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  • #477,501
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:18pm Jun 30, 2011 9:18pm
Quoting cloggie
Do this long enough and you will get close.

Called the top to the pip exactly last night, the bottom within 2 pips earlier today and tonights top within 10

ya ya...and when I did that the other night....you said I was a rent boy.......

I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,502
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:19pm Jun 30, 2011 9:19pm
Let me TRY to contradict you here. Cloggie sent me a PM yesterday afternoon stating his target was 4520. You can choose to believe me or not. It is not going to make a difference.

On a second note, I did slam cloggie at first (people here can attest to that) for the way he's treating some, but I came to realize he knows what he's talking about. Besides, he was also right is poking on "muppets".

Quoting Faller
Don't even try to figure it out.........he is like the smell in my left shoe.....you wish it would just go away but the stink just lingers around........his levels are after the fact......

You have to find your own thing that works for you when trading......everyone has their own way of looking at charts.....some people look at the chart after it happened and post what really happened.......

The only person here that actually posts level.....posts entries and posts LOSSES is Gator......watch for his posts.......

Cheers.

Faller.
  • #477,503
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:20pm Jun 30, 2011 9:20pm
Quoting cloggie
They were not from your chart. Start of with a line chart, zoom the bugger out as far as she goes, toggle between the TF's you got on MT4, which are crap BTW, and see what you can find. Find every historical rejection of 53, coming of a retrace and see what happened the last time, find the triggers that confirmed the moves and see how they respond this time. Then classify them as to major and minors and keep them to the side of your keyboard. You should find 53 as a major and the same with 26 here.
sometimes you actually sound intelligent......nice to see.

Cheers.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,504
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:22pm Jun 30, 2011 9:22pm
Quoting cloggie
Being an emotionless bastard of a trader is something that will come with time, 2 years is only scratching the surface. The thing with larger accounts is that you will actually not risk as often on could be trades as it took you either a long time to get to that balance or you had to sacrifice a lot in life to start of with that balance. I generally only trade the very high probable trades, the ones that are very unlikely to fail. If you have seen my trading for long enough you will notice I always ignore the first few pips and only get in when...

again....perfect insight....thanks for the well written post.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,505
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:23pm Jun 30, 2011 9:23pm
Quoting Faller
enough said......4 out of 6 indicate what you are.....
A crowd pleaser?

Another guy that has hammered your wife?
(which incidentally, tell her I said "Hi")

Better than you?

Have a sense of humor?

Really dude...is this the best you got?

Laaaaaaahuuuuuuuuuuuuuusssssssssssheeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrr!
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #477,506
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:25pm Jun 30, 2011 9:25pm
Quoting cloggie
No you got that wrong, I just read the same chart as you. I have just learned to read what I need to read. Anyone can do that, with some serious time and dedication. This is not rocketscience, I keep saying that over and over again.

We are all looking at the same data, I just know how to read it. If I can do that, anyone can.

again.....thank you....and not one muppet or idiot comment........Cloggie your posts today impressed me......
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,507
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:26pm Jun 30, 2011 9:26pm
Quoting Faller
again.....thank you....and not one muppet or idiot comment........Cloggie your posts today impressed me......
So...now that you are taking the time to go threw the thread and comment on Brother Clogs...

How was your day, flipping burgers?
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #477,508
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:27pm Jun 30, 2011 9:27pm
Attila well said!

You and Cloggie were doing a great job helping...I bother gator too much...I have so much knowledge on how to trade and so many things that make so much sense but I have not found the right formula....

I can do Pitchforks, Guppy Trading, Fibs and Fib projections off the 80 MA....but I still fail...and its my fault....I don;t trust my signals and then I enter late and chase a trade knowing I was suppose to be in it...then it knocks me out.....

I am lucky to see of you on here trade and am trying to tweak it to my style which is what Cloggie was trying to do.....

Thanks for those of you here trying to make a difference in us who fail!
  • #477,509
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:27pm Jun 30, 2011 9:27pm
Quoting attila
The only problem I have with supply/demand technique is it pushes you into a lot of counter trades. I use it more the other way... To not short into demand and not buy into supply.

edit: you can't use it alone. you have to correlate it with other things
Supply & Demand definitely creates that issue... but, as long as you know you are doing it... not a problem.

I find it works wonderfully for TP's as well. They tend to be at least some type of decision point, whether it be continuation or reversal.
  • #477,510
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm
Quoting Venice
Supply & Demand definitely creates that issue... but, as long as you know you are doing it... not a problem.

