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  • #22,381
  • Edited 11:45am Jun 27, 2011 11:13am | Edited 11:45am
Quoting traderathome
UChf:

PA is close to breakout of previous high.......

Ok, the previous high is exceeded. The London session move today was Torpedo And Buy, just the opposite of Pump And Dump.
UChf:

Yep.

But, how can that be?
We were just told Friday about the strengthening Swiss Franc!
Gee, you don't think those that put out "news" and analysis would mislead, do you?

Sonicdeejay has it right....."Let the market decide".

I'm going to leave the UChf chart up, because there is no telling what the market will do. I'd not be surprised to see a late day run up.....a surprise run on stops on shorts to create liquidiy for the market to continue buying. Not likely? Neither was the Torpedo And Buy move in the very last minutes on Friday.
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  • #22,382
  • Jun 27, 2011 12:06pm Jun 27, 2011 12:06pm


oh thanks guys great entertainment great show -like always. keep up



see us at 1.50 or not

I forget to say

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #22,383
  • Jun 27, 2011 12:19pm Jun 27, 2011 12:19pm
Quoting enigma4x


oh thanks guys great entertainment great show -like always. keep up



see us at 1.50 or not

I forget to say

enigma4x
Whoa... 1.50 ? Where you getting that from ?
  • #22,384
  • Jun 27, 2011 1:22pm Jun 27, 2011 1:22pm
Quoting hansma
I would have preferred a setup like the red lines for a sonic reentry - but maybe by the looks of it - the green lines might work better.

Let the market decide.
I see that I got my retest to the pip and then target got hit. To bad I had to leave for work
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"The future is already written in the past"
  • #22,385
  • Jun 27, 2011 1:41pm Jun 27, 2011 1:41pm
Quoting PipDizzle
Whoa... 1.50 ? Where you getting that from ?





what should I say it is only an opinion ...

itīs me the stupid enigma4x - for shure Iīm wrong

you should ask the new thread master tah - his sonic r invasion - is great - that is what I red the last 50 pages.

Iīm shure you are all in huge profit, dontīchange your system ... follow TAH and ignore me. It should be no problem for you because you are all in huge profit.

enigma4x

p.s. I try to learn from TAH, if I have some time
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #22,386
  • Jun 27, 2011 3:44pm Jun 27, 2011 3:44pm
Quoting enigma4x




what should I say it is only an opinion ...

itīs me the stupid enigma4x - for shure Iīm wrong

you should ask the new thread master tah - his sonic r invasion - is great - that is what I red the last 50 pages.

Iīm shure you are all in huge profit, dontīchange your system ... follow TAH and ignore me. It should be no problem for you because you are all in huge profit.

enigma4x

p.s. I try to learn from TAH, if I have some time
Thanks, great contribution, very educational.

At the end you get the purpose of your signature ... I can see you effort for it seriously.

It's a real shame because I loved reading your analysis and I always thought that your contribution was big for this community. Anyway thanks for your previous stage in which you teach people. I learned some things.

Best Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #22,387
  • Jun 27, 2011 3:45pm Jun 27, 2011 3:45pm
Quoting enigma4x




what should I say it is only an opinion ...

itīs me the stupid enigma4x - for shure Iīm wrong

you should ask the new thread master tah - his sonic r invasion - is great - that is what I red the last 50 pages.

Iīm shure you are all in huge profit, dontīchange your system ... follow TAH and ignore me. It should be no problem for you because you are all in huge profit.

enigma4x

p.s. I try to learn from TAH, if I have some time

it's bugging!!
  • #22,388
  • Jun 27, 2011 4:20pm Jun 27, 2011 4:20pm
Quoting enigma4x




what should I say it is only an opinion ...

itīs me the stupid enigma4x - for shure Iīm wrong

you should ask the new thread master tah - his sonic r invasion - is great - that is what I red the last 50 pages.

