behind the wood-shed", I'm not sure where the spark could come from...
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
  • #482,526
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:57am Jul 7, 2011 4:57am
I also have 66.5 down that way...think gator was looking for 66, dont know if his is still in play..
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  • #482,527
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:57am Jul 7, 2011 4:57am
we will go to 1.4370 then we will go dwon to 1.4250 today >> i think
  • #482,528
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:57am Jul 7, 2011 4:57am
Quoting Stretch
What if Greece defaults, what happens with all those loans they got? Do they have to pay them back eventually in the future, or can the countries that invested in that bailout jackpot, forget about it and that it just vanishes?
Is not the first time it happens in the world. Check Latin America and you can write and encyclopedia on debt.

Check the Brady plan for details on what will happen with the banks holding debt. For the private holders, well they will loss all but that the bet, they are buying at bargain price (buying low like in any other instrument) and the payoff is huge so they are taking the risk....

sisse
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #482,529
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:57am Jul 7, 2011 4:57am
Quoting Capn79
I'm pickin' up what you're laying down... agree. I'm not sure what the spark could be that would create the up cycle, whether it's cutting the ridiculously high corporate tax rate or what... In every recession/depression we've had, the development of long-lived assets (housing industry) has typically lead the way out, yet as that portion of the market has been "taken behind the wood-shed", I'm not sure where the spark could come from...

Well for starters, you can't have a jobless recovery, that would be the biggest trigger in this downturn right now.
  • #482,530
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:58am Jul 7, 2011 4:58am
Quoting cloggie
Small bump here at 91.7

  • #482,531
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:58am Jul 7, 2011 4:58am
Today Move will B.....
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  • #482,532
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:59am Jul 7, 2011 4:59am
Quoting cloggie
Small bump here at 91.7

damn important support down this way, would be surprised if it goes, but feck it, its worth a stretch, I have good edge on these cars...
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  • #482,533
  • Jul 7, 2011 4:59am Jul 7, 2011 4:59am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
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  • #482,534
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:00am Jul 7, 2011 5:00am
Quoting sisse
Is not the first time it happens in the world. Check Latin America and you can write and encyclopedia on debt.

Check the Brady plan for details on what will happen with the banks holding debt. For the private holders, well they will loss all but that the bet, they are buying at bargain price (buying low like in any other instrument) and the payoff is huge so they are taking the risk....

sisse
Thank you for your reply!
Yes I heard about argentina that had the same, (on bigger scale) and they stopped paying the debt and interest. And it made them even better economically.

But in this case you are talking about private holders etc. What about governments, they loose the taxpayers money. Is this also taking the risk?
  • #482,535
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:04am Jul 7, 2011 5:04am
Quoting PayTheLimit
damn important support down this way, would be surprised if it goes, but feck it, its worth a stretch, I have good edge on these cars...
damn this orange, lowering my sl's again...
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  • #482,536
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:04am Jul 7, 2011 5:04am
Building a bigger bump
  • #482,537
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:07am Jul 7, 2011 5:07am
Quoting cloggie
Well for starters, you can't have a jobless recovery, that would be the biggest trigger in this downturn right now.
Of course, but what is the trigger/spark that would stimulate job creation? It could be a myriad of things (like dropping the corporate tax rate for the long-term), but the mood for hiring is extremely tentative due to limited confidence in future tax policy, over-reaching gov't, inflation fears, etc... What are possible catalysts for stronger job creation?
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
  • #482,538
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:07am Jul 7, 2011 5:07am
BTW PtL, that trade we talked about last night, only got me peanuts and it took me hours.
  • #482,539
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:08am Jul 7, 2011 5:08am
Quoting PayTheLimit
damn this orange, lowering my sl's again...
this is red,isnt it?
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
  • #482,540
  • Jul 7, 2011 5:08am Jul 7, 2011 5:08am
Quoting Capn79
What are possible catalysts for stronger job creation?
Democrats out. That'll do it.
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