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  • #438,021
  • May 8, 2011 5:24pm May 8, 2011 5:24pm
Quoting malcolmb14

I have never understood those that use hedging.. maybe I am just stupid
same here...
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  • #438,022
  • May 8, 2011 5:24pm May 8, 2011 5:24pm
Quoting malcolmb14
buy or sell position ?
buy - look at my tp....
  • #438,023
  • May 8, 2011 5:28pm May 8, 2011 5:28pm
so let me get this right

1)BUY in a counter trend after a 600 pip drop that could yet go another 500 for all we know.

2)wait to hedge once it is underwater 30 pip lower , euro drops 500 pip more , yes you make money on the hedge BUT the original position is now 500 pip underwater and euro may not see 1.4350 area for months ...

Would a 30 pip stop with 0.25% of account not be better ?

lol .. just a thought

as I said I do not understand hedging

ME DUMB DUMB ... or not

Quoting ScreenTimer
buy - look at my tp....
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  • #438,024
  • May 8, 2011 5:29pm May 8, 2011 5:29pm
If you are breakout trader - you'll never understand hedging...
  • #438,025
  • May 8, 2011 5:29pm May 8, 2011 5:29pm
Quoting malcolmb14
Markets have not truely opened yet , and there is ZERO players right now and we have all kinds of predictions..frigging love it

Listen for those of you with your crystal balls that you are currently rubbing can anyone tell me if Tigers ex misses is going to meet me in starbucks and fall in love with me. I hear she is worth 100 mill and i hear she is in the market for a normal nice guy

( no comments from Magix or Cloggie on fact I am muppet / scuba trader and not a nice guy)


just here waiting rubbing our crystal balls...
  • #438,026
  • May 8, 2011 5:30pm May 8, 2011 5:30pm
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  • #438,027
  • May 8, 2011 5:31pm May 8, 2011 5:31pm
Quoting malcolmb14
so let me get this right

1)BUY in a counter trend after a 600 pip drop that could yet go another 500 for all we know.

2)wait to hedge once it is underwater 30 pip lower , euro drops 500 pip more , yes you make money on the hedge BUT the original position is now 500 pip underwater and euro may not see 1.4350 area for months ...

Would a 30 pip stop with 0.25% of account not be better ?

lol .. just a thought

as I said I do not understand hedging

ME DUMB DUMB ... or not
oil would have to go down to 85 -80 area in order for euro to drop another 500 pips - remeber that
  • #438,028
  • May 8, 2011 5:33pm May 8, 2011 5:33pm
I am a trader that likes at end of year to say I made 400 % on account... not hey look at all these profitable trades but i have 5000 pip of trades in hegdes under water and my real account balance has not changed ..

Hedging not required when you can see the professional monies footprints in the charts .. those flat footed mofos cannot hide from a vsa trader..lol

Why is euro moving up UNDER NO VOLUME do you think ? ....mmm.

do you like getting something at full price or a little discount ?

Any way good luck .



Quoting ScreenTimer
If you are breakout trader - you'll never understand hedging...
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  • #438,029
  • May 8, 2011 5:33pm May 8, 2011 5:33pm
Panathinaikos beats Maccabi for Euroleague title

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  • #438,030
  • May 8, 2011 5:35pm May 8, 2011 5:35pm
oil could drop to 75 ....

there was massive supply on the weekly charts week before last ....

85 is a most likely target to be honest. I am watching the up moves carefull, if there is no buy interest that 85 target is more than confirmed.

I mentioned that something odd going on in commodities and top in oil last week....vsa rocks

BTW something going on in US markets end of last week. I am expecting a drop in s and p into 1300 / even 1250.

Quoting ScreenTimer
oil would have to go down to 85 -80 area in order for euro to drop another 500 pips - remeber that
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  • #438,031
  • May 8, 2011 5:42pm May 8, 2011 5:42pm
We were so close to 1.5 to not hit it, because of that I am not entirely sure that we will continue this downtrend, especially considering other factors. On the weekly chart I found that week Nov 15-27 2007 also got pretty close to 1.5 without hitting before retracing to 1.43080 and then continuing the uptrend.

