Sonic R. System | Page 1135 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Sonic R.evolution 95 replies

The System Behind the System, by Merlin Jeffries 16 replies

Old School Sonic System + Other Things 11 replies

Knife system, Vegas 4h system related questions. 4 replies

Would you trade this system? New system #2. 10 replies

Attachments: Sonic R. System
Exit Attachments

Sonic R. System

  • #22,681
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:35am Jun 30, 2011 10:35am
Hi TAH, thanks for all the great examples and insight that you and sonic do..
I'm still learning the system and reading thru all the previous pages with all the note from you and sonic.

Is there anyway you can post a chart once you get an alert where the entry should be?
I'd like to make sure i am entering correctly on my demo account.

thanks again.






Quoting traderathome
EU:

Longs, be careful. This could turn out as the infamous improper WAVE....a wide swing opposite the next run! High booster volume, too. It could be closing of longs, or run of stops on the shorts of others.
  • #22,682
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:37am Jun 30, 2011 10:37am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Longs, be careful. This could turn out as the infamous improper WAVE....a wide swing opposite the next run! High booster volume, too. It could be closing of longs, or run of stops on the shorts of others.
At least one more upthrust and this time you might be right TAH
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: EU_110630_long.gif Size: 33 KB
Mind the gap
  • #22,683
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:44am Jun 30, 2011 10:44am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Longs, be careful. This could turn out as the infamous improper WAVE....a wide swing opposite the next run! High booster volume, too. It could be closing of longs, or run of stops on the shorts of others.
TAH, your position sizing algo seems to be a complex one scaling out your risk among so many positions/pairs. Could you pls tell me/us a few words about how you manage this?

Thanks in advance.
Mind the gap
  • #22,684
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:45am Jun 30, 2011 10:45am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Sent out last SS ES8 = 1.4525, and this should be the last post on this trade until it closes out.
TAH, from this point...
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: kkkkkkkkkccccc.gif Size: 60 KB
cut losses short, let profits run.
  • #22,685
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:47am Jun 30, 2011 10:47am
Quoting Domas4
No, no bias. Just to see where bigger trend is going.
OK, thanks.
Mind the gap
  • #22,686
  • Jun 30, 2011 10:51am Jun 30, 2011 10:51am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

No Bear move yet. But not Bullish, either. BBs still working for positions before a drive? And time is running with a H&S forming up. Exciting!



u can´t copy my style - never ....

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #22,687
  • Jun 30, 2011 11:16am Jun 30, 2011 11:16am
Quoting Sunbrella
TAH, your position sizing algo seems to be a complex one scaling out your risk among so many positions/pairs. Could you pls tell me/us a few words about how you manage this?

Thanks in advance.
I have gone thru this several times already. In brief, I trade very small relative to account. Risk formula becomes NA until I load up on too many trades. It is that simple. Others will not like trading this way. I am not sure I like it, but it is an experiment running since last November. The serious disadvantages are that the earning power of account is ineffectively utilized, and that time to profit can exceed ones normal lifespan.
  • #22,688
  • Jun 30, 2011 11:25am Jun 30, 2011 11:25am
Quoting traderathome
I have gone thru this several times already. In brief, I trade very small relative to account. Risk formula becomes NA until I load up on too many trades. It is that simple. Others will not like trading this way. I am not sure I like it, but it is an experiment running since last November. The serious disadvantages are that the earning power of account is ineffectively utilized, and that time to profit can exceed ones normal lifespan.
OK, thanks.
Mind the gap
  • #22,689
  • Jun 30, 2011 11:26am Jun 30, 2011 11:26am
Quoting traderathome
I have gone thru this several times already. In brief, I trade very small relative to account. Risk formula becomes NA until I load up on too many trades. It is that simple. Others will not like trading this way. I am not sure I like it, but it is an experiment running since last November. The serious disadvantages are that the earning power of account is ineffectively utilized, and that time to profit can exceed ones normal lifespan.

come on man - show it - I will see you profits - the thrust is on you side ...

me tooo.


how old are you? Are you parents rich ???

come tell me you secret of endless money ...

or are you a ????

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #22,690
  • Jun 30, 2011 12:09pm Jun 30, 2011 12:09pm
Quoting sonicdeejay

Still holding ur short??

Told ya.. DD is a big killer for short TF trader like us..


Sonic

No new trade for me,, jus an old long holding since 1.411x .. Nite
Hey Bro sonic !!

.
  • #22,691
  • Jun 30, 2011 1:36pm Jun 30, 2011 1:36pm
UChf:

This was a SonicR long setup today. It ran well, and if you look at the Monthly you can judge for youself as to how high an intial bounce up might go.

Today I closed my multiple part long. Now I have re-entered EL1 = 0.8395 when the price pulled back to an S&R area. The London session is overwith, so there is a lot of time until the next, for market forces to play with the price. It could go lower. However, based on S&R this re-entry looks ok. If price should drop to the next lower S&R area, I have a pending order to add.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: # june 30, 2011 - 472..gif Size: 25 KB
  • #22,692
  • Jun 30, 2011 3:36pm Jun 30, 2011 3:36pm
perception of human being is a tricky thing. It is able to block some obvious fact or even distort them if they are not in our favor for some stressful situation. and also it is able to show some not obvious facts in so bright colors that we start to believe to them as to obvious truth. we are humans
  • #22,693
  • Jun 30, 2011 4:15pm Jun 30, 2011 4:15pm
QQE must be above the 50 Line and sloping up.
 CCI must be above the zero line and sloping up. It’s better that the colour of middle line of the CCI indicator be green for a long entry.
 It’s better and safer if there is a volume charge in NVO indicator.
 Pay attention to the angle of the slope on Tunnel Dragon (or three 34MAs). The steeper, the better. Avoid horizontal ranging periods. (Direction of angle : Long 1 to 2 O’clock, Short 4 to 5 O’clock, avoid 3 O’clock ranging)
 Have general trend/bias in mind, you can check it in higher time frames like H1, H4 and daily.
 It’s better that price be above the 89EMA for a long entry.
 Lookout for divergence. You can check it out in QQE or CCI indicator either.

