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  • #404,601
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:45pm Mar 10, 2011 3:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
#7 3745.4 #8 3671.6
#6 at 3775.x is done.. i was sleeping... current bounce mid was already reached.. i missed the long.
the mid for #1 bull is 3790.9 with a target of 3806.5 this one is closer then they have been... so its easier to get a bull to survive st.. but we are still above usx 77.15 atm... there is now a gartly that suggest usx can got to 76.99.. but 77.15 may not allow this. 77.15 may stop any upmove on the eu above 3825... we will c.... there are no eu bulls w/o touching 3806.5. and even then they will need help to survive much higher.. #7 and # 8 above..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #404,602
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:46pm Mar 10, 2011 3:46pm
Quoting gatorinla
like that
I need your ability because it's down right scary...
  • #404,603
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:46pm Mar 10, 2011 3:46pm
Quoting kill56
get u a god dog bro
what's a god dog kill?
  • #404,604
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:49pm Mar 10, 2011 3:49pm
Quoting gatorinla
#6 at 3775.x is done.. i was sleeping... current bounce mid was already reached.. i missed the long.
the mid for #1 bull is 3790.9 with a target of 3806.5 this one is closer then they have been... so its easier to get a bull to survive st.. but we are still above usx 77.15 atm... there is now a gartly that suggest usx can got to 76.99.. but 77.15 may not allow this. 77.15 may stop any upmove on the eu above 3825... we will c.... there are no eu bulls w/o touching 3806.5. and even then they will need help to survive much higher.. #7 and # 8 above.....
see what liquidity does in a cpl of hours...
  • #404,605
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:55pm Mar 10, 2011 3:55pm
Quoting infinitus
OK, 1h data with odd numbers finished:

EMA

39
119
243/245 but 233 or 235 a little bit better (even better than 242 and 272)
271


Even numbers were:

40
120
242
272 (would favor 272 over 242)


I did a new run with even and odd numbers between 200 and 300:

EMA 233, 234, 235 had the best results


I will go with 40, 120 and 234 for the next time on all TF up to 240min.


I will do now a run with dailys on a 4 year basis (no more data available)


Here we are:

For dailys following EMA seems good

40
106
254

But keep in mind: I broadend the data-base for dailys. That is not the same data base for daily as it was for 1 to 240 minutes.

Those EMA numbers have to be constantly reevaluated. What works today might not work tomorrow, so to say.

I will start a last run for 1h TF with a database of only 6 months, to see, if we can see a difference to the data obtained with 12 month worth of data.

OK here we are: 60min TF - 6 Month data

Best EMA's

40 (48 good too)
106 (120 not bad, but 106 way better)
258 (254 good to, but 258 a bit better)




So, what do we conclude? Do not really know :-)

Maybe this:

4 year data: maybe to old, maybe not so reliable for trading now
6 month data: maybe to less data, maybe kind of overoptimized
12 month data: maybe the right mixture out of both

What is the main reason for delivering different results when comparing different timeframes (6, 12,48 month worth of data)?

Main reason should be different values of volatility in those observed timeframes. Higher volatility produces more frequent whipsaws. Thus sometimes it is appropriate to have an EMA with a higher period, sometimes (in times of lower volatility) it is better to have EMA's with lower period value.

Maybe it is better to search for a good combination of AMA's or ALF

Someone here with experience with those moving averages?
  • #404,606
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:57pm Mar 10, 2011 3:57pm
  •  Vilgax
  • | Joined Aug 2010 | Status: Lack of money is root of most evil | 466 Posts
Quoting infinitus
3793 was a target for me (heyheyhey, I am not Cloggie) :-) because on 4h chart it is 0/8 Murrey Math trading line (p=32) and on daily +1/8

Then it is weekly S1 level.

Additionally some important fib confluences around it.

At 3801 is an important Gann SQ9 180° target on 4h and dailys

This morning I thought that we would go more up (Elliott wise), but my count failed and I was a little late to the party (3885 short entry)
Hi Infinitus,

Am having a good month so far - thank you again for all your Murrey Math info. Have not been around much as have been focusing on my trading and getting to my targets... However I just want to share the 2 main tools that are working well for me:
1. Murrey Math on the 4 hour time frame on P32 or P64 setting.
2. MACD on the 1 hour time frame. (I stopped using MACD a while back & used other indis but then I read through Magix's trading system and how he uses OSMA and MACD etc and have found for myself the MACD to be brilliant on the 1 hour time frame).
The MACD on 1 hour tells you in which direction the market is going and Murrey on the 4 hour tells you where it is going/when to get out. If you see small bars STARTING to form above 0.00 on MACD 1 hour it usually means that a break out north is coming. Small bars forming below 0.00 usually means it should be going south. As the market starts to move then the bars get longer and longer and then makes those lovely waves. I never go long if bars are below 0.00 and never short if bars are above 0.00. (unless scalping but that is for quickies). This requires patience and above all discipline - one has to wait for the entry and stay in and be patient. Anyway this is just a simplified explanation of my 2 main tools for trading - I look at other things too but these are my best 2 tools as I don't like sitting infront of a screen all day... Charts attached:
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The forex market has its own life and takes its own time.
  • #404,607
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:58pm Mar 10, 2011 3:58pm
Hello everione!
Although long follow forum only tonight I registered, so I now ask you a question for the selected experts.

Can someone give a good basis for tomorrow on the EUR / USD currency pair-?
Is this still was a tough level to 1.3775?
Or we go down more tomorrow to 1.3743?

