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  • #21
  • Jun 22, 2011 5:39pm Jun 22, 2011 5:39pm
I sent you a PM

hope you find time to look

Peter
  • #22
  • Jun 23, 2011 8:30am Jun 23, 2011 8:30am
Standard MT4 ADX indicator with true OTF/MTF functionality
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File Type: ex4 !Ultra ADX.ex4   13 KB | 2,047 downloads
  • #23
  • Jun 23, 2011 9:44am Jun 23, 2011 9:44am
Hello,

Thanks for your hard work ! Your indicators are very great ! Do you realize what you achieve WOOW !

I see a problem of repainting in colored stoch, don't know if this is normal or not.

When i reactualise the indic, some portion of blue disappeared and it was all red : REPAINT !

Please check it, or tell me if i'm wrong .

Thanks
  • #24
  • Jun 23, 2011 10:17am Jun 23, 2011 10:17am
Hi Crashout

These indicators build the other timeframe internally.

On a standard indicator, MT4 holds the last bar that it received a tick for, because these are specialized it doesn't hold such a value

Therefore if there is a disconnect from the broker (or you are running a lot cpu intensive operations and MT4 can't process all the ticks) a normal indicator can handle this, however as these indicators cannot use the standard recovery options available it can cause the internal data to be corrupted, hence giving invalid values.

At the moment I am trying to think of a solution so that the indicator realizes when it is using corrupted data and automatically perform a refresh, I have an idea for a solution but testing it is proving difficult as I can't get MT4 to cause the corruption when I want.

Regards, John



Quoting crashout
Hello,

Thanks for your hard work ! Your indicators are very great ! Do you realize what you achieve WOOW !

I see a problem of repainting in colored stoch, don't know if this is normal or not.

When i reactualise the indic, some portion of blue disappeared and it was all red : REPAINT !

Please check it, or tell me if i'm wrong .

Thanks
  • #25
  • Jun 23, 2011 11:06am Jun 23, 2011 11:06am
Thanks for the fast answer.

I understand better now It is already very impressive what you have done.

THANKS !

PS : if you want a tester you can PM me for sure. Or use the gbpjpy, it has a lot of moves.
  • #26
  • Jun 23, 2011 12:24pm Jun 23, 2011 12:24pm
Hi JMW,
Nice work, and thanks. There may be an alternate way to calculate the interpolation. It should avoid the corruption and extensive calculations that you describe, but I have not found a way to generalize.

The method involves keeping a set of arrays for the pertinent variables, and then using those arrays in a normal calculation. e.g. to calculate the ATR you need the High,Low, Close. So to calculate the H1 ATR for display at M5 intervals you need 12 High arrays, 12 Low arrays and the M5 Close. In each of the High arrays you keep the highest high for the last 12 M5 bars, etc. The arrays must be synced to the particlar M5 interval in the hour, so that an ATR calculation using a specific array always displays at the right time.

This method has the advantage that each interpolated point uses the same amount of data.. a sliding window of constant size. It has the disadvantage that a new indicator must be written for each TF ratio, and the bar-sync logic must change for each of these.

I wonder whether you considered this approach and discarded it for the approach you have taken? I am about to give up on this, and simply wait for your excellent indicators.
  • #27
  • Jun 23, 2011 12:51pm Jun 23, 2011 12:51pm
Hi MadCow

I tried lots of different methods for the interpolation

In the end this was the best solution I found, and it works fine until there is a disconnect or for some other reason it misses some important ticks (most important one being the very last tick of a bar)

Also with this method, one indicator works for all timeframes and also allows me to take advantage of when MQL already provides a iXXXOnArray function.

My proposed solution is coded in test, I have it running on my MT4 and at some point a corruption should occur, and my indicator should fix it

Hopefully within the next 24hrs I will get confirmation of this fix working, once it does - the 4 indicators currently available will be re-uploaded with the fix

P.S. Thanks though for "thinking outside the box" in trying to help me with a solution, as a prize let me know if there is a particular indicator you want "Ultra-ing"

Regards
John

Quoting MadCow
Hi JMW,
Nice work, and thanks. There may be an alternate way to calculate the interpolation. It should avoid the corruption and extensive calculations that you describe, but I have not found a way to generalize.

The method involves keeping a set of arrays for the pertinent variables, and then using those arrays in a normal calculation. e.g. to calculate the ATR you need the High,Low, Close. So to calculate the H1 ATR for display at M5 intervals you need 12 High arrays, 12 Low arrays and the M5 Close. In each of the High arrays you keep the highest...
  • #28
  • Jun 23, 2011 1:46pm Jun 23, 2011 1:46pm
GANN HILO will be great.

Tomorrow i will post the bar subwindow version.

But for now time to spent some money, eat and party, who come with me in Paris ?
  • #29
  • Jun 24, 2011 3:05am Jun 24, 2011 3:05am
Hey,

Just give you the normal gann hilo activator version, because the bar version i have is copyrighted.

