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  • #20,941
  • May 24, 2011 10:34am May 24, 2011 10:34am
UCad:

Is this ready to break up? So far today, it has ranged tightly. Now, PA is starting to build higher lows. There is still 60 pips left to go in its average range, so maybe a run higher after the London session closes.....?

If not today, perhaps then tomorrow it will break its range.
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  • #20,942
  • May 24, 2011 10:39am May 24, 2011 10:39am
Quoting kimis
yes. but if H4/D1 candles are opened not by common UTC time, which is equal for all brokers, but by broker's "local" time, than one trader will see h4 candle open at 12AM GMT, other at 2PM GMT, and third one at 10AM. Daily candle may open for one at 1AM GMT, and for other at 23PM. I believe there shouldn't be such things at all and same candles should open and close at very same time on all brokers, no matter what time zone, planet or galaxy they are
Alpari (UK) use London OffSet ...

but you are right - that is one more option that I missed too in mt4.

e
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #20,943
  • May 24, 2011 10:43am May 24, 2011 10:43am
EJ:

I am looking to send out a SS at ES3= 116.23. The current PA looks like a Bear Channel. And the US session BBs might, once the London BBs leave, spike the price up higher to "distribute" unwanted longs to other traders that have shorts with SLs within reach of the spike. Then, of course, they can start building their own short positions at the higher prices.

If such a spike occurs today, it will be interesting if a SonicR VSA "rising volume" bar, or a "stopping volume" bar show up.

Note that on the H4 chart, the Trend line is converging with the upper 1/4 number area that is targeted for ES3.
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  • #20,944
  • May 24, 2011 10:58am May 24, 2011 10:58am
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

I am looking to send out a SS at ES3= 116.23. The current PA looks like a Bear Channel. And the US session BBs might, once the London BBs leave, spike the price up higher to "distribute" unwanted longs to other traders that have shorts with SLs within reach of the spike. Then, of course, they can start building their own short positions at the higher prices.

If such a spike occurs today, it will be interesting if a SonicR VSA "rising volume" bar, or a "stopping volume" bar show up.

Note that on the H4 chart, the Trend line is converging...
okay - I understand very nice idea TAH - that is the best one - I think - I will code it soon and will load it up tonight.

Rest -> small gray
Blue -> mid blue
Climax -> fat red/green

very nice that I must say.

e
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #20,945
  • Edited 11:53am May 24, 2011 11:25am | Edited 11:53am
Quoting enigma4x
okay - I understand very nice idea TAH - that is the best one - I think - I will code it soon and will load it up tonight.

Rest -> small gray
Blue -> mid blue
Climax -> fat red/green

very nice that I must say.

e
It is already coded, enigma. And it can be used two ways, differring in the colors used for the Dragon and trend. One way, simply switch MT4 from "candle" to "bar" display (pic.1). The other way, leave it on "candle" (pic.2).

I already coded a version to paint the non-specific candles gray (and other colors were tried). It does not have a good appearance at all! It is best to just paint the rising and the climax formula bars, and display "bars" or "candles".

This new SonicR VSA Candles indicator can produce both pics below.....just change the MT4 bar/candle setting, and change the inputs for the SonicR Dragon-Trend indicator.

The work in coding this indicator is already completed!

Regards,
-tah
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  • #20,946
  • May 24, 2011 12:28pm May 24, 2011 12:28pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

I am looking to send out a SS at ES3= 116.23. The current PA looks like a Bear Channel. And the US session BBs might, once the London BBs leave, spike the price up higher to "distribute" unwanted longs to other traders that have shorts with SLs within reach of the spike. Then, of course, they can start building their own short positions at the higher prices.

If such a spike occurs today, it will be interesting if a SonicR VSA "rising volume" bar, or a "stopping volume" bar show up.

Note that on the H4 chart, the Trend line is converging...
EJ:

The common result of a Bear Channel is now happening. My attempt at ES3 failed; I placed it 8 pips too high. PA is again too close to ES2 to consider a third short entry now, but I will leave the ES3 order as is.

Maybe the asian BBs will accomdate with another drive up, a bit higher? I don't imagine so, but we never know. If there is an asian session drive up, but not looking that strong, I might lower the ES3 attempt to just below the whole number.
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  • #20,947
  • May 24, 2011 12:48pm May 24, 2011 12:48pm
Quoting Sunbrella
Further long maybe in jeopardy. Currently we can treat this choppy overlapping PA starting from the yesterday bottom as a corrective move, even if it goes slightly higher than indicated yesterday. From my EWT based point of view this correction will be followed by a final impulsive move down and will hit a new bottom probably (or double bottom as a minimum).
Sunbrella, your contribution to the thread is much appreciated. However, I have a request to make. Since a main purpose of the thread is to be a "course" of the Sonic R. System, we all want posts to be informative, and the attached charts to be accurately annotated, so that everything is as crystal clear as possible.