Thanks
  • #404,608
  • Mar 10, 2011 3:58pm Mar 10, 2011 3:58pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
what's a god dog kill?
stick with u call if u see a trend , fair SL , give the time needed no rush let run to u target ,
  • #404,609
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:02pm Mar 10, 2011 4:02pm
Quoting kill56
stick with u call if u see a trend , fair SL , give the time needed no rush let run to u target ,
yeah too defensive... Seem to recall saying the exact same thing last night...
  • #404,610
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:02pm Mar 10, 2011 4:02pm
Quoting cloggie
Oh really?
Yes, really. Too many people these days base their self worth on how much money they have. It's a sad state of affairs. I don't know about you, but on my travels around the place, the happiest people I met were the ones that didn't have a lot of money. Of course, I'm not talking about the homeless sleeping under bridges in London or those sleeping in cardboard boxes on the streets of New York etc etc. Just Joe Average enjoying life for what it was. The more money they had, the more of an arse they were. Just my opinion of course.
Nothing worth having is easy.
  • #404,611
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:03pm Mar 10, 2011 4:03pm
Quoting eliabreu
buy limit 1.3778 executed.
no sl
no tp
closed at 1.3797 +19 pips
I hear something about cloe or ignorance....
or I know something you dont?
me
you
information and experience is everything.
  • #404,612
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:05pm Mar 10, 2011 4:05pm
Quoting gatorinla
#6 at 3775.x is done.. i was sleeping... current bounce mid was already reached.. i missed the long.
the mid for #1 bull is 3790.9 with a target of 3806.5 this one is closer then they have been... so its easier to get a bull to survive st.. but we are still above usx 77.15 atm... there is now a gartly that suggest usx can got to 76.99.. but 77.15 may not allow this. 77.15 may stop any upmove on the eu above 3825... we will c.... there are no eu bulls w/o touching 3806.5. and even then they will need help to survive much higher.. #7 and # 8 above.....
above is just pure pa indications.. there is no clock to decide it. not included past s/r.. it does not include daily wk month fibs. tl ect.. it does not include 3733 or 3708.. i suggest you look in larger tf and look for congestion such as closes on larger tf then your trading. we will bounce off these..we will ping pong... we will have many detours. we can go any place. and will. your account cant.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #404,613
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:09pm Mar 10, 2011 4:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
above is just pure pa indications.. there is no clock to decide it. not included past s/r.. it does not include daily wk month fibs. tl ect.. it does not include 3733 or 3708.. i suggest you look in larger tf and look for congestion such as closes on larger tf then your trading. we will bounce off these..we will ping pong... we will have many detours. we can go any place. and will. your account cant.
great advice g...
  • #404,614
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:12pm Mar 10, 2011 4:12pm
Quoting Patience
Yes, really. Too many people these days base their self worth on how much money they have. It's a sad state of affairs. I don't know about you, but on my travels around the place, the happiest people I met were the ones that didn't have a lot of money. Of course, I'm not talking about the homeless sleeping under bridges in London or those sleeping in cardboard boxes on the streets of New York etc etc. Just Joe Average enjoying life for what it was. The more money they had, the more of an arse they were. Just my opinion of course.
Who’s the Boss?

When the Lord made man, all the parts of the body argued over who would be boss.

The brain explained that since he controlled all the parts of the body, he should be boss. The legs argued that since they took man wherever he wanted to go, they should be boss. The stomach countered with the explanation that since he digested all the food, he should be boss. The eyes said that without them man would be helpless, so they should be boss. Then the asshole applied for the job. The other parts of the body laughed so hard at this that the asshole became mad and closed up.

After a few days…

The brain went foggy, the legs got wobbly, the stomach got ill, and the eyes got crossed and unable to see. They all conceded and made the asshole boss.

This proved that you don’t have to be a brain to be boss…

Just an Asshole.
  • #404,615
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:15pm Mar 10, 2011 4:15pm
pip perfect on the daily...
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  • #404,616
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:17pm Mar 10, 2011 4:17pm
Quoting fldash
I need your ability because it's down right scary...
no special ability here. my free candles look the same as the ones i paid for.
1+1 = 2
1 divided 1 = 1/2
it don't get more technical then that. then again im not selling nothing.
it does require ass time to see whats in front of you. we basically all start with the same charts. the pair has a personalty. it does this after that. its a manic depressant school girl with ocd.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #404,617
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:17pm Mar 10, 2011 4:17pm
Quoting FibbinArchie
pip perfect on the daily...

Good one, thank's
  • #404,618
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:21pm Mar 10, 2011 4:21pm
Quoting gatorinla
no special ability here. my free candles look the same as the ones i paid for.
1+1 = 2
1 divided 1 = 1/2
it don't get more technical then that. then again im not selling nothing.
it does require ass time to see whats in front of you. we basically all start with the same charts. the pair has a personalty. it does this after that. its a manic depressant school girl with ocd.
I understand, sort of. You use mofu a lot, and I just don't know what the hell it is. Seems you use waves as well looking at your charts.

I'm still learning, so just ignore me, I just like what I see out of your posts. And I'm trying to filter the posts I see, and get rid of the junk posts by ignoring the authors.
  • #404,619
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:22pm Mar 10, 2011 4:22pm
Quoting gatorinla
1 divided 1 = 1/2
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #404,620
  • Mar 10, 2011 4:25pm Mar 10, 2011 4:25pm
Dow Jones -228.48 (-1.87%)


Exxon Mobil Corporation -3.00 (-3.56%)


i have learned this from a trader if down jones close the day over %1 -/+ and exxon as well - like today short eur-usd or eur-jpy if + long

will see tonight will happen or not

short 1,3796 t/p 1,3770 s/l 1,3835
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