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  • #406,481
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:51pm Mar 14, 2011 3:51pm
Quoting rattyo
Cnut why dont you show me todays trades then?
Why should he ?

Nobody needs such a thing ... we are able to see if there is some thoughts behind or not ...

I have seen such things several times before from other members ... and they did not convince me because of the fact that they tried to show such things ...

I am able to see if there is more than only try here try there behind ...

I do not need such things ... and others don't need that as well ...

When you want to see a trading results of a party you want to come in business ... you will not get such things ... not below 50 K ...

And even in case you come to a conclusion that you want to invest more than 50 K ... even then many companies that I know do not show such things ...

MAN Financial for example do have two seperate types of Managed Funds ...

The tiny ones ... 50 - 150K investment stakes (small private customers funds) ... they get never such things ...

The larger ones ... starting from several hundreds and more than 5'000'000 tranches ... they would show you a little ... if needed ...

But there is no need ... because many know what it is about ...



I think we should not START such debates here ...




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  • #406,482
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm
Quoting mercy seat
Why should he ?

Nobody needs such a thing ... we are able to see if there is some thoughts behind or not ...

I have seen such things several times before from other members ... and they did not convince me because of the fact that they tried to show such things ...

I am able to see if there is more than only try here try there behind ...

I do not need such things ... and others don't need that as well ...

When you want to see a trading results of a party you want to come in business ... you will not get such things ... not below 50 K ...

And...

Exactly Mercy. I would never show my real trades or accounts.
  • #406,483
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm
Quoting cloggie
I keep dozens of demo accounts. I use them to play around with different strategies. I have started last year programming some bots and play around with them a lot. The last thing I want to do is share my chart setups and layouts here, it has taken me a long time to get where I am at and I am not going to share it with a few muppets on the interwebby that for one I don't know and two that don't ever deserve it.

A new strategy or setup that interests me usually gets tested 6 months to a year before I put money on it. Lots of them get discarded...
I have a few bucks in micros I use for bots...

I agree, back testing sucks. Run a bot live, run a bot demo for a week...then run the back test on both...

Guess what?

Typically 4 different results....
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  • #406,484
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm Mar 14, 2011 3:52pm
Gator - PM sent
Disclaimer: Check your 1m charts
  • #406,485
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:54pm Mar 14, 2011 3:54pm
Infractions overload but yet ...........
  • #406,486
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm
Quoting Magix

Guess what?

Typically 4 different results....

Oh yeah big time. I take so long in forward testing because normal trading always takes priority and gets in the way. After a few weeks of forward testing, I contemplate the results and ponder on how to finetune it, I am still working on strategies I started years ago. THat is the main reason I started programming last year, to finally give me more time to experiment while I can get my normal trading taken care of by a bot.
  • #406,487
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm
Quoting mercy seat
I think we should not START such debates here ....
too late. -.-
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
  • #406,488
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm Mar 14, 2011 3:55pm
Quoting gatorinla
#1 3982.2
st #1 3926.2 is that one still valid G? and if so is there a time limiting factor on it?

also I'm looking at 3995.8 with a murrey...

edit: both minor but based on current pa...
  • #406,489
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:59pm Mar 14, 2011 3:59pm
are you doing mt4? (I bet not) or more sophisticated stuff? And if so for what platform are doing it?
Quoting cloggie
Oh yeah big time. I take so long in forward testing because normal trading always takes priority and gets in the way. After a few weeks of forward testing, I contemplate the results and ponder on how to finetune it, I am still working on strategies I started years ago. THat is the main reason I started programming last year, to finally give me more time to experiment while I can get my normal trading taken care of by a bot.
  • #406,490
  • Mar 14, 2011 3:59pm Mar 14, 2011 3:59pm
Quoting attila
are you doing mt4? (I bet not) or more sophisticated stuff? And if so for what platform are doing it?