For this purpose, the SonicR Chart Panel was created. When appearing on charts, readers do not have to hunt and squint to decipher what pair, and what TF the chart is for!

For example, in your posted chart the reader has to hunt for the information that gives a clue what pair and TF it concerns! This is not making the learning process easy for Sonikers reading to learn. And it does not do justice to the value and purpose of your post, which might be passed over as "too confusing/uninformative" to bother with. By contrast, I have included my chart, which I think shows the pair ID, TF and PA area you were discussing. See the difference in the ease with which chart information can be seen and understood?

So, please post charts with very clear Symbol and TF, as well as very clear annotations.

Thank you for your contributions and cooperation.

Regards,
-tah
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  • #20,948
  • May 24, 2011 1:33pm May 24, 2011 1:33pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

The common result of a Bear Channel is now happening. My attempt at ES3 failed; I placed it 8 pips too high. PA is again too close to ES2 to consider a third short entry now, but I will leave the ES3 order as is.

Maybe the asian BBs will accomdate with another drive up, a bit higher? I don't imagine so, but we never know. If there is an asian session drive up, but not looking that strong, I might lower the ES3 attempt to just below the whole number.
hi TAH,

u jus amaze me. u are just perfectly good if i can use that kind of english. congratulations TAH. your trades are great. i followed ur SS on GU today and bank 60 pips. thank you very much. am still learning this system. is just great. if i was around computer i would have traded the EJ bear channel too. thanks.

keep up the good work.
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  • #20,949
  • May 24, 2011 2:49pm May 24, 2011 2:49pm
Quoting traderathome
Sunbrella, your contribution to the thread is much appreciated. However, I have a request to make. Since a main purpose of the thread is to be a "course" of the Sonic R. System, we all want posts to be informative, and the attached charts to be accurately annotated, so that everything is as crystal clear as possible...

...

So, please post charts with very clear Symbol and TF, as well as very clear annotations.

Thank you for your contributions and cooperation.

Regards,
-tah
Sorry for that TAH, you are right. Both these images have been modified and annotated now in the original posts.

The problem for me is that my notebook display has 1920x1200 resolution, so if I want to point out any details of the screen clearly visible (like in this case), I have to zoom/cut out that portion of the screenshot to make it visible as an attachment - or reduce the selected chartwindow size each time I want to post any screenshot.

But you are right, I forgot to show clear symbol and TF, I pay more attention next time.
Mind the gap
  • #20,950
  • May 24, 2011 3:11pm May 24, 2011 3:11pm
Quoting traderathome
It is already coded, enigma. And it can be used two ways, differring in the colors used for the Dragon and trend. One way, simply switch MT4 from "candle" to "bar" display (pic.1). The other way, leave it on "candle" (pic.2).

I already coded a version to paint the non-specific candles gray (and other colors were tried). It does not have a good appearance at all! It is best to just paint the rising and the climax formula bars, and display "bars" or "candles".

This new SonicR VSA Candles indicator can produce both pics below.....just...




great realy great u are the man and greatest yessss



thank u for you great idea


e
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #20,951
  • May 24, 2011 8:04pm May 24, 2011 8:04pm
Quoting traderathome
GU:

Sent out a SS at ES1= 1.6194 on basis of price near whole number S&R area, and the stopping volume candle that took price up to this area.
GU:

Early asian session trading looks bearish. Look at the SonicR VSA study. The first blue bar for volume that rose above average is for a candle with just seven pips high to low. That is very tight and high volume, which appears to be "loading up". Next a starting volume bar with PA dropping. Then another small candle on high volume....more loading up. And these followed by another high volume, high spread candle....the move is on. And it is down.

The Dragon is angled down. The Trend is also. And PA is below both now. I suspect the London session could do a pullup, but this sure looks bearish for the day.
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  • #20,952
  • May 24, 2011 9:06pm May 24, 2011 9:06pm
EU:

This too is starting off the day bearish. Yesterday PA was dragged up from the lower whole number to the upper whole number, where it made a high, low, then lower high. So far this session, it has been all down hill.

And look at the Daily,......a nice SonicR short setup.

Perhaps the London session will accomdate with a pullup and then a short setup with a higher entry short area.
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  • #20,953
  • May 24, 2011 9:12pm May 24, 2011 9:12pm
Quoting Sunbrella
Sorry for that TAH, you are right. Both these images have been modified and annotated now in the original posts.

The problem for me is that my notebook display has 1920x1200 resolution, so if I want to point out any details of the screen clearly visible (like in this case), I have to zoom/cut out that portion of the screenshot to make it visible as an attachment - or reduce the selected chartwindow size each time I want to post any screenshot.

