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  • #471,081
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:10pm Jun 23, 2011 9:10pm
yep closed em.....Ill c if 4315 area is ripe for them or not....Markus and I were talking that area earlier


Quoting attila
I would be careful with them shorts. 4316 first.
  • #471,082
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:12pm Jun 23, 2011 9:12pm
Quoting needpips
yep closed em.....Ill c if 4315 area is ripe for them or not....Markus and I were talking that area earlier
there is a line on my chart there, plus that's the next valid supply zone. we are in the middle of nowhere now with some huge bull candles behind us.
  • #471,083
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:15pm Jun 23, 2011 9:15pm
Was making a snack and missed the knife down there, but still good pips....Might be awesome to see 43+ for a hum-dinger


Quoting attila
there is a line on my chart there, plus that's the next valid supply zone. we are in the middle of nowhere now with some huge bull candles behind us.
  • #471,084
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:15pm Jun 23, 2011 9:15pm
Quoting attila
I would be careful with them shorts. 4316 first.
The chart have not start showing shorts as yet for me, for the record as long as the 12MA keep PA above it then i am long it is as simply as that i am not in bussiness of picking top and bottom but making money, follow the current trend
Following the current trend
  • #471,085
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:17pm Jun 23, 2011 9:17pm
Actually the last 30 min candle looks really bullish....no?
  • #471,086
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:19pm Jun 23, 2011 9:19pm
Quoting 10piptrade
The chart have not start showing shorts as yet for me, for the record as long as the 12MA keep PA above it then i am long it is as simply as that i am not in bussiness of picking top and bottom but making money, follow the current trend
We'll see what happens. I have this hour high at 78 with a close at 47. low is 44. these numbers are just guides should be taken with a grain of salt. 4316 is what matters, but the way it goes we might have to wait for london for that.
  • #471,087
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:21pm Jun 23, 2011 9:21pm
Quoting OldQuant
I'm sorry, but I don't remember the post. Please be more specific.

But, in any case, I am not an EA programmer; I am, in fact barely a programmer, and then only in dot Net or Excel. Depending on what you are referring to, though, I might be able to provide you with a bit of algorithmic explanation.
Well thanks for your reply, it was a discussion last night between you and 2+2=4 i think re naked charts and MA and indicators and something came up about automative trading.So i just ask on that bases
Following the current trend
  • #471,088
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:32pm Jun 23, 2011 9:32pm
Quoting attila
We'll see what happens. I have this hour high at 78 with a close at 47. low is 44. these numbers are just guides should be taken with a grain of salt. 4316 is what matters, but the way it goes we might have to wait for london for that.
price as rejected the day MA which is 24 which is acting as support which years have teach me that price need higher;but it is currently unable to break the 144 MA which is the 6 day MA which for me the 4Hr open will do it for me or this hour open at 1.4260 and above suggest higher i did buy today at 1.4197 and is holding until 1.4297
Following the current trend
  • #471,089
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:35pm Jun 23, 2011 9:35pm
Quoting 10piptrade
price as rejected the day MA which is 24 which is acting as support which years have teach me that price need higher;but it is currently unable to break the 144 MA which is the 6 day MA which for me the 4Hr open will do it for me or this hour open at 1.4260 and above suggest higher i did buy today at 1.4197 and is holding until 1.4297
Yeap. Fair enough. I don't have any MAs on my chart but I think I know what you are saying.
  • #471,090
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:35pm Jun 23, 2011 9:35pm
Quoting sofia101
I have a question since you are so wise ...

...more then one time I see news happened on a chart ,before they hit the news wires
Well first, your phrasing reminds me of a scene in Monte Python and the Holy Grail:

Sir Bedevere: “There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: “Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: “Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: “Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: “And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: “More witches.
Peasant 2: “Wood.
Sir Bedevere: “Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: “...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: “Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: “Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: “But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: “Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: “Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: “No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: “No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: “Bread.
Peasant 2: “Apples.
Peasant 3: “Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: “Cider.
Peasant 2: “Gravy.
Peasant 3: “Cherries.
Peasant 1: “Mud.
Peasant 2: “Churches.
Peasant 3: “Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: “A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: “...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: “If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: “And therefore...
Peasant 2: “...A witch!

Whereupon they carry the witch away, and Sir Bedevere asks of Arthur: "Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?"

Now with that out of the way, to the second. You may get other, better answers, but it is simply that in a decentralized electronic market like forex, heavy buying/selling cannot occur (quickly; with time, options might be used) without that demand/supply moving the ask/bid. That will appear on a chart. So sometimes, leaked information (gee I wonder if a class act like the Greek government might have had some leaks??) will appear in charts before the announcement.

Problem is, though, it often can only be identified as to its source and meaning after the fact. Further, there are, as you may have noticed before announcements, often a false (deliberate deception? supply/demand imbalance? who knows?) move. But of course, not always.

Hope this helps.

