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  • #472,221
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:39am Jun 26, 2011 11:39am
I suppose next 2 week will b so exciting
  • #472,222
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:39am Jun 26, 2011 11:39am
Quoting kenfen69
Hate to post ZH articles here, because some just think it is all doom and gloom, but this is a pretty interesting one, of the oily variety. Won't happen Monday morning, but could certainly be on the horizon.


As The IEA-OPEC Nash Equilibrium Collapses, Is A 1973-Style OPEC Embargo Next?
the peasants are already in the streets in the mid east.. and these oil producing countries need cash. to keep them out the palace. let them cut oil and watch their food go up... as revenue drops.. let them drink their oil and eat sand. .cutting oil supply will just make the u.s. and other countries legislate a permanent non foreign oil solution. if i was long oil i would be putting out stories to all that would listen also. there was no petro product called diesel when the engine was invented. the diesel motor was designed to run on vegetable oil. named after the inventor. the Brazilians have a booming economy and grow their fuel cheap enough. so they can export most of their oil.. the u.s. can do the same thing. the Saudis know this. that's why oil drops with each non foothold develops. we go to war when oil is 23 per barrel.... just a few years later its 147 per barrel. what a investment for the guys deep in oil to fund the guys flying planes. we certainly showed them..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,223
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:42am Jun 26, 2011 11:42am
longing :-)
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  • #472,224
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:44am Jun 26, 2011 11:44am
Quoting Venice
heh heh heh. I just opened a Micro 250$ account with Alpari. I want to see how far I can get this account in 1 year trading nothing but the dailies.

In July of 2012, I will convert this account to full physical Silver. Weeee.
Noice! Keep us posted!

Quoting Venice
Ken... any recommended place to buy from? I see the government has plenty of sources available... don't really want them knowing I own it though.
These guys have become my "go to" source for a while. Nice people...have got to know them pretty well. They have pretty much everything, but they are in Canada. They do ship to the US, though.

State-side...I have dealt with these guys...also pretty good. Have dealt with a couple others, too. Will dig them up and send you a PM if you want, but to be honest...those two are probably the best ones I have dealt with.

The Canadian one is hands down the best one I've dealt with...may even be better for you to deal with them to keep your guv out of it!

Bought at a "tube" of 20 eagles, or 25 maple leafs at a time...nobody is really going to know what is being sent to you. If you're buying Monster Boxes...alarm bells may ring!
  • #472,225
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:52am Jun 26, 2011 11:52am
Quoting gatorinla
let them drink their oil and eat sand...

we go to war when oil is 23 per barrel.... just a few years later its 147 per barrel. what a investment for the guys deep in oil to fund the guys flying planes. we certainly showed them..
Never a dull moment...comfortable is creepy...seems to be the new norm.

Will just be interesting to see do they take it in stride...or risk more turmoil to make a "stand."

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In relation to this, too...kinds, sorta...one more ZH article, well...Reuters, really...that I didn't see much talk about...

House Rejects Measure Approving "Limited" Military Intervention In Libya

Just out:

 

  1. HOUSE REJECTS MEASURE TO ALLOW ONLY SOME SUPPORT ACTIONS
  2. HOUSE VOTES NOT TO RESTRICT U.S. MILITARY ROLE IN LIBYA

The vote was 238 to 180. So does this mean the president is now implicitly violating the War Powers Act? It is getting impossible to follow all the strands of the 5 war fronts that America is successfully finding itself into. Also, does it mean America is now officially at war with Libya? Or does it mean simply that America has unlimited funding to continue its pursuit of "humanitarian" light sweet?

Love that last bit in bold!

