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  • #472,261
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:13pm Jun 26, 2011 2:13pm
Quoting PhAnTi'
next warren buffet.

Thanks but as father I want my kid only in good physical health & sound mind & no lust for any great success & great money for this world to live & time pass , like me . Now kid never follow the fathers perhaps , they are one step up than the old from birth perhaps .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #472,262
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:15pm Jun 26, 2011 2:15pm
Quoting kenfen69
So times that x 3 for three acres. Hmmmmm...I'm stumped on what to do. I like to diversify, though. Have you got three acres going for 10 of my ounces?
This isn't the forum to pursue ag issues, but I think you'll find a good average is 75 gal of bio diesel and 2500 lbs of meal can come off of an acre. So it's not a great yield (meal's around 350 a ton, diesel is what it is, not counting federal subsidies).

So it's not a great cash return on the land. The real calc is to apply the BTUs in the fuel against the cultivation cost in BTUs and see what you come up with net with the meal less crush cost plus the remaining fuel. That still doesn't include depreciation and labor. Basis of the calc is about 50 bu per acre. Can be more, can be less.

But how much does your gold return you per year, other than the value fluctuations? Point is, they're both hedges, and very different ones.

Off topic for a later time.
  • #472,263
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:18pm Jun 26, 2011 2:18pm
Quoting fontu
Thanks again for wishes & help.2 years old Udoy pics .
fontu
Very sweet, fontu! I can see why you're a proud daddy...precious!

Take care of him...and good luck this week.
  • #472,264
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:28pm Jun 26, 2011 2:28pm
Quoting OldQuant
Can't stay long; I've got some mundane stuff that has to be done. But...

Gator, you are right on the dime this morning in your commentaries. Really enjoyed the read.

One thing to add to his spot-on petrol comments: what links sunflowers, peanuts, cotton, soybeans, and canola together? Bio diesel. What differentiates them? They're grown, variously, in the west, south, midwest, and north. So, just for recreation, ask yourself: what would you rather own, ten ounces of gold or three acres of black loam bean land in Illinois?

The only thing...
hmmmm we touched good old 4168 today and bounced..to 4208... atm... let c what happens at 4212
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,265
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:29pm Jun 26, 2011 2:29pm
Quoting kenfen69
Very sweet, fontu! I can see why you're a proud daddy...precious!

Take care of him...and good luck this week.
Thanks sure . And sure this week week will be very tough to play < may do a little just to sit if not go in my way all on a sudden . online quotes 4205 now I see . will check only next morning .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #472,266
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:30pm Jun 26, 2011 2:30pm
Quoting OldQuant
But how much does your gold return you per year, other than the value fluctuations? Point is, they're both hedges, and very different ones.

Off topic for a later time.
Interesting stuff, my friend.

Up until this point, my gold has done very well...I certainly haven't bought any anywhere near $1500. But, question is...how will it do from here? I do like a couple of things about my gold...well precious metals physical holdings, namely...

1. The net price I paid.
2. That I paid for it (for the most part) through profits from electronic metals trades.
3. The percentage of my net worth held in metals is very conservative.

I'm in no rush to add. Wouldn't mind at all if I have done as well out of it as I am ever going to.

Will have to educate myself a little further with what you have brought up...but the wheels are already spinning...and for that, I thank you!

All the best.
  • #472,267
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:34pm Jun 26, 2011 2:34pm
Quoting geniusztc
hey,gator,i did not follow you very much recently .so some thing can not understand . oil ?dollar . may you explain more ?
yeah been watching the oil thing this week too.
usally the correlation was inverse: oil down = $ up

USD/CAD looks better to play to me as it has the same inverse correlation to oil - canada is mayor oil exporter to US

but this one day oil manipulations doesnt hold water for me..
  • #472,268
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:35pm Jun 26, 2011 2:35pm
Quoting gatorinla
hmmmm we touched good old 4168 today and bounced..to 4208... atm... let c what happens at 4212
Not a fan of the formation, but could be an inverted H&S play on the M15 with a target of 4240(ish). 4268 and 4302 above there. Below...

As far as the eye can see, I suppose!
  • #472,269
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:35pm Jun 26, 2011 2:35pm
Quoting gatorinla
hmmmm we touched good old 4168 today and bounced..to 4208... atm... let c what happens at 4212
1.4217 hummm
now hold 1.4212
  • #472,270
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:37pm Jun 26, 2011 2:37pm
Quoting fontu
Thanks again for wishes & help.2 years old Udoy pics .
fontu
nice one.... like father like son
  • #472,271
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:41pm Jun 26, 2011 2:41pm
Quoting geniusztc
hey,gator,i did not follow you very much recently .so some thing can not understand . oil ?dollar . may you explain more ?
it closed below the highest weekly close in the recent cluster. that cluster is late nov/jan.. the bottom of the cluster is 85.53.. lose that and its another weekly bear b/o.. but the 6 bucks from 91.44 till 85.53 probably will not give up easily. we are in the middle of a big mofu.. centered at 89.95... my original target #2 was 89.37 untouched yet.. we have touched 89.95 and have been rejected so far since Friday. the levels are posted. just look back through the last 24h post
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,272
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:51pm Jun 26, 2011 2:51pm
Something nice from one of best movies in my opinion
Before very very very important week start enjoy and B READY
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  • #472,273
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:54pm Jun 26, 2011 2:54pm
1.421 at moment. there was a weak bullish signal on M15 in the 4th candle before closing on friday at 1.418 and I would have expected resistence at current level.

This is going to be a rollercoaster week and as I cannot follow closely during the day I will step back and watch the action unfold. h1, h4 and d1 are rather pointing down in ichimoku. However the perception of a bearish outlook is too widespread at the moment which usually rings the alarm bell.
  • #472,274
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:55pm Jun 26, 2011 2:55pm
oh and Hi to everyone, hope your weekend was as pleasant as mine
  • #472,275
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:56pm Jun 26, 2011 2:56pm
Quoting Motiv
1.4217 hummm
now hold 1.4212
lm not in yet. i closed all Friday.. since we are above 12.. and the Asians like weekly candles. i may look at 4252 attraction.. i cant short this close to the bottom with 4252 there atm.. no hurry.. lots of time..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,276
  • Jun 26, 2011 2:58pm Jun 26, 2011 2:58pm
Nice Eg -- Definately one of the best movies ever

Quoting egkid
Something nice from one of best movies in my opinion
Before very very very important week start enjoy and B READY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeQGD...eature=related
Disclaimer: Check your 1m charts
  • #472,277
  • Jun 26, 2011 3:01pm Jun 26, 2011 3:01pm
Quoting gatorinla
lm not on yet. i closed all Friday.. since we are above 12.. and the Asians like weekly candles. i may look at 4252 attraction.. i cant short this close to the bottom with 4252 there atm.. no hurry.. lots of time..
It's a big gap we have back down again,4252 and back to 1.4190?
What you think gator?
  • #472,278
  • Jun 26, 2011 3:02pm Jun 26, 2011 3:02pm
Quoting 2046
oh and Hi to everyone, hope your weekend was as pleasant as mine
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  • #472,279
  • Jun 26, 2011 3:05pm Jun 26, 2011 3:05pm
Quoting Motiv
It's a big gap we have back down again,4252 and back to 1.4190?
What you think gator?
thinking just cost me money. im just watching and letting pa drive the trading.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,280
  • Jun 26, 2011 3:09pm Jun 26, 2011 3:09pm
Oh my -a cold beer would round everything off.
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