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  • #13,921
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:14pm Apr 14, 2011 1:14pm
Quoting Incrediblle
I have two question

1.have u changed any rules of your trading from the first post?

2.can u please post the recent indicators u are using.
Hi Incrediblle, the recent indicator LG uses are, for all I know, the ones she used from the start, so they can be found on post #1. In fact there's only one indicator that's Lawgirl's Trend Display, and there's this template that draws a "box" on the first 4 candles of your new period for BO's. So if you read post#1 from start to finish you'll find both.

Entry on BO's might have improved with time during the thread but this has been discused a lot in the recent posts so if you give a quick look to the last saay 20 pages, you'll find what you need. I hope this helps... if you need further guidance on this entry discussion feel free to PM me. Have a great day.
Flp. 4:13
  • #13,922
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:36pm Apr 14, 2011 1:36pm
Quoting Whistlepips
How do you think we should document our results? Maybe some excel sheet, etc? A demo-test might help us to get the picture so that we could do the testing in a similar manner?
There is a results tab in the visual tester - see the attachment to this post. Right click on the results table, save as report (html) - it will produce a detailed statement of all positions made during the test. That is why I think everyone can benefit from this test, because it will be possible to check every position, TP and SL, and the test will be more credible than someone making entries in ms excel sheet.

There should be also log files for the test in the following path: /yourPlatform/tester/logs. Moreover these logs can uploaded in the Journal tab of the visual tester. (i haven't checked how it works yet, but looks very promissing - maybe we could share logs from the test).

I will be using LG setups and indicators. CustomCandle is only because it is not possible to change TF during the test. If CustomCandles need a clarification then I can make one. I do not advise using this candles in trading and I do not use them myself, because they make the picture unclean (eg. for me consolidation and S/R zones mess up with custom candles on my charts). The simpler, the better.

Quoting Anthar
Also, I think it's very important to keep discussion on this outside the thread so we don't use too much space in it. I'm willing to handle it on PM, mail or whatever, and in the end present results to eveyone in the thread. What do you guys think?
Agree. PM me please
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  • #13,923
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:39pm Apr 14, 2011 1:39pm
Quoting Anthar
I like it as it is and will give my opinion on the final matters you stated:
1. I think we should just look for potential TP and SL in this round at least. We might improve and refine the research in a future round.
Fully agree, I was also thinking about this and I see that simplicity is our friend, let's check potential ones, I just wonder how to determine fakeouts avoidance, but maybe it also can be done in next step.

Quoting Anthar
2. Results must be presented in PIPS.
I hope everyone agrees with that.

Quoting Anthar
3. As someone, I think Whistle, said we should take note on all existent levels of TP, this requieres personal discretion and may vary, but we can't avoid that and we know it.
I'm not sure if I follow it properly. Shall it be different TP levels before retracements, or?

Quoting Anthar
4. Way to present results could be an excel sheet with the fields:
date, price and time of entry, SL, TP1 and TP2 if exists, time of exit.
I might prefer to keep it simple but important things might be escaping from my thought. Please add to this.
Shall be sufficient, maybe we shall add kind of comment to write if there was also 3T confirmong move, or other condition?

Quoting Anthar
Also, I think it's very important to keep discussion on this outside the thread so we don't use too much space in it. I'm willing to handle it on PM, mail or whatever, and in the end present results to eveyone in the thread. What do you guys think?
I fully agree, we shall not waste thread with discussion regarding details of this test.
Time matters most
  • #13,924
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:41pm Apr 14, 2011 1:41pm
Thank you to Lawgirl and all the others contributing to this thread

Nar
Dance with the market .. I have two left feet
  • #13,925
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:55pm Apr 14, 2011 1:55pm
Quoting GhostMcFly

Agree. PM me please
@ Ghost, blackqn, Whistle and others involved... let's take this to PM, do you agree guys?
Flp. 4:13
  • #13,926
  • Apr 14, 2011 1:58pm Apr 14, 2011 1:58pm
Quoting Anthar
@ Ghost, blackqn, Whistle and others involved... let's take this to PM, do you agree guys?
Just tried to create a mailing list for us, but the max amount of people in the list is 3 persons. What a restriction

Any suggestions?
  • #13,927
  • Apr 14, 2011 2:01pm Apr 14, 2011 2:01pm
Interesting, I would like to see what your results will be? Can I assist??
  • #13,928
  • Apr 14, 2011 2:50pm Apr 14, 2011 2:50pm
Related to uor previous discussions concerning backtesting of LGs methods I just made a temporary testing thread for the testing-discussion purposes. There was also a problem with private messages which were limited to only 3 people.