Iīm shure you are all in huge profit, dontīchange your system ... follow TAH and ignore me. It should be no problem for you because you are all in huge profit.

enigma4x

p.s. I try to learn from TAH, if I have some time
I think you need a hug man
  • #22,389
  • Jun 27, 2011 5:31pm Jun 27, 2011 5:31pm
more like a kick in the butt..unless you want to call that a hug from a foot...
If you need something important don't hesitate to ask someone else.....
  • #22,390
  • Jun 27, 2011 5:31pm Jun 27, 2011 5:31pm
Quoting cdrmaster
more like a kick in the butt..unless you want to call that a hug from a foot...
  • #22,391
  • Jun 27, 2011 5:43pm Jun 27, 2011 5:43pm
Quoting enigma4x


oh thanks guys great entertainment great show -like always. keep up



see us at 1.50 or not

I forget to say

enigma4x
I was bullish since early monday morning(go see my post in eurusd) since 1.41..

I see 1.435x as a nice resistance...

Sonic
  • #22,392
  • Edited 7:04pm Jun 27, 2011 6:33pm | Edited 7:04pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
I was bullish since early monday morning(go see my post in eurusd) since 1.41..

I see 1.435x as a nice resistance...

Sonic
I am agreeing. We will be on the same page today, Sonic. Your influence is starting to temper me. (Tolerate me a few more years, and I'll have come around.)

The reason I agree can be seen on the attached H4. The gray bar is a S&R area, basically a half number area.....the 1.4350 half number area. And the red declining trend line suggests this area might act as resistance today if the market moves PA upwards.

Hope you had a good weekend and a good first day off. I look forward to your moderating influence on me for the rest of the week. I need it. Thanks, Master......ops, sorry,........whippersnapper & Master.
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  • #22,393
  • Edited 8:31pm Jun 27, 2011 7:38pm | Edited 8:31pm
EU:

Based on the H4 chart in the previous post, a run up to the 1.4350 won't make much profit for the market, not from the current PA area. However, if the price was first run down, say to the 1.4250 area, or a bit lower, then a move up to 1.4350 would be more profitable for the market.

On the M5 attached, in the early asian session a PA Wave at the whole number suggests a move down thru the whole number. Could this be a move that goes to the 1.4225-1.4250 area, before a second move up to the 1.4350 area? I don't know, but as a possibility for today, I have entered short at 1.4294.

Edit: Added 2nd chart. Stopped out. SL placement above leg 3 would not have triggered yet, maybe not at all. Remains to be seen.
20 pips loss on ES = 1.4294 closed at SL = 1.4312.
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  • #22,394
  • Jun 27, 2011 8:53pm Jun 27, 2011 8:53pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Based on the H4 chart in the previous post, a run up to the 1.4350 won't make much profit for the market, not from the current PA area. However, if the price was first run down, say to the 1.4250 area, or a bit lower, then a move up to 1.4350 would be more profitable for the market.

On the M5 attached, in the early asian session a PA Wave at the whole number suggests a move down thru the whole number. Could this be a move that goes to the 1.4225-1.4250 area, before a second move up to the 1.4350 area? I don't know, but as a possibility for...

I should have posted this earlier when I saw it
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  • #22,395
  • Edited 9:29pm Jun 27, 2011 9:02pm | Edited 9:29pm
EU:

Nothing has changed. The SL was just too near PA.

PA retraced back up 76% of the initial move down, and started falling back down. I am more confident of a coming move lower.

Entered ES1 = 1.4310.
Entered ES2 = 1.4299

Trading the M5 in the asian session can be a real pain.

Edit:
PA is taking too long. And a reasonable high for the day (1.4350) is not that much beyond the SL. I am therefore removing the SL for now, and will rely on the anticipated resistance in the 1.4350 area in case PA does not move down until after a move up. The TP is raised to the 1.4250 level if we do get a move down first. See 2nd chart.
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  • #22,396
  • Jun 27, 2011 9:15pm Jun 27, 2011 9:15pm
Saw this on the 15min
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  • #22,397
  • Jun 27, 2011 9:34pm Jun 27, 2011 9:34pm
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Nothing has changed. The SL was just too near PA.

PA retraced back up 76% of the initial move down, and started falling back down. I am more confident of a coming move lower.

Entered ES1 = 1.4310.
Entered ES2 = 1.4299

Trading the M5 in the asian session can be a real pain.

Edit:
PA is taking too long. And a reasonable high for the day (1.4350) is not that much beyond the SL. I am therefore removing the SL for now, and will rely on the anticipated resistance in the 1.4350 area in case PA does not move down until after a move up. The...

