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  • #460,481
  • Jun 12, 2011 6:36pm Jun 12, 2011 6:36pm
Rubbish last week, still beating the bank though. Not really enough to justify the effort/ time/ energy.

Anyway a new week awaits.

ATB
  • #460,482
  • Jun 12, 2011 6:41pm Jun 12, 2011 6:41pm
Still net bearish on Euro near-medium near, always long term USD bear.

Euro may have the least worst this week.

Personal sentiment is to long pre-TK open!!?!?? with tight SL

ha ha
  • #460,483
  • Jun 12, 2011 6:43pm Jun 12, 2011 6:43pm
Morning all....
gonna go out in the day time..
may come back before london session...

seems we break the 1.4320 support this morning...
hmmm...looking to sell more...
asain session maybe a retracement..
Patience, Emotion Control and Discipline.
  • #460,484
  • Jun 12, 2011 6:58pm Jun 12, 2011 6:58pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
I miss the days when I traded on the floor. Three numbers, yesterdays high, yesterday low, and the settlement, time to go to work....
If you miss it soo much why are you not still working their? Just wondering.....
I don't trust any move - when you have profit...take it.
  • #460,485
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:00pm Jun 12, 2011 7:00pm
Jeez guys.... where do you keep finding all the loonies for this thread from? This has been quite an aggressive week in terms of the morons showing.
  • #460,486
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:01pm Jun 12, 2011 7:01pm
Quoting Faller
If you miss it soo much why are you not still working their? Just wondering.....
Times have changed just a wee bit. lol.

Do people still pit trade? If so, I wouldn't mind taking a trip for a gander some time...
  • #460,487
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:04pm Jun 12, 2011 7:04pm
Quoting Venice
Times have changed just a wee bit. lol.

Do people still pit trade? If so, I wouldn't mind taking a trip for a gander some time...
True dat brother...

I miss banging 16 year olds...

Things ya can do when yer young and opportunities just aren't the same when ya start rolling outa da teens...
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #460,488
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:07pm Jun 12, 2011 7:07pm
1x12
  • #460,489
  • Edited 7:35pm Jun 12, 2011 7:22pm | Edited 7:35pm
Quoting dashlat
Long
nice bro i was waiting for a retest of 4319 and we got it to the pip...looks good
  • #460,490
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:29pm Jun 12, 2011 7:29pm
Quoting PayTheLimit
I'm curious as to why it is you feel that target needs an epic event. Are you implying that the support under here is so strong. Are you using a 2008 type configuration to determine that important support. BTW, I'll have to double check my charts, but there seems to be a rollover gap from 87.85 to 91.14, but I'm afraid I dont know how accurate my data is, ie dont know when and if the rollover was ploted correctly.
yes its strong.. a ten year chart. but is took many candles to cross.. even on a monthly tf. these broken crosses are usually temporary (they dont hold). copper is still slipping. distillate inventories are up in the us. while trade exports are up. both help the usd. distillates up mean less demand (fuel). the law of supply verses demand kicks in. at the same time oil inventories are lower. evidently the u.s. is using more oil to make crap and not burning it in the tank. evident in export increase even as oil has risen. the u.s. demand for oil helping the price is in manufacturing. at the same time wallmart(china) is falling (u.s. buying less cheap crap from china through wallmart). evident in the bailout china is doing (QE).. at the same time u.s. is stopping QE...
every fiber in industry is connected to oil. oil has gone down since treiciet did not raise last time. then we had this bull shit spike in anticipation of a hike in july. as oil got cheaper. the economy will not support 4per gallon gas in the u.s. yet. so we slip. we slipped just below 4$ @ 3.98...

