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  • #20,601
  • May 17, 2011 12:16am May 17, 2011 12:16am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Anything can happen, up or down. As far as "up" goes, there is the H4 upper TL to deal with, which could limit a run up to the 1.423x area. Of course, a strong run up could break it, and maybe test it, and go on up some more. Or maybe that is the area at which the price will resume the down trend. Anything can happen.
yes , thanks for advice . If it up today , it should break yesterday high to 1.43xx i think ..anyway anything can happen as you said..i already tighten my SL , i will watch it like hawk
  • #20,602
  • May 17, 2011 12:48am May 17, 2011 12:48am
Quoting kloh927
yes , thanks for advice . If it up today , it should break yesterday high to 1.43xx i think ..anyway anything can happen as you said..i already tighten my SL , i will watch it like hawk
BE now ..free trade
  • #20,603
  • May 17, 2011 12:49am May 17, 2011 12:49am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Anything can happen, up or down. As far as "up" goes, there is the H4 upper TL to deal with, which could limit a run up to the 1.423x area. Of course, a strong run up could break it, and maybe test it, and go on up some more. Or maybe that is the area at which the price will resume the down trend. Anything can happen.
Hi Sonicers,

because of the coming economic data is a rising price is rather unlikely!?

11:00 EUR German ZEW Economic Sentiment
http://www.forexfactory.com/images/m...dar_detail.gif

4.8 7.6

are watchful

mtbf40
  • #20,604
  • May 17, 2011 12:54am May 17, 2011 12:54am
Quoting mtbf40
Hi Sonicers,

because of the coming economic data is a rising price is rather unlikely!?

11:00 EUR German ZEW Economic Sentiment
http://www.forexfactory.com/images/m...dar_detail.gif

4.8 7.6

are watchful

mtbf40
personally think that news is just a bullet to move the price , the price move up or down ? It depend on banker . so , sometime news is useless..
  • #20,605
  • Edited 1:51am May 17, 2011 12:54am | Edited 1:51am
Quoting mtbf40
Hi Sonicers,

because of the coming economic data is a rising price is rather unlikely!?

11:00 EUR German ZEW Economic Sentiment
http://www.forexfactory.com/images/m...dar_detail.gif

4.8 7.6

are watchful

mtbf40
Anything can happen.....always.

As far as trying to deduce the future direction from the anticipated content of releases.....

Regardless of what is anticipated, or what is actually released, the price is going to do what the biggest money decides it is going to do. And, much of the time, imho, that decision is made well in advance of the release. It relegates the importance of the release to simply becoming a possible high volatility event. The contents are unimportant. Focus on PA.

Look at it this way. There are 4 possible combinations to deduce from:
1. What is anticipated, is released, and PA is in accord.
2. What is anticipated, is released, but PA is not in accord.
3. What is anticipated, is not released, and PA is in accord with what is released.
4. What is anticipated, is not released, but PA is not in accord with what is released.
You going to trade on the chance of properly deducing the outcome? Good luck!

And sometimes PA makes the move before the release, and then just sits in a range until the next significant release for the opposite side of the pair!

Focus on PA! Know the time when events are to occur (the purpose of SonicR FFCal Headlines), but focus on PA!
  • #20,606
  • May 17, 2011 2:26am May 17, 2011 2:26am
in the market everything is relative and likely
PA can result from news, even if the BB's generate!!

nevertheless, one can profit from news if one trades them cleverly!!


mtbf40
  • #20,607
  • May 17, 2011 2:29am May 17, 2011 2:29am
Quoting mtbf40
in the market everything is relative and likely
PA can result from news, even if the BB's generate!!

nevertheless, one can profit from news if one trades them cleverly!!


mtbf40
But then, who decides what is "cleverly" for each instance that it is to be used?

I think a clever thing about the Sonic R System is that it does not include "cleverly"!
  • #20,608
  • Edited 3:43am May 17, 2011 3:15am | Edited 3:43am
Quoting traderathome
But then, who decides what is "cleverly" for each instance that it is to be used?