I am with ya TAH, btw great trades recently.
I will wait for proper Sonic R classic setup wiht PA break under 1.429xx. safe play for me.
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seeing through
  • #22,398
  • Edited Jun 28, 2011 2:31am Jun 27, 2011 10:40pm | Edited Jun 28, 2011 2:31am
Quoting traderathome
Personal Comment:

I am disgusted with myself today, making rookie moves and mistakes.

Maybe I should try what Sonic is doing....just trade EU, just be more patient about entries.

With 24 closed trades this week, 19 profitable for 794 pips, I should not complain. But I am, because I am getting the feeling I am trading too many pairs, and trading too much, entering too soon, etc.

This may be it for the week for me. But whenever I do resume, it will be EU & patience.....give myself a chance to unwind.

With making rookie moves and mistakes, your trading results last week still very profitable.

Your this week result even better.

I used to post many charts of all my trades that included AUD/JPY, AUD/USD, EUR/GBP, EUR/JPY, EUR/USD, GBP/JPY, GBP/USD, NZD/USD, USD/CAD, USD/CHF and USD/JPY.

Then someone on FF recommend to cut down those pairs.

I did some statistics on which pairs gave me better results even though all basically gave me negative results!

I eliminated the really bad statistics results I made, the pairs that have high pip spread and high pip slippage, and the ones that don't really move much in my trading time.

And focus on the pairs that I did better, where it suited my trading timing, have tighter spreads, and offer some adequate volatility.

I now focus on 3 pairs, they are EUR/USD, GBP/USD, and EUR/JPY.
I do still like the AUD pairs, just too much time to analyse as well.

Choose GBP/USD and EUR/JPY as they gave volatility and they did give me some good pips during my statistics.

Originally did not like EUR/USD as could not read it and the move was flat.
Then realised actually EUR/USD has a very trending nature and may go flat for a few days that you must just wait, and it actually behaves better than the other 2 chosen.

By focusing on these 3 pairs, the fewer pairs has definitely helped better understanding of their movements.

TAH, as you are a much more active trader/analyst, it may be difficult for you to stick with just 1 pair, EUR/USD.
Thought EUR/USD was more like your nemesis, but recently it is turning golden for you.
You can still analyse your many pairs, and you may also improve your trading once you focus on a few pairs(those that gave you better results, suitable for your trading time) for trading purpose instead.
  • #22,399
  • Jun 27, 2011 11:10pm Jun 27, 2011 11:10pm
Quoting traderathome
Kimis, your observation is astute and highly welcomed. The problem in trading is that we never know when a bottom is the final bottom, or a top is the final top.

The Sonic Scout situation uses high volume, high spread candles to try and pick top/bottom areas, but still there is no guarantee. That is why the SS trade is high risk. If you look on the M15 as the asian market pulled down the price, there are a series of SS "bars". No one could have known if the current was the final.

So, I entered as they appeared, lest PA suddenly move back...

TAH, discussing on what Kimis mentioned and that you are missing something.

Look at page 1489 on your recent EUR/USD Long M5 charts where you took Sonic Scouts EL1, EL2, EL3, EL4 and EL5(EL5 more like normal Sonic).

After your trades have exited, do you normally go back to re-analyse and ask yourself why you should NOT have enter at those specific entries, but should wait for further confirmation before entering ???


First, drop the Candle/Volume indicator for now as it seem to cause more headaches here, and not worth it.

Just look at Volume, and also add a Simple Moving Average with a longer period like 100 onto the Volume.

You compare the entries of (EL1, EL2, EL3) versus (EL4, EL5).

Let me know What do you notice after your comparison ??

Just because a bar seem like having a Stopping Volume, we cannot assume that it is Stopping Volume.
We need confirmation after that bar to prove to us that bar could have been the Stopping Volume.

After you see what you think is Stopping Volume, DON'T enter yet.
WAIT and observe the Price Action and Volume of the next few bars after that.
That is the biggest hint, and you have eliminated most of (EL1, EL2, EL3) and choose (EL4, EL5) instead.

Many pips to you.
  • #22,400
  • Jun 28, 2011 12:39am Jun 28, 2011 12:39am
  •  sam21
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Soon to be employed by the market | 125 Posts
Hello every ,, new here and first post ofter readinh the thread what you think............EUr/Usd
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