all gas spikes since the 70ties have been the cause of all recessions. the price stays in the system 2 years. we just had one of those spikes around Nov till now.. when we got over 86$ and stayed for 7 months. we have still not healed from 2008. it took 10 years and a world war to get out the one 80 years ago. the world was bankrupt after. come to think about it they were bankrupt before. something seems familiar here. hey the u.s. was bombed over oil.. the common denominator.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #460,491
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:39pm Jun 12, 2011 7:39pm
Long with SL 4325

tp 1 4412
tp 2 4466
tp 3 4553
  • #460,492
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:42pm Jun 12, 2011 7:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
yes its strong.. a ten year chart. but is took many candles to cross.. even on a monthly tf. these broken crosses are usually temporary (they dont hold). copper is still slipping. distillate inventories are up in the us. while trade exports are up. both help the usd. distillates up mean less demand (fuel). the law of supply verses demand kicks in. at the same time oil inventories are lower. evidently the u.s. is using more oil to make crap and not burning it in the tank. evident in export increase even as oil has risen. the u.s. demand for oil...
Very well said Gator. I really hope we, as the US, can get our shit in line this time around. If not, we always have the next collapse.

Personally, right now a solid strategically placed nuke that only affects politicians would do wonders right now IMO.
  • #460,493
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:45pm Jun 12, 2011 7:45pm
Quoting hindustani
Long with SL 4325

tp 1 4412
tp 2 4466
tp 3 4553

long at 4325
sl 4299
tp1 4394
tp2 4448
tp3 4511
  • #460,494
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:48pm Jun 12, 2011 7:48pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
yeah, that's what strikes me odd. the number, I am usually referring to is 4005.7

the level at 4057 is obvious, but still... it came up somewhere else. I'm getting old, I think...
last weeks mapa was 57.. this weeks atm 52 and any 02 # as minor.. whole number traders will say its because of sike level 50 and 00...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #460,495
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:48pm Jun 12, 2011 7:48pm
Quoting hindustani
Long with SL 4325

tp 1 4412
tp 2 4466
tp 3 4553
trailing 15 set, lets see how far we go.
  • #460,496
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:53pm Jun 12, 2011 7:53pm
Quoting shivas
1x12
Can you show us your entry, please?
  • #460,497
  • Jun 12, 2011 7:57pm Jun 12, 2011 7:57pm
Quoting gatorinla
last weeks mapa was 57.. this weeks atm 52 and any 02 # as minor.. whole number traders will say its because of sike level 50 and 00...
i still don't know, what mapa actually is...
  • #460,498
  • Jun 12, 2011 8:01pm Jun 12, 2011 8:01pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...64#post4679864

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...8&d=1307675710

H4 : Retracement 50 %
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  • #460,499
  • Jun 12, 2011 8:09pm Jun 12, 2011 8:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
any way i have newer figures that agree with 4277.9.. they are to close to discount. 4278.3 is one the other...you can look back (last week).. im too lazy but i had a mofu that pointed to 42xx, the same area also..
i had some targets beyond 427X also.. they are also valid... now we should bounce in the 427x area.. but i don't know what will happen. if we have a unbroken candle from the open till a close below 4278.3 it looks like 3946.9.. if this close is below 4234 with the unbroken candle. 3946.9 is a lot more likely.

a bounce...
4259
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #460,500
  • Jun 12, 2011 8:22pm Jun 12, 2011 8:22pm
Quoting Kambooj
I wouldnt disagree with you.

Most of the time I just judge for equality or relatively equal.

I once took a measurement using a engineering ruler on paper and really had a hard time finding perfect fibonacci relationship between time. The relations were mostly around 72%, 89%, 92%, 30%, some turned out to be 38.2% fibonacci

Glenn Neely, the famous Elliotician once said that after 25 years of studying the market seldom the market retraces to perfect fibonacci levels.


Hi Kambooj,

Prechter found, that there is a good fib relationship inside of waves, but bad fib relationship between different waves.

EW and fib, out of my experience is most of the time so, that there is a certain fib relationship, but you are not able to determine, which fib level will be reached.

Elliott himself found, that time or fib time is a bad /low probability thing to look at when using EW.
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