If you like to see our discussion you can find the tread from FF´s trading systems threads by the name Trade naked - testing thread. Join us if you will.

We will get back to you all with the results I hope.
  • #13,929
  • Apr 14, 2011 2:54pm Apr 14, 2011 2:54pm
Quoting jrushing
Interesting, I would like to see what your results will be? Can I assist??
It would be very nice. An extra pair of hands is always welcome. Feel free to join our discussion in a new temporary thread Trade naked - testing thread. You can find it from FF´s trading systems threads.
  • #13,930
  • Apr 14, 2011 3:23pm Apr 14, 2011 3:23pm
I am very impressed with your simple and clear system.. I use pretty much the same with some tweaking... I have support/resistance boxes and I draw trendlines zones.
Good staff.. Cheers!
  • #13,931
  • Apr 14, 2011 4:35pm Apr 14, 2011 4:35pm
Quoting Anthar
@ Ghost, blackqn, Whistle and others involved... let's take this to PM, do you agree guys?
Yes, please take it private guys...
  • #13,932
  • Apr 14, 2011 4:36pm Apr 14, 2011 4:36pm
Quoting phpower
I am very impressed with your simple and clear system.. I use pretty much the same with some tweaking... I have support/resistance boxes and I draw trendlines zones.
Good staff.. Cheers!
Thanks, php..
  • #13,933
  • Apr 14, 2011 8:55pm Apr 14, 2011 8:55pm
Quoting lawgirl21
Guys, I don't have any problems with testing higher TFs, daily, weekly, even monthly and discussing outcomes on the thread...after all, I started the conversation and am doing the same. However, if all kinds of indicators start appearing and the the integrity of a very solid system is threatened, I would ask that you start a new thread or take it private.
Rebecca
Honestly, I respect everyone's enthusiasm, but I haven't been on the past day or so because it is getting very cluttered on here. I know people, including myself have questions, but please stick to the script here. I spent 2 days on the EU message board, wound up with headaches from all the mess that was going on there, and the same is happening here. Thanks!
  • #13,934
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:13pm Apr 14, 2011 9:13pm
Would be nice to keep this thread focused on setups for the day. Think its important to focus on the 'now' because that's where the profits come from.

Not so say backtesting isn't important.
  • #13,935
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:16pm Apr 14, 2011 9:16pm
Further moves upwards?
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  • #13,936
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:18pm Apr 14, 2011 9:18pm
Not sure if anyone trades this pair, for me it has a large spread on the broker im using.
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  • #13,937
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:22pm Apr 14, 2011 9:22pm
Silver has a nice consolidation, maybe a good for a little retrace? Same with gold.
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  • #13,938
  • Apr 14, 2011 9:38pm Apr 14, 2011 9:38pm
Been away for a while and you know what? Three taps is now being used by a friend of mine who handles 45 million. Says it is the best thing he has going now.
  • #13,939
  • Apr 14, 2011 10:01pm Apr 14, 2011 10:01pm
Quoting steroidman
Been away for a while and you know what? Three taps is now being used by a friend of mine who handles 45 million. Says it is the best thing he has going now.
You mean he made 45 mil trading?
What is the maximum amount of money you can have in your account?
With God all things are possible.
  • #13,940
  • Apr 14, 2011 10:02pm Apr 14, 2011 10:02pm
Have your friend send Lawgirl with her hubby to a nice restaurant...weekly...forever!

She deserves it.


Quoting steroidman
Been away for a while and you know what? Three taps is now being used by a friend of mine who handles 45 million. Says it is the best thing he has going now.
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