I find it works wonderfully for TP's as well. They tend to be at least some type of decision point, whether it be continuation or reversal.
And there is where having a little handle on VSA can help...

But agreed on the idea of targets for profit, not assuming reversals...
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #477,511
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm
Quoting Venice
Supply & Demand definitely creates that issue... but, as long as you know you are doing it... not a problem.

I find it works wonderfully for TP's as well. They tend to be at least some type of decision point, whether it be continuation or reversal.
yes, it is not the end of it all. red himself uses TLs, divergences, pairs correlation, etc.
  • #477,512
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm
Quoting Magix
So...now that you are taking the time to go threw the thread and comment on Brother Clogs...

How was your day, flipping burgers?

the sun was out the sky was blue and there is nothing here to spoil the view.........

I was long till the transition period at noon hour today.....took profit and went short at 2pm......came home after a dinner out with the family to see the profits.....going to let this roll and carry over the weekend......

thanks for asking
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,513
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm Jun 30, 2011 9:30pm
By the way ...I took a LONG @ 4466 after we closed above 4466 and was at the LOWER TREND LINE on my 30M Pitchfork that has been validated at least 3 times on a downturn......
  • #477,514
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:33pm Jun 30, 2011 9:33pm
Quoting Magix
So...now that you are taking the time to go threw the thread and comment on Brother Clogs...

How was your day, flipping burgers?

And by the way.....I was the guy responding to your post the other day telling you that the Pa was going up......you thought it was going down.....and then you tried to slam me and say that any newbie would know the price was going up.......anyway......doesn't really matter......as long as we are all making some profit here.......I hope you had a successful day. you don't have to make a millions to pay for your monthly internet access......19.95 a month.....and you can post whatever you want on here.......or so it seems.

cheers.
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #477,515
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:34pm Jun 30, 2011 9:34pm
Quoting Faller
I was long till the transition period at noon hour today.....took profit and went short at 2pm......came home after a dinner out with the family to see the profits.....going to let this roll and carry over the weekend......
Of course you were...

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  • #477,516
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:35pm Jun 30, 2011 9:35pm
Quoting Magix
And there is where having a little handle on VSA can help...

But agreed on the idea of targets for profit, not assuming reversals...

Maybe I should pull some VSA into my lower time frame tradings... daily charts are generally a no brainer. A direction switch can't really get any more obvious at that chart level and above.

I get my fair share of stops hit even on the 15m though, and if I could filter out a couple more bad setups it would be awesome.
  • #477,517
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:36pm Jun 30, 2011 9:36pm
Quoting Faller
And by the way.....I was the guy responding to your post the other day telling you that the Pa was going up......you thought it was going down.....and then you tried to slam me and say that any newbie would know the price was going up.......anyway......doesn't really matter......as long as we are all making some profit here.......I hope you had a successful day. you don't have to make a millions to pay for your monthly internet access......19.95 a month.....and you can post whatever you want on here.......or so it seems.

cheers.
Considering it was at a decision zone... i'd say ya both are crazy for pulling any type of prediction out of that. Follow price... much better course of action, IMO.
  • #477,518
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:36pm Jun 30, 2011 9:36pm
Quoting Faller
And by the way.....I was the guy responding to your post the other day telling you that the Pa was going up......you thought it was going down.....and then you tried to slam me and say that any newbie would know the price was going up.......anyway......doesn't really matter......as long as we are all making some profit here.......I hope you had a successful day. you don't have to make a millions to pay for your monthly internet access......19.95 a month.....and you can post whatever you want on here.......or so it seems.

cheers.
No dude...

I didn't say it was going down...I said we were at a reactionary point and wouldn't take much to trigger down...

I don't assume, I follow the money...

If you followed my posts...you would actually have something to talk about, instead of just talking shit...
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #477,519
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:38pm Jun 30, 2011 9:38pm
Quoting Venice
Maybe I should pull some VSA into my lower time frame tradings... daily charts are generally a no brainer. A direction switch can't really get any more obvious at that chart level and above.

I get my fair share of stops hit even on the 15m though, and if I could filter out a couple more bad setups it would be awesome.
No system is perfect...but every little bit can help....

I run volume on a few charts, typically the daily to see what money is doing...

From there, it is just a matter of triggering the trends...and the tpl I posted for gamer is all ya need on an M1....
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #477,520
  • Jun 30, 2011 9:39pm Jun 30, 2011 9:39pm
ok ladies....ummm...Lets focus on the current PA....I really thought we would get a test of 45.....now we are moving lower through DPP again.....that tells me the current strength lies south
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