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Quoting Knez
enigma,

I haven't follow this thread before, but I am interested to see what are your MA settings on the chart, please? Or can you point me of where to see settings for SonicR method of trading, as if I start to read it from beginning, I will probably finish some time in December

I will very much appreciate yours or anyone else help of the method setting.

Thank you.
Welcome to SonicR, Knez.

If you are serious about learning the Sonic R System, you MUST read the thread. The good news is that the first dozen or so posts by Sonicdeejay will give you a real good introduction.....those and read everything in Post #1 and linked in that post.

That is the introduction. The thread is the course, because it is filled with examples of SonicR trades, winners and losers. As you work thru the thread, you will see what worked, and what didn't.

The method is very simple. There are very few rules, and they are important. Mastery will likely be difficult, because it is human nature to add and complicate. Most everyone will, for a time, corrupt the elegantly simple Sonic R System with a bunch of useless garbage. Just look at the charts currently being posted; some are clean and simple, and some are anything but clean and simple.

The essence of SonicR is waiting for a PA WAVE to launch a run away from some S&R area, during the London session. The Dragon (34 ema lines) is only used to find an entry area. The Trend line (89 ema) is used by many in the forex trading world as the divider between bullish and bearish. It is used in SonicR, too, but is not required. The focus is on the PA WAVES, S&R, the Dragon, and the London session for trading.

As an example, look at the EU activity on Friday in the attached chart. The London session is marked with vertical lines (including the encompassed NY open). Understand that whole numbers (blue lines) and half numbers (green lines) are natural S&R areas. Friday, in the London session, the PA WAVE (light blue) rose towards the half number and then dived down thru the whole number. The Trend line was at the same area. So, when PA broke below both the whole number and the Trend line, with the Dragon angled down, it was a good SonicR short setup. An example entry is marked with a short dark red line. Later on, 150 pips lower, the price bounced at the half number S&R area. This was a good place to exit, marked with a short dark green line, since the SonicR VSA showed very high volume towards the end of the run down.....professional traders closing their short trades.

Hope this helps. But you really need to start reading.

Regards,
-tah
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Quoting missH
Thank you very much, enigma.
I will try to use the 'better volume' to analysis
The formula for "Climax" bars, whether up or down, whether white or red, is the same. The formula is the amount of volume X the spread of the candle. If the result of the comuptation for the current bar is greater than for any of the preceeding 20 bars, then the bar becomes labeled as a "climax" bar.

In Better Volume, if the close is <= the mid-candle it is painted white. If the close is > the mid-candle, it is painted red. ONLY ONE TENTH OF ONE SINGLE PIP CAN DETERMINE IF WHITE OR RED!!!!!!!!!!! Do you REALLY think those candles are an accurate depiction of "supply" or "demand", when JUST ONE TENTH OF A PIP can determine which way they get colored?????????

Red DOES NOT MEAN DEMAND IS COMING IN! It could be, if at the start of a run up. However, if nearer the top of a strong drive up, then the professional traders are SELLING, CREATING SUPPLY! By the way, this is precisely what Sonicdeejay refers to as "stopping volume".

White DOES NOT MEAN SUPPLY IS COMING IN! It could be, if at the start of a run down. However, if nearer the bottom of a strong drive down, then the professional traders are BUYING, CREATING DEMAND! By the way, this is precisely what Sonicdeejay refers to as "stopping volume".

I really don't care what volume indicator anybody chooses to use. I don't even care if ANY volume indicator is used! But, I am getting a little tired of misinformation being posted.

Regards,
-tah
Quoting samuelngugi
hi TAH, SONIC, engima, n sonicers,

i suceeded to get the volume with alert. thank. its the alert that was of. just one quick question, how do one interprate the dark blue bars rising n the grey bars. for the red and green i kind of understand the as stoping from previous postings. the sonic is just great n i want to learn this sytem completly. its just nice ans i enjoy reading ur posts. i cannot go a day without reading them. thank you guys.

just that one question on the bars pliz. thank you in advance
What do I find myself repeatedly having to say.......READ THE USER NOTES IN THE INDICATOR COMPILE!

Folks, please do co-operate in this. If you will just take the time to inform yourself with information already provided for your benefit, you will avoid having to ask others to give it to you twice!