SQL/C++ based. However I can't program either worth sh!t so I do use MT4 to play around with basic ideas, then get it programmed by 2 guys that have been doing stuff for me for ages. I split the work so neither of them know the complete package/job.
  • #406,491
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:02pm Mar 14, 2011 4:02pm
Fair dues Cloggie.. C++ is difficult... Do a bit of SQL/VB myself

Quoting cloggie
SQL/C++ based.
Disclaimer: Check your 1m charts
  • #406,492
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:02pm Mar 14, 2011 4:02pm
Quoting cloggie
SQL based.
got it. i think i know what you are interested in. Data.
I've done a lot of programing in my life, heck I even have an MS in CS with concentration in Database, never liked sql. It can get pretty ugly really fast.
  • #406,493
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:03pm Mar 14, 2011 4:03pm
Quoting attila
got it. i think i know what you are interested in. Data.
I've done a lot of programing in my life, heck I even have an MS in CS with concentration in Database, never liked sql. It can get pretty ugly really fast.

I am cr@p in both and am learning slowly, that's one area of trading that I have definitely missed out on. You are right though, it is all about the data, that's why I use SQL. I don't really want to go into it further.

Back to eu, ah sh!t nothing to trade yet.
  • #406,494
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:05pm Mar 14, 2011 4:05pm
Quoting pipper
Fair dues Cloggie.. C++ is difficult... Do a bit of SQL/VB myself

I am strugling with it, that's why it is taking me so long. One day, I'll get there.
  • #406,495
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:07pm Mar 14, 2011 4:07pm
Quoting pipper
Fair dues Cloggie.. C++ is difficult... Do a bit of SQL/VB myself
DML or the DDL side?
  • #406,496
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:07pm Mar 14, 2011 4:07pm
Quoting Magix
Holding multiple accounts and some on demo servers is quite common here actually...For data comparison and for posting charts I keep a few open...

Much the same as Clogs, if I do post a trade it is after the fact. I been wrong before, but I sure know when I am going to exit...not going to post to lead others into a trade and have to babysit them on the backside...

The trade setups I post are all the same...most that I post for forecasts and trade setups are on my thread...playing around here is pure amusement...
everyone has a demo account, I was stating that it is TALENT to have the exact same trade in real time across multiple platforms, I admire that!

"playing around here is pure amusement" - so I see!

Quoting PhAnTi'
jesus, u might be the pro trader in here?

tell me one argument why Clog should post any of his live trades here ?

so stfu and play ur micros


...
1 argument, read through his post ... if you are going to ride someone for their trades, show yours! that is why

"twee will provide my language in this context" - kk!

Quoting cloggie
I keep dozens of demo accounts. I use them to play around with different strategies. I have started last year programming some bots and play around with them a lot.

...

A new strategy or setup that interests me usually gets tested 6 months to a year before I put money on it. Lots of them get discarded after a few months. I have never been a big fan of back testing and always forward test everything I do.

Simple common sense is often not understood here.
I really am a fan, not only a top trader with all top data feeds but you are a programmer. Why aren't you working on those algo's for BOA or Chase?

/hug
  • #406,497
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:08pm Mar 14, 2011 4:08pm
Portugal Prime Minister Jose Socrates "Either we resolve the problem ourselves, or others will solve it for us" .....

"A political crisis at this moment would hurt us and impede our country from showing that we can solve our problems without outside help," he added.
  • #406,498
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:09pm Mar 14, 2011 4:09pm
Quoting letscry
Portugal Prime Minister Jose Socrates "Either we resolve the problem ourselves, or others will solve it for us" .....

Sad but true, the FI boys are deciding for him as we speak. That will be the next big fundie trigger Sisse and I have been discussing in the last few weeks.
  • #406,499
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:10pm Mar 14, 2011 4:10pm
Got a a question abt fibs..assuming they hold, the larger the retrace the stronger the bounce?
(that is larger reloads for pepole that are speculating with the already locked profits..)
  • #406,500
  • Mar 14, 2011 4:10pm Mar 14, 2011 4:10pm
They say C++ is used because of it's speed. That was true some time ago. With the jvm advances java is almost as fast (and that without all the memory issues) and much simpler. What I like about java is the open source community. There is no one thing that you need and it's not already developed. All you need to do is put the pieces together. But yeah, back to eu. Let's see what the aussies have in mind.
Quoting cloggie
I am strugling with it, that's why it is taking me so long. One day, I'll get there.
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