Last week's low was 1.43079

http://www.forexfactory.com/%3Ca%20h...%22%3E%3C/a%3E
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  • #438,032
  • May 8, 2011 5:48pm May 8, 2011 5:48pm
Quoting ScreenTimer
oil would have to go down to 85 -80 area in order for euro to drop another 500 pips - remeber that
that seems IMPOSSIBLE AT THE MOMENT!! LOL!
  • #438,033
  • May 8, 2011 5:52pm May 8, 2011 5:52pm
Quoting malcolmb14
Markets have not truely opened yet , and there is ZERO players right now and we have all kinds of predictions..frigging love it

( no comments from Magix or Cloggie on fact I am muppet / scuba trader and not a nice guy)


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  • #438,034
  • May 8, 2011 6:00pm May 8, 2011 6:00pm
Quoting malcolmb14
I do not understand hedging ... been in game 7 years..

You are either right or you are wrong. If you think there is going to be abounce lcose your profitable trade and wait for re entry higher ( or lower ) depending on previaling trend ...

I have never understood those that use hedging.. maybe I am just stupid
Hey Mal, I truly can understand hedging when you are a true position trader. You know, the ones that trade off of the weekly/monthly charts, I'm talking about the guys who take months to build a signal position. It makes sense to hedge when you are looking at a possible reversal of a trend, while you may start slowly taking profit on your currently open position.

Basically, you are protecting profit that is already locked in with the ability to start building the next position that is the opposite. Likewise, if the trend decides to continue on in the original direction, the hedged position can again start to be closed out and build upon the current position.

I'm not so sure we have many traders like that here though.
  • #438,035
  • May 8, 2011 6:07pm May 8, 2011 6:07pm
hedge = closed position, 0, zero, - commissions and overnight costs, blah blah. I used it - is what I said.
No crystal ball. I read the cards.
  • #438,036
  • May 8, 2011 6:09pm May 8, 2011 6:09pm
oh i see...

I just take a position based on my style , set my stops and as long as I am making 300 % a week on account like everyone else in the Euro thread is I am happy ...



Quoting Venice
Hey Mal, I truly can understand hedging when you are a true position trader. You know, the ones that trade off of the weekly/monthly charts, I'm talking about the guys who take months to build a signal position. It makes sense to hedge when you are looking at a possible reversal of a trend, while you may start slowly taking profit on your currently open position.

Basically, you are protecting profit that is already locked in with the ability to start building the next position that is the opposite. Likewise, if the trend decides to continue on...
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  • #438,037
  • May 8, 2011 6:15pm May 8, 2011 6:15pm
If found this post on FF forums:


Quoting pip_seeker
If I'm wrong why is Hedging in the same account illegal in the U.S.?

Look at me history matee, I have been a member here a long time and most of my recent posts are concerning the 10:1 leverage change by the CFTC.

Then you quote me to make me look like the bad guy as I told you I myself once suffered from the same problem you do.

There are many people on this board with inflated egos think they know everything and do nothing but spout non-sense....
  • #438,038
  • May 8, 2011 6:21pm May 8, 2011 6:21pm
Quoting malcolmb14
oh i see...

I just take a position based on my style , set my stops and as long as I am making 300 % a week on account like everyone else in the Euro thread is I am happy ...

300% a week! Wow ! Unbelievable! I did not know so many geniuses on this thread!
  • #438,039
  • May 8, 2011 6:23pm May 8, 2011 6:23pm
Quoting behman8850
300% a week! Wow ! Unbelievable! I did not know so many geniuses on this thread!
pfft! only 300%??? I thouyght everyone on here turned 1k into 500k on the annual routinely!
  • #438,040
  • May 8, 2011 6:24pm May 8, 2011 6:24pm
Quoting Wulfgar
pfft! only 300%??? I thouyght everyone on here turned 1k into 500k on the annual routinely!
you are right! LOL!
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