Regards,
-tah
Quoting traderathome
Welcome to SonicR, Knez.

If you are serious about learning the Sonic R System, you MUST read the thread. The good news is that the first dozen or so posts by Sonicdeejay will give you a real good introduction.....those and read everything in Post #1 and linked in that post.

Hope this helps. But you really need to start reading.

Regards,
-tah
TAH,

Nice interpretation and useful example,thanks.

Best Regards,
LW
Regards,Liu Wen
Quoting sonicdeejay
Gents..

I have no much time to write (thx to me full time job and family time) and I want u guys to know..

We have 3 types entry Sonikers must know..

1. Classic Sonic R.
2. Re-entry
3. SS (Sonic Scout)

I think most of us are very familiar with the first two but not the third one..

SS is release solely based on vol and price action on M5/M15 TF..Its RR factor is higher.. I will show more with examples as we trade along..

Sonic
Not to put too fine a brush to it, but actually there are two forms of the Classic Sonic R. Therefore, the entry types list is:
1. Classic Sonic R.

  1. Proper L-H-HL sequence for long and H-L-LH for short
  2. Improper L-H-LL sequence for long and H-L-HL for short; creating a beforehand wider swing opposite the breakout direction

2. Re-entry
3. SS (Sonic Scout)

The first pic shows an example of a Classic SonicR with proper HLs. You can see that the asian session started it off (proper WAVE in red). However, the London BBs wanted some action at the breakout whole number area too. So they put the price back down there before letting it run (proper WAVE in blue). Entry here would be the dark blue line on the breakout upwards by the London BBs. Exit, shown by the dark green line, might have been after it became obvious PA was failing to achieve the half number S&R.

The second pic. shows an example of a Classic SonicR with improper HLs. and this is explained in more detail three posts above. What marks it different is that PA swung wide opposite the eventual run direction, making a higher H instead of a lower H. This improper sequence happens as often as the proper one does, and its wide swing in the wrong direction might actually be a good indication of a strong run to come in the other direction.

Note that both examples involved the PA WAVE making a breakout at a whole number S&R area. A PA WAVE breakout at an important S&R area is the Hallmark of a good SonicR setup.

Regards,
-tah

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Quoting traderathome
Not to put too fine a brush to it, but actually there are two forms of the Classic Sonic R. Therefore, the entry types list is:
1. Classic Sonic R.

  1. Proper L-H-HL sequence for long and H-L-LH for short
  2. Improper L-H-LL sequence for long and H-L-HL for short; creating a beforehand wider swing opposite the breakout direction

2. Re-entry
3. SS (Sonic Scout)

The first pic shows an example of a Classic SonicR with proper HLs. You can see that the asian session started it off (proper WAVE in red). However, the London BBs wanted some...

Impresive post TAH...

thanks
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
Quoting traderathome
Welcome to SonicR, Knez.

If you are serious about learning the Sonic R System, you MUST read the thread. The good news is that the first dozen or so posts by Sonicdeejay will give you a real good introduction.....those and read everything in Post #1 and linked in that post.

That is the introduction. The thread is the course, because it is filled with examples of SonicR trades, winners and losers. As you work thru the thread, you will see what worked, and what didn't.

The method is very simple. There are very few rules, and they are...
Hello TAH

Please help, The biggest problem I have in Sonic setup is how to qualify a PA wave set up. I get many waves in a range market and enter into many rubbish trades. You say, H-L-LH for short, Please refer to picture and kindly let m e know how it is a valid short set up? (refer to your picture)

Also I have attached another image on a range market which provides many incorrect signals tempting for a short and long and there by entering into wrong trades?

So there should be a cleaner method to qualify a PA Wave on top of the below "Proper L-H-HL sequence for long and H-L-LH for short"

How do you filter a PA WAve setup to be more correct?

Would really appreciate if you can help with your comments on the following chart to avoid entering into these 2 trades where i have pointed a long and short which both where incorrect and failures?
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My Weekly EU Analysis is just posted..

Weekly EU, 23 May 2011

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...=171827&page=3

or

http://www.facebook.com/sonicrsystem


Cheers..