I think a clever thing about the Sonic R System is that it does not include "cleverly"!
i view the forecast from the calendar and watch the chart and then i decide do i trade or not

if the PA on to "right" side (Waves...), then i go long or short (is depending on the forecast) and my SL is very tight!!

in this case i trade with higher Lots, few minutes before the news - hop or top
my favored Pairs are xxxCHF and GBPUSD - then EURxxx

EDIT!
have you seen GBPUSD and EURGBP??
  • #20,609
  • May 17, 2011 4:01am May 17, 2011 4:01am
Quoting mtbf40
i view the forecast from the calendar and watch the chart and then i decide do i trade or not

if the PA on to "right" side (Waves...), then i go long or short (is depending on the forecast) and my SL is very tight!!

in this case i trade with higher Lots, few minutes before the news - hop or top
my favored Pairs are xxxCHF and GBPUSD - then EURxxx

EDIT!
have you seen GBPUSD and EURGBP??

40 PIPS on gbp/usd, did you got it?
  • #20,610
  • May 17, 2011 4:20am May 17, 2011 4:20am
Quoting traderathome
Anything can happen.....always.

As far as trying to deduce the future direction from the anticipated content of releases.....

Regardless of what is anticipated, or what is actually released, the price is going to do what the biggest money decides it is going to do. And, much of the time, imho, that decision is made well in advance of the release. It relegates the importance of the release to simply becoming a possible high volatility event. The contents are unimportant. Focus on PA.

Look at it this way. There are 4 possible combinations...
Both Euro News is bad..but it goes north..

Sonic
  • #20,611
  • May 17, 2011 4:20am May 17, 2011 4:20am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Looking at the WAVE possibility shown in the pic., I have entered long here. This is a bit lower than the exit made just earlier. This setup looks valid, but I'll just have to watch it, and see what happens. Because the London session is still a ways off, this could retreat down before going up, if it is going up.
Congrats man...i missed it...i couldn't see any clear direction today...

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #20,612
  • May 17, 2011 4:42am May 17, 2011 4:42am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Both Euro News is bad..but it goes north..

Sonic
more then sure that soon we will see very serious explanations from analists about risk aversion
  • #20,613
  • May 17, 2011 4:44am May 17, 2011 4:44am
Sonic Scout in Play in EUR/USD from 1.421x level. Will post chart later
  • #20,614
  • May 17, 2011 4:45am May 17, 2011 4:45am
Quoting M5city
40 PIPS on gbp/usd, did you got it?



yes but only in demo - i test this at the moment, then if you see EURUSD it's not easy!! but it can be worthwhile - with relatively low risk

following is important!!
1. you MUST be in the market before the news coming - see GBPUSD
2. go out (fast) when there is no movement (PA) developed - see EURUSD
3. you can re-entry - in other direction - if developed momentum (PA)
4. you can reduce the risk, if you share the position size with other pair -
example GBPUSD-EURBBP - instead of 3/4 Lots - part 1.5/2 to
1.5/2 or what ever
5. prefer the morning - GBP and CHF News - it is difficult for the EURUSD
and around 8:30 (14:30 german time)
  • #20,615
  • May 17, 2011 4:51am May 17, 2011 4:51am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Both Euro News is bad..but it goes north..

Sonic
... right!!!

therefore...
keep your eyes peeled !!!

is this english correct ??
  • #20,616
  • Edited 5:40am May 17, 2011 5:15am | Edited 5:40am
Choppy...but still valid higher lows..for uptrend..
50 pips pull back in whim..


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Sonic
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  • #20,617
  • May 17, 2011 6:02am May 17, 2011 6:02am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Looking at the WAVE possibility shown in the pic., I have entered long here. This is a bit lower than the exit made just earlier. This setup looks valid, but I'll just have to watch it, and see what happens. Because the London session is still a ways off, this could retreat down before going up, if it is going up.
EU:

42 pips profit on this SonicR long closed earlier at TP1.
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  • #20,618
  • May 17, 2011 8:21am May 17, 2011 8:21am
I took this short trade...

Sorry for the late chart...i wasn't in front of my screen.

1st Half closed at the botton of range...banked 30 pips...

2nd half sl @ be...now it's free.


Regards.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #20,619
  • May 17, 2011 8:28am May 17, 2011 8:28am
Quoting nando_rich
I took this short trade...

Sorry for the late chart...i wasn't in front of my screen.

1st Half closed at the botton of range...banked 30 pips...

2nd half sl @ be...now it's free.


Regards.
2nd...hit sl in BE+2.

The range wasn't breakdown...see you tomorroy.

Regards.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #20,620
  • May 17, 2011 9:23am May 17, 2011 9:23am
anybody thinking about posible short EU now?

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