It is very powerfull indicator, and with your magic and with the tma true, you know what i mean
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  • #30
  • Jun 26, 2011 10:37am Jun 26, 2011 10:37am
LOL ... I'm already in Paris ... just let me know when you are here :-D


Quoting crashout
GANN HILO will be great.

Tomorrow i will post the bar subwindow version.

But for now time to spent some money, eat and party, who come with me in Paris ?
"A goal without a plan is just a wish" - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
  • #31
  • Edited 2:12am Jul 4, 2011 1:59am | Edited 2:12am
Quoting jmw1970
Hi MadCow

I tried lots of different methods for the interpolation

In the end this was the best solution I found, and it works fine until there is a disconnect or for some other reason it misses some important ticks (most important one being the very last tick of a bar)

Also with this method, one indicator works for all timeframes and also allows me to take advantage of when MQL already provides a iXXXOnArray function.

My proposed solution is coded in test, I have it running on my MT4 and at some point a corruption should occur, and my indicator...

Great idea think this has been going on for a couple years elsewhere, the multi timeframe usually making the indicator smoother then can cut down on other smoothing to reduce lag. This indicator using hourly values on 15 minute chart. Showing the ultra version alongside non ultra.
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  • #32
  • Edited Aug 13, 2011 8:43am Aug 12, 2011 11:11am | Edited Aug 13, 2011 8:43am
TMA Indicator with "ultra" OTF/MTF functionality

NOTE: This is based on the non-repainting version of TMA, sometimes referred to as TMA True

THERE WAS A BUG IN THE ATR CALCULATION OF THE PREVIOUSLY UPLOADED VERSION, ANYONE WHO DOWNLOADED THE VERSION PRIOR TO THE LAST EDITED DATE OF THIS POST SHOULD RE-DOWNLOAD
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File Type: ex4 !Ultra TMA.ex4   11 KB | 2,082 downloads
  • #33
  • Aug 12, 2011 12:58pm Aug 12, 2011 12:58pm
Hello John,

Is this conception possible for create a bollinger bands indi, like 1 hour bands but it overlays on 15 min timeframe, really appreicate it.

Thanks

Mike
  • #34
  • Aug 12, 2011 1:56pm Aug 12, 2011 1:56pm
Hi Mike

yes, it's just a case of me finding the time to do them

the idea is that by the end all standard mt4 indicators will be done, as well as a few of the more popular "custom" ones

Keep on checking back every so often for updates

Regards, John

Quoting Zkf
Hello John,

Is this conception possible for create a bollinger bands indi, like 1 hour bands but it overlays on 15 min timeframe, really appreicate it.

Thanks

Mike
  • #35
  • Aug 13, 2011 2:15am Aug 13, 2011 2:15am
Thank you, John.
  • #36
  • Aug 13, 2011 8:48am Aug 13, 2011 8:48am
Bollinger Bands with Ultra OTF/MTF functionality
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File Type: ex4 !Ultra Bollinger Bands.ex4   11 KB | 2,011 downloads
  • #37
  • Aug 15, 2011 3:15am Aug 15, 2011 3:15am
wow,

Thank you John, you're hero!
  • #38
  • Aug 15, 2011 3:34am Aug 15, 2011 3:34am
Hello,

Can anyone guide me for the MTF CCI indiactor??

Thanks in advance.

Umpats
  • #39
  • Sep 1, 2011 9:43am Sep 1, 2011 9:43am
! Now we want all ! , could be possible a Ultra version of Deanīs TDI from this MTF base indi ?
only if you have time of course . . . Itīs amazing your work
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File Type: mq4 TDI-MTF-zz.mq4   4 KB | 1,367 downloads
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  • #40
  • Oct 12, 2011 7:45pm Oct 12, 2011 7:45pm
Quoting jmw1970
Hi MadCow

I tried lots of different methods for the interpolation

...
Hi John

Thanks for Your hard work and sharp thinking. I tried to accomplish something like MadCow in a MTF MACD indicator, but got stuck as my programming knowledge is still limited as well as my time. See http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=300820

In reply to MadCows suggestion about a sliding window wouldn't it be possible to write a MTF indicator (covering all timeframe ratios) using the modulus function as in my post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...52#post4737752.

Reference timeframe or higher timeframe as an external parameter:
external integer TimeFrame

...and using the modulus function:
So if delta = TimeFrame/Period()
Then we can test the condition:

if (bar % delta == 0)
All the bars that will return true to this condition should be included in the new MTF array used for the MACD (or other MTF indicator) calculation.

If the chart timeframe is M5 and the higher reference timeframe is H1, then
delta = 60/5 = 12

if (bar % delta == 0) would then return the bars at shift 0, 12, 24, 36, 48 etc. because only these numbers will return a whole number when divided by 12 (delta). Any other bar (eg. bar 37) will return a decimal number when divided by 12.

I hope this suggestion can be of use to You - now or later...

Cheers
Tomas
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