Ok but the pics show other entry points I think in the manual. Why where they not taken? I think why they where not should be explained as well. I might be missing something. The system seems easy but when I look at your examples it is confusing. I am trying to create my own check list of importance but also varied options but still be ok on rank of importance.

Thanks for the help!
  • #22,694
  • Jun 30, 2011 7:03pm Jun 30, 2011 7:03pm
Quoting TRMZXT
QQE must be above the 50 Line and sloping up.
 CCI must be above the zero line and sloping up. It’s better that the colour of middle line of the CCI indicator be green for a long entry.
 It’s better and safer if there is a volume charge in NVO indicator.
 Pay attention to the angle of the slope on Tunnel Dragon (or three 34MAs). The steeper, the better. Avoid horizontal ranging periods. (Direction of angle : Long 1 to 2 O’clock, Short 4 to 5 O’clock, avoid 3 O’clock ranging)
 Have general trend/bias in mind, you can...
1. QQE must be above the 50 Line and sloping up.
.. Not used anymore

2. CCI must be above the zero line and sloping up. It’s better that the colour of middle line of the CCI indicator be green for a long entry.
.. Not used anymore

3. It’s better and safer if there is a volume charge in NVO indicator.
.. Volume still popularly used, so NVO can be used. As you read thru thread you will find helpful comments, but basically you look for sudden spikes

4. Pay attention to the angle of the slope on Tunnel Dragon (or three 34MAs). The steeper, the better. Avoid horizontal ranging periods. (Direction of angle : Long 1 to 2 O’clock, Short 4 to 5 O’clock, avoid 3 O’clock ranging)
.. Valid and very important basic of the Sonic R. System

5.Have general trend/bias in mind, you can check it in higher time frames like H1, H4 and daily.
.. Still ok to have a bias, so long as it is soundly supported by the charts. However, it is always best to enter the London session with that bias in your back pocket, because at any time the market forces can toss a curve ball.

6.It’s better that price be above the 89EMA for a long entry.
.. above for long and below for short

7. Lookout for divergence. You can check it out in QQE or CCI indicator either.
.. Sonic R. System does not use divergence.

TRMZXT, shed some of the unused garbage per above, and focus on the chart... PA Waves, S&R, and Dragon angle. Entries will in time become increasingly clear. Just do not forget that only entries of the London session are recommended. So, you might see what looks like a good entry, but that was not taken because it was not during the London session. Your checklist idea is great. Just keep it simple, like:
- London session
- Proper PA Wave in S&R area
- Dragon angle
- PA on proper side of Dragon
- PA on proper side of Trend, if the Trend is used

Hope this helps,
-tah
  • #22,695
  • Jun 30, 2011 7:16pm Jun 30, 2011 7:16pm
AU:

Entered EP short = 1.0708.

Not London sesssion
Valid PA Wave in S&R area.
Dragon down with PA below it.
PA below Trend, too.

AU is a popular pair to move during the asian session, which is why I chose not to wait for the London session. Mistake? Time will tell.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: # june 30, 2011 - 473..gif Size: 25 KB
  • #22,696
  • Jun 30, 2011 7:20pm Jun 30, 2011 7:20pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Entered EP short = 1.0708.

Not London sesssion
Valid PA Wave in S&R area.
Dragon down with PA below it.
PA below Trend, too.

AU is a popular pair to move during the asian session, which is why I chose not to wait for the London session. Mistake? Time will tell.
SL too tight IMHO..

Sonic
  • #22,697
  • Jun 30, 2011 8:24pm Jun 30, 2011 8:24pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
SL too tight IMHO..

Sonic
Sonic, I was wondering about it being too close. However, the asian session is not noted for wide swings, is it? I mean, the few times there are wide swings, aren't they so wide that even liberal SLs fall victim?

Would you suggest above 1.0775? Or, just above the previous highest highs? What position area do you like?
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: # june 30, 2011 - 474..gif Size: 25 KB
  • #22,698
  • Jul 1, 2011 1:55am Jul 1, 2011 1:55am
Quoting Domas4
TAH, from this point...
where can i get the coloured volume candles on ua chart is the indicator here plizz share
  • #22,699
  • Jul 1, 2011 2:32am Jul 1, 2011 2:32am
Quoting traderathome
UChf:

This was a SonicR long setup today. It ran well, and if you look at the Monthly you can judge for youself as to how high an intial bounce up might go.

Today I closed my multiple part long. Now I have re-entered EL1 = 0.8395 when the price pulled back to an S&R area. The London session is overwith, so there is a lot of time until the next, for market forces to play with the price. It could go lower. However, based on S&R this re-entry looks ok. If price should drop to the next lower S&R area, I have a pending order to add.

Yeah...the UC was the perefect pair for SonicR system...perfect example.

Congrats for your green pips on this...with patience is not necesary add's and SS's....

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #22,700
  • Jul 1, 2011 2:47am Jul 1, 2011 2:47am
Hello sonicers::

As always we have differents scenaries...

I just would trade the scenario 2 because it is the only one that fits the rules.

Anyway it's friday, be careful.

Pd: it could be a range day too...but lately the friday usualy is a swing day...just the BB's taking positions for the next week...let the market to decide.

Regards.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: 01-07-2011_eu_1.gif Size: 38 KB
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
28 traders viewing now