Sonic
Quoting traderathome
Not to put too fine a brush to it, but actually there are two forms of the Classic Sonic R. Therefore, the entry types list is:
1. Classic Sonic R.

  1. Proper L-H-HL sequence for long and H-L-LH for short
  2. Improper L-H-LL sequence for long and H-L-HL for short; creating a beforehand wider swing opposite the breakout direction

2. Re-entry
3. SS (Sonic Scout)

The first pic shows an example of a Classic SonicR with proper HLs. You can see that the asian session started it off (proper WAVE in red). However, the London BBs wanted...

hey tom

first of all thank u very much for ur efforts including your inputs in sonic thread ofc.

will there be a template release in the near future? (or did i even missed it? : -P)

hope to catch ya later
kindest regards
Jonas

keep on !
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
Quoting PhAnTi'
hey tom

first of all thank u very much for ur efforts including your inputs in sonic thread ofc.

will there be a template release in the near future? (or did i even missed it? : -P)

hope to catch ya later
kindest regards
Jonas

keep on !
U miss it mate.. TAH shared in 16 may..
Go find or check out of the link in page1 post1..

Sonic
Quoting sonicdeejay
U miss it mate.. TAH shared in 16 may..
Go find or check out of the link in page1 post1..

Sonic
yeah cool !

thanks a lot

catch ya later

Jonas
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
Quoting traderathome
"I don´t know how TAH his volume will work.
[b]But may I show you how better vol will worked ... (c) http://emini-watch.com not TAH (these guys and sonic spend a lot of time on it - we should respekt it - not afganistan style)" - enigma4x

What are you doing, enigma4x? You refer Sonikers to a video, out of the whole time of which, less than one minute is used referring to the Better Volume display!.....half of which was spent on talking about LOW VOLUME!

I have...
I´m a trader and luv the game not more.

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
realy great ...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=3295

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
Hello Mr Sonic
I would like to thank you for interested thread, and i have question about your indicator Sonic Chart Panel, are RGH and RGL repaint it self?
Quoting adler
Hello TAH

Please help, The biggest problem I have in Sonic setup is how to qualify a PA wave set up. I get many waves in a range market and enter into many rubbish trades. You say, H-L-LH for short, Please refer to picture and kindly let m e know how it is a valid short set up? (refer to your picture)

Also I have attached another image on a range market which provides many incorrect signals tempting for a short and long and there by entering into wrong trades?

So there should be a cleaner method to qualify a PA Wave on top of the below "Proper...
First of all, it would help if your chart showed the symbol and TF. Also, it would help if your price candles were not so compressed. I find it very hard to analyze. Thirdly, it would help if you showed the London session vertical lines, so I could see exactly when the setups were relative to the London session.

All I can tell you at this point is that some days price just swings back and forth in a range. And when this happens, any SonicR setup might only be good for 15-30 pips, but sometimes more. If I have the day right that your PA is being shown, the upper whole number acted as a resistance area, and the lower half number acted as a support area. That did not leave much room for a profitable trade. Some days trading is good. Some days trading is not good. After the London close, there was another long setup, which ran for 100 pips thru the end of the day and into the asian session of the next day. Sometimes it happens that way.
I will give an bet on it - I would risk 2% (highest risk which I take with a trade) - somebody take 3 or 4% but my upperband of risk range is 2% what ever ...

My bet

we will see in lowest Vol coding in TAH Volume



this post is just for fun

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
Quoting ashrafnajo
Hello Mr Sonic
I would like to thank you for interested thread, and i have question about your indicator Sonic Chart Panel, are RGH and RGL repaint it self?
Repaint=useless...
Nothing in sonic R repaint..

Sonic
We had a gap down with drop to 1.41xx before bounce off, is it creating week low of the week in early Monday session,, jus as last week??

The mkt will show..


Sonic
EU:

Week - stopping volume on last bull candle, and heavy volume on following two bear candles....lots of participation on that downside slide.

Daily - rising above average volume on last two candles before the starting volume bear candle. Nice SonicR short setup with Entry Short in the 3/4 number area. Note S&R in the 1/4 number area.

As always, it is possible that the London session BBs will want an advantage before more downside. So a pullback upwards could happen. This could affect where an M15 ES would be made.
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TAH

Nice analysis u have there..
See u at LO


Sonic
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