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  • #21,961
  • Jun 21, 2011 9:57am Jun 21, 2011 9:57am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Sent out Sonic Scout, ES1 = 1.6213.
GU:

Placed 2nd SS order.....pending another BB pump.
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  • #21,962
  • Edited 10:22am Jun 21, 2011 9:59am | Edited 10:22am
Quoting sonicdeejay
relax..bro...

as far as I remember..I am making $$ from Long EU..not shorting on EU..fore these few days..

The chart has the answer..


Sonic

p.s we are on the opposite sides,,,again..
Well, the chart says the price has been in a 75ish pip range all day. You and I are both simply waiting for a range breaking move.

Looking at the P/VA relationship, it sure looks like a prolonged leg 2 of another WAVE is underway, which has increasing volume as price rose. And it has has sustained high volume at the highs. Both upside runs today have been with increasing volume, And the volume spikes on the two runs down look more like selloffs. M30 shows this well.

But, of course, only the BBs know what is coming......another pump, or a precipitous fall.
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  • #21,963
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:21am Jun 21, 2011 10:21am
Quoting traderathome
Well, the chart says the price has been in a 75ish pip range all day. You and I are both simply waiting for a range breaking move.

Looking at the P/VA relationship, it sure looks like a prolonged WAVE leg 2 is underway, which has increasing volume as prise rose. And it has has sustained high volume at the highs. M30 shows this well.

But, of course, only the BBs know what is coming......another pump, or a precipitous fall.
I have two scenarios (always), let me show you the bull case. See comments on the pic.
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Mind the gap
  • #21,964
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:25am Jun 21, 2011 10:25am
Quoting traderathome
Well, the chart says the price has been in a 75ish pip range all day. You and I are both simply waiting for a range breaking move.

Looking at the P/VA relationship, it sure looks like a prolonged leg 2 of another WAVE is underway, which has increasing volume as price rose. And it has has sustained high volume at the highs. Both upside runs today have been with increasing volume, And the volume spikes on the two runs down look more like selloffs. M30 shows this well.

But, of course, only the BBs know what is coming......another pump, or...
Pump or dump,, or pump and pump or dump..

You ain't trading sonic r at all..
If it is considered SS, I advice do not add losing SS position,, as far as I remember,. Abt 24 hrs ago, u send Short SS and if it holds it should give u -80 pips now..

Again,, it is ur $$, not mine

Sonic
  • #21,965
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:28am Jun 21, 2011 10:28am
Nite guy, enough for me tonite..

I have 2 longs . 1@ 200 pips and another @45 pips.. Both SL @ BE..

Trade safe fellas..

Sonic
  • #21,966
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:34am Jun 21, 2011 10:34am
Quoting Sunbrella
I have two scenarios (always), let me show you the bull case. See comments on the pic.
Sunbrella, the simple rule on divergence is....."bottoms up, tops down".

This means if the bottoms (of PA vs MACD peaks) are going in opposite directions, expect price to eventually move up. If the tops (of PA vs MACD peaks) are going in opposite directions, expect price to eventually move down.

In this case, the tops of PA and the tops of MACD disagree, hence a move down. The bottoms of both agree, hence no effect and can be ignored.
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  • #21,967
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:38am Jun 21, 2011 10:38am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Pump or dump,, or pump and pump or dump..

You ain't trading sonic r at all..
If it is considered SS, I advice do not add losing SS position,, as far as I remember,. Abt 24 hrs ago, u send Short SS and if it holds it should give u -80 pips now..

Again,, it is ur $$, not mine

Sonic
Sonic, PA is tracking my prediction:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post4704726


I am not worried about the drive up to the whole number. I might add another SS short here.....thinking about it.
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  • #21,968
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:41am Jun 21, 2011 10:41am
Quoting traderathome
Sunbrella, the simple rule on divergence is....."bottoms up, tops down".

This means if the bottoms (of PA vs MACD peaks) are going in opposite directions, expect price to eventually move up. If the tops (of PA vs MACD peaks) are going in opposite directions, expect price to eventually move down.

In this case, the tops of PA and the tops of MACD disagree, hence a move down. The bottoms of both agree, hence no effect and can be ignored.
You are wrong (or you don't know all type of divergences). To be short: occures when PA makes HLs while MACD makes LLs. Believe me, I'm right (one of the best predictor for long set-ups).