  • #472,226
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:54am Jun 26, 2011 11:54am
Can someone tell me how post new poll?
  • #472,227
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:55am Jun 26, 2011 11:55am
Quoting Leche Mocha
Probably won't happen just like people read all the reports put out everywhere to wait until the E/U was at 1.4500 then sell. They put out those reports to cut in front of all the traders' orders, imo. Releasing the SPR has never helped bring down oil prices more than a few days in the past from what I've seen. I think this puullback on Gold is just a hiccup that will bought up and it will go to new highs. Nothing is better in the world economies, if anything it's getting worse. Gold is a rockstar until the debt crisis is solved.
just a hype for a metal with some industrial use. some nice jewelry. in the overall picture it has little value. since you cant eat it and the guy with lead will take it from you if he wills too. an ancient currency just like sea shells. pebbles or sticks. the guys selling are always willing to trade it for paper. if it was so valuable why trade it for a paper that they claim is worthless.
hell if i had a commodity i was sure would be worth double in a certain amount of time. why would i trade it for paper that i expect to lose value?
the worlds got pt barnum syndrome. hoping they pass the hot potato to the next guy before getting burned. pump up the hype enough and they will come.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,228
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:57am Jun 26, 2011 11:57am
Quoting gatorinla
just a hype for a metal with some industrial use. some nice jewelry. in the overall picture it has little value. since you cant eat it and the guy with lead will take it from you if he wills too, with lead. an ancient currency just like sea shells. pebbles or sticks. the guys selling are always willing to trade it for paper. if it was so valuable why trade it for a paper that they claim is worthless.
hell if i had a commodity i was sure would be worth double in a certain amount of time. why would i trade it for paper that i expect to lose value?
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Absolutely gator. Things only have value because it is what has been stated right now.

When the sh*t hits the fan... the highest of currencies are food, shelter etc.
  • #472,229
  • Jun 26, 2011 11:57am Jun 26, 2011 11:57am
Quoting kenfen69
Noice! Keep us posted!


These guys have become my "go to" source for a while. Nice people...have got to know them pretty well. They have pretty much everything, but they are in Canada. They do ship to the US, though.

State-side...I have dealt with these guys...also pretty good. Have dealt with a couple others, too. Will dig them up and send you a PM if you want, but to be honest...those two are probably the best ones I have dealt with....
Thanks!! The monster box does look pretty sweet.... lol. Wouldn't mind a couple bars either...
  • #472,230
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:02pm Jun 26, 2011 12:02pm
I guess they all believe the guy with the most gold can buy the most lead before the chit really hits the fan. I don't try to psychoanalye them too much. I just trade the trade.
Quoting gatorinla
just a hype for a metal with some industrial use. some nice jewelry. in the overall picture it has little value. since you cant eat it and the guy with lead will take it from you if he wills too. an ancient currency just like sea shells. pebbles or sticks. the guys selling are always willing to trade it for paper. if it was so valuable why trade it for a paper that they claim is worthless.
hell if i had a commodity i was sure would be worth double in a certain amount of time. why would i trade it for paper that i expect to lose value?
the worlds...
  • #472,231
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:04pm Jun 26, 2011 12:04pm
Quoting Venice
Thanks!! The monster box does look pretty sweet.... lol. Wouldn't mind a couple bars either...
Put 10 of them together and you have a nice base for a mattress!

The bars ARE nice! If all else fails, you could smack someone in the head with them...real guerrilla warfare! None of this "mamby pamby" bollocks!

  • #472,232
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:09pm Jun 26, 2011 12:09pm
Quoting kenfen69
Put 10 of them together and you have a nice base for a mattress!

The bars ARE nice! If all else fails, you could smack someone in the head with them...real guerrilla warfare! None of this "mamby pamby" bollocks!



"Dude, did you seriously just chuck silver at me??"
  • #472,233
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:09pm Jun 26, 2011 12:09pm
Quoting kenfen69
Those are on my long term account, though. Been open since April/May. I did close 75% around 1.42 if I remember correctly. Added a little again on the most recent break of 1.46. Just trying to hold this position for 1000+ pips to break my own record. It fell so fast though in early May, that I HAD to book some...would have been a gobshite not to have!