By the way, (again from Holy Grail): you can always tell a king because he doesn't have sh!t all over him.
  • #471,091
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:38pm Jun 23, 2011 9:38pm
Quoting Motiv
What you mean about another 2 h's to go will it be -53 or + 62?
h=hour.. and -4253 below or above +4262
-53 close in 1.5 h is a positive sign for a bear b/o 000est
-4168 is another
until b/o we will return above 4253 at 00est. this alone don't mean shit.. because s/r cant trump any candle. but its a tool used with others. bulls want a min of 62 closed above 72 would be better and 4304 even better to erase the day and 1h and 4h... between 4304 and 4253... everyone here is full of shit. so including me. so i stick with the mofus.. and 4277.9 because all the other tf dont mean shit. in this area atm,,
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #471,092
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:41pm Jun 23, 2011 9:41pm
Quoting tornado11
Hey guys, I am calling 4500, but that is just me. This UTL has been tested and check out the Daily failure....HUGE. I am not afraid to go against the masses.
4420 here
  • #471,093
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:43pm Jun 23, 2011 9:43pm
Quoting gatorinla
h=hour.. and -4253 below or above +4262
-53 close in 1.5 h is a positive sign for a bear b/o 000est
-4168 is another
until b/o we will return above 4253 at 00est. this alone don't mean shit.. because s/r cant trump any candle. but its a tool used with others. bulls want a min of 62 closed above 72 would be better and 4304 even better to erase the day and 1h and 4h... between 4304 and 4253... everyone here is full of shit. so including me. so i stick with the mofus.. and 4277.9 because all the other tf dont mean shit. in this area atm,,
if we pop north some.. it may just be the continuation wedge under construction upper tl test. 1h..atm this h at 4287/88
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #471,094
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:47pm Jun 23, 2011 9:47pm
Quoting OldQuant
Well first, your phrasing reminds me of a scene in Monte Python and the Holy Grail:

[size="1"]Sir Bedevere: “There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: “Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: “Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: “Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: “And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: “More witches.
Peasant 2: “Wood.
Sir Bedevere: “Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: “...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: “Good. So how do you tell whether she is made...
You know maybe it is late here after 10pm or your writing is very sarcastic for me ,or you don't understand what I am trying to say, which is very possible , because English is not my first or even second language,but this conversation between us is over
  • #471,095
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:48pm Jun 23, 2011 9:48pm
Quoting 10piptrade
Well thanks for your reply, it was a discussion last night between you and 2+2=4 i think re naked charts and MA and indicators and something came up about automative trading.So i just ask on that bases
Yes, that was just when my Internet went out. The discussion was not finished.

The advantage of automated trading is that it can "never sleep," so it never misses a signal according to a set of programmed rules. But the very fact my Internet went out was a perfect example of one of the major issues: if you have a program making trades for you, then while you sleep, if something happens to your connection, your position can be "stuck" without anyone watching. Sure, the solution to that is stops, but stops which only fire when the system is not active and monitoring the market. (Those are called SoLaR, or stops of last resort, by the way). But there is a subsystem right there. One of many subsystems, all of which must communicate with each other and respond correctly to each others' events.

The point is, automated trading is not something that can be done without detailed planning, development, computer and network resources, and programming resources. It is, in most definitions, beyond what is normally entailed in EA's as I understand them.
  • #471,096
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:50pm Jun 23, 2011 9:50pm
Quoting attila
We'll see what happens. I have this hour high at 78 with a close at 47. low is 44. these numbers are just guides should be taken with a grain of salt. 4316 is what matters, but the way it goes we might have to wait for london for that.
A member of the RBA will speak at 10:30PM Eastern might get some action then, and the 1-2 am Eastern stop run might wrap it up
Following the current trend
  • #471,097
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:51pm Jun 23, 2011 9:51pm
Quoting sofia101
You know maybe it is late here after 10pm or your writing is very sarcastic for me ,or you don't understand what I am trying to say, which is very possible , because English is not my first or even second language,but this conversation between us is over
No, no, no! I was not being sarcastic. I was trying to be funny, and that is one of my favorite funny films. My answer to you was not sarcastic, and, I think, responded as best I could to what you asked.

Please forgive my joke if you feel it was inappropriate. It was not directed at you, and, perhaps was culturally inappropriate. For that I do apologize.
  • #471,098
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:53pm Jun 23, 2011 9:53pm
Quoting 10piptrade
A member of the RBA will speak at 10:30PM Eastern might get some action then, and the 1-2 am Eastern stop run might wrap it up
I hope somebody drops the sushi and starts pushing buttons either way just to get it out of this range.
  • #471,099
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:53pm Jun 23, 2011 9:53pm
Quoting OldQuant
No, no, no! I was not being sarcastic. I was trying to be funny, and that is one of my favorite funny films. My answer to you was not sarcastic, and, I think, responded as best I could to what you asked.

Please forgive my joke if you feel it was inappropriate. It was not directed at you, and, perhaps was culturally inappropriate. For that I do apologize.
Way ta go dude...



Yer a real hit with the chix huh?
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  • #471,100
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:54pm Jun 23, 2011 9:54pm
Quoting attila
I hope somebody drops the sushi and starts pushing buttons either way just to get it out of this range.
Yeah, trapped between daily roll and weekly roll sux...specially on a week where this bitch has played with no boundaries....
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