For a more detailed explanation check one of the results:
http://www.google.hu/search?client=o...hannel=suggest
Mind the gap
  • #21,969
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:46am Jun 21, 2011 10:46am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Placed 2nd SS order.....pending another BB pump.
GU:

Pending order executed, adding ES2 = 1.6233.
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  • #21,970
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:52am Jun 21, 2011 10:52am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Pending order executed, adding ES2 = 1.6233.

hi TAH

i followed you in the last two years.
very good your work until now

sonicdj is correct............ you don't trade following sonic rules
your trading will be profitable BUT with your scout i think you let many traders enter in the wrong side.

sorry for my english

i'm sorry. you WERE an excellent trader

regards
maurizio
  • #21,971
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:53am Jun 21, 2011 10:53am
Quoting Sunbrella
You are wrong (or you don't know all type of divergences). To be short: occures when PA makes HLs while MACD makes LLs. Believe me, I'm right (one of the best predictor for long set-ups).

For a more detailed explanation check one of the results:
http://www.google.hu/search?client=o...hannel=suggest
Sunbrella, here it is made easy. When tops disagree, price goes down. When bottoms disagree, price goes up:

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...5&d=1228757312

Bottoms up, tops down.
  • #21,972
  • Jun 21, 2011 10:59am Jun 21, 2011 10:59am
Quoting traderathome
Sunbrella, here it is made easy. When tops disagree, price goes up. When bottoms disagree, price goes down:

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...5&d=1228757312
The same pic but closer. Is it clear now what I'm talking about?
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Mind the gap
  • #21,973
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:00am Jun 21, 2011 11:00am
Quoting mauroby
hi TAH

i followed you in the last two years.
very good your work until now

sonicdj is correct............ you don't trade following sonic rules
your trading will be profitable BUT with your scout i think you let many traders enter in the wrong side.

sorry for my english

i'm sorry. you WERE an excellent trader

regards
maurizio
Maurizio, my Sonic Scout entries are not perfect. I take both price relative to S&R and also volume into account. But no one can guarantee the price won't get some additional shoving after such an entry is made. That is the risk associated with SS trading, and such is the case many times.

Thank you for the compliment, but I never considered myself to be an excellent trader, nor have I ever represented myself as such.
  • #21,974
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:02am Jun 21, 2011 11:02am
Quoting Sunbrella
The same pic but closer. Is it clear now what I'm talking about?
Yes, I see that. You are on too low a TF for this to be much meaningful in any big way. Besides, the move such fortells has already happened by the price being driven up to the whole number.

The price reversal being foretold by the H1 divergence is going to be more substantial. It is this price reversal that my recent entries of various pairs is considering. I do not use divergence. It is not SonicR. But it does harbinger the same price future as I am considering.
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  • #21,975
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:05am Jun 21, 2011 11:05am
Quoting traderathome
Yes, I see that. You are on too low a TF for this to be much meaningful in any big way.
What if you see the same on H4 or D1 e.g...
Mind the gap
  • #21,976
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:12am Jun 21, 2011 11:12am
Quoting Sunbrella
What if you see the same on H4 or D1 e.g...
On the Daily tops agree.....bottoms agree, so no sign of divergence. On H4 the bottoms diverge, hence a move up.....which, btw, has just happened. I see the H1 as the first TF large enough to be meaninful, that is showing the next divergence story.

H1 also shows PA just completed a FR 50% retrace on the move down that started back around June 7th. And today, and in my opinion as a head fake, the BBs pumped it the small extra way to the upper whole number "area".

Hey, it might go higher. But at this point in the retrace I'd rather add SS shorts than go long.
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  • #21,977
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:15am Jun 21, 2011 11:15am
Quoting traderathome
Maurizio, my Sonic Scout entries are not perfect. I take both price relative to S&R and also volume into account. But no one can guarantee the price won't get some additional shoving after such an entry is made. That is the risk associated with SS trading, and such is the case many times.

Thank you for the compliment, but I never considered myself to be an excellent trader, nor have I ever represented myself as such.

thanks for your gentle reply
i learned many features of sonic rules from you
sonic rules are fantastic and you give the best of you trading in such way

scout is very dangerous
all of my consideration
maurizio
  • #21,978
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:19am Jun 21, 2011 11:19am
I'm a little confused, is there more than one trading strategy with the SonicR trading system ? Please excuse me if I don't know as im going thru the trend backwards and trying to figure out how it works
  • #21,979
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:32am Jun 21, 2011 11:32am
EU:

Look at the current P/V story......
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  • #21,980
  • Jun 21, 2011 11:32am Jun 21, 2011 11:32am
End of divergence discussion
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