Would love to see more of how you play the dailies!
Way to go keep up the great work. It is always nice to see how a real trader does it.

I wish that more could follow your lead instead of trying to scalp 5 pips and getting margin called when news spikes a 100 against them.

If there are any noobs out there please re read this quote over and over and over again because there can be no better lesson.

Please be careful out there.
Timing is everything
  • #472,234
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:12pm Jun 26, 2011 12:12pm
Quoting kenfen69
Never a dull moment...comfortable is creepy...seems to be the new norm.

Will just be interesting to see do they take it in stride...or risk more turmoil to make a "stand."

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In relation to this, too...kinds, sorta...one more ZH article, well...Reuters, really...that I didn't see much talk about...

[url="http://www.zerohedge.com/article/house-rejects-measure-allow-only-some-libyan-support-actions"]House Rejects Measure Approving "Limited" Military...
same old shit.. fat guys on the radio misinforming the sheep. or misdirection bitching about a billion when a trillion is being pushed out the back door.
the sheep focus on the nickle when there are robbed a dollar. 147 per barrel... add in 3 wars and a few drops of blood to the cost.. then the price goes up to what 3k a barrel? when the sheep see the real bill they may be forced to turn the fat guy off. its kinda funny, i guess just coincidence that the oil industry loves him..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,235
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:14pm Jun 26, 2011 12:14pm
Quoting Leche Mocha
I guess they all believe the guy with the most gold can buy the most lead before the chit really hits the fan. I don't try to psychoanalye them too much. I just trade the trade.
just don't be the guy w/o a seat when the music stops.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #472,236
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:14pm Jun 26, 2011 12:14pm
Quoting Venice


"Dude, did you seriously just chuck silver at me??"
hahahahahaahaha!

Not yet, mate...maybe below $10!
  • #472,237
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:17pm Jun 26, 2011 12:17pm
Quoting Gull
Way to go keep up the great work. It is always nice to see how a real trader does it.

I wish that more could follow your lead instead of trying to scalp 5 pips and getting margin called when news spikes a 100 against them.

If there are any noobs out there please re read this quote over and over and over again because there can be no better lesson.

Please be careful out there.
I have always considered my scalping account a beer money account. I still don't understand why people try and make their money scalping... granted, I am not that good at it... but, generally on the daily, most positive trades range between 50 pips on a bad trade, average 100-300, and the occasional 500 pip whopper.

I don't understand why people try and chase price around so much on scalping. Lot less stress, plenty of time to make decisions (24 hours per daily bar); and a little screen time. Some say I missing out on a boatload of pips... whatever... lol, there are plenty of pips to be had on the daily... and if you can't get your monies right off of 200-500 pips a week... something isn't right.
  • #472,238
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:19pm Jun 26, 2011 12:19pm
Quoting gatorinla
just don't be the guy w/o a seat when the music stops.
Who cares about a seat. I'll be the guy standing there with no seat, holding the AK... bet i'll have a lot of seats then I'll be glad to show them how little of value there little seat really is.

Always prepared, I say...
  • #472,239
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:20pm Jun 26, 2011 12:20pm
A true statement in any endeavor. I submit that when the music stops traders will just go short and continue to trade the trade. Those taking physical delivery of gold will be screwed but traders won't be.
Quoting gatorinla
just don't be the guy w/o a seat when the music stops.
  • #472,240
  • Jun 26, 2011 12:23pm Jun 26, 2011 12:23pm
Quoting gatorinla
the sheep focus on the nickle when there are robbed a dollar. 147 per barrel... add in 3 wars and a few drops of blood to the cost.. then the price goes up to what 3k a barrel? when the sheep see the real bill they may be forced to turn the fat guy off. its kinda funny, i guess just coincidence that the oil industry loves him..
Quoting gatorinla
just don't be the guy w/o a seat when the music stops.
Speaking the truth, gman!
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