But you are right, I forgot to show clear symbol and TF, I pay more attention next time.
Perhaps you can save a reduced chart window setting (1280 x1024, or the like) so that you can quickly grab it to make/save your chart pic to file for attachment to your post.
  • #20,954
  • May 24, 2011 9:32pm May 24, 2011 9:32pm
Quoting Bikefire
Hello at all, here speaks Austria!
As the first I would like to thank all writers in this forum and pronounce mine respekt. The Sonic R system functions very well! I follow the rules absolutely...... with the entrance point, use I the system THV (at the beginning of a wave)! Maybe it is a helpful idea also for other observers! I Trade currently only EUR/USD...

But now my question: it has every pair another rhythm...... which pairs one cannot use with the Sonic R system?

sorry for my bad bad englisch ....
Welcome, Bikefire. And congratulations on you use of the Sonic R. System.

What you refer to as the rhythm of a pair matters not with SonicR trading. SonicR will find both short and long setups regardless of trend or rhythm. That is to say, if trading is good, then SonicR will show a setup.....any pair, any rhythm, and regardless of trend. If the trading environment is poor (as with outside the London session usually), then there will be not setup, or it won't break and run well.
  • #20,955
  • May 24, 2011 9:46pm May 24, 2011 9:46pm
UChf:

Look at the Daily. This is just "itching" for a breakout and upwards run, a good upwards run! The first S&R above is 130 pips away.

On the M15, the Dragon is currently angled down, not up. PA might not do anything spectacular until the London session. I'd not be surprised to see PA drop further then......creating one of those improper L-H-LL sequences that precedes a breakout upwards.

RgH is in the area of the previous high, and about 100 pips away. And a good run up could be a range breaking run to that S&R on the Daily. That is in the area of the 1/4 number above the RgH/whole number area.
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  • #20,956
  • May 24, 2011 9:58pm May 24, 2011 9:58pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

The common result of a Bear Channel is now happening. My attempt at ES3 failed; I placed it 8 pips too high. PA is again too close to ES2 to consider a third short entry now, but I will leave the ES3 order as is.

Maybe the asian BBs will accomdate with another drive up, a bit higher? I don't imagine so, but we never know. If there is an asian session drive up, but not looking that strong, I might lower the ES3 attempt to just below the whole number.
EJ:

Well, my waiting ES3 isn't likely to happen. I'm cancelling it. Asian BBs popped price to top of range, then used the range to load up, then pulled the plug. Not to say that the London session BBs might not do a pullup, but this is looking quite bearish for the day.
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  • #20,957
  • May 24, 2011 10:22pm May 24, 2011 10:22pm
Quoting traderathome
UCad:

Is this ready to break up? So far today, it has ranged tightly. Now, PA is starting to build higher lows. There is still 60 pips left to go in its average range, so maybe a run higher after the London session closes.....?

If not today, perhaps then tomorrow it will break its range.
UCad:

Look at athe sequence of HLs on H4; just fantastic! And by the looks of recent PA, if price breaks the upper whole number it could result in a range breaking move up to the next higher whole number.

Perhaps the London session will accomodate with a wee biddy pullback down and then a breakout run up?
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  • #20,958
  • May 24, 2011 10:50pm May 24, 2011 10:50pm
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

The common result of a Bear Channel is now happening. My attempt at ES3 failed; I placed it 8 pips too high. PA is again too close to ES2 to consider a third short entry now, but I will leave the ES3 order as is.

Maybe the asian BBs will accomdate with another drive up, a bit higher? I don't imagine so, but we never know. If there is an asian session drive up, but not looking that strong, I might lower the ES3 attempt to just below the whole number.
TAH, it is quite interesting to your multi entiies on single pair. Would you share your money mangement? If you have mimimum risk of X% of capitial per trade, the lose of series of reentries would be substantial of total capital if prices continues go to un-desired direction.

Also do you set same SL, TP for these re-entries?

Thank you in advance and happy trading!
  • #20,959
  • Edited 12:34am May 25, 2011 12:18am | Edited 12:34am
Quoting enigma4x


great realy great u are the man and greatest yessss

thank u for you great idea

e
... no prob TAH - it was no work for me -

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  • #20,960
  • May 25, 2011 1:13am May 25, 2011 1:13am
Quoting traderathome
UChf:

Look at the Daily. This is just "itching" for a breakout and upwards run, a good upwards run! The first S&R above is 130 pips away.

On the M15, the Dragon is currently angled down, not up. PA might not do anything spectacular until the London session. I'd not be surprised to see PA drop further then......creating one of those improper L-H-LL sequences that precedes a breakout upwards.

RgH is in the area of the previous high, and about 100 pips away. And a good run up could be a range breaking run to that S&R on the Daily. That...
TAH,

very very very very impressive. i like!!!
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