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  • #404,401
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:13am Mar 10, 2011 11:13am
[quote=infinitus;4461658]
Quoting gatorinla

Closed mine too @3820 due to symetrie brake on 1min TF

But may be too early to load up shorts. Have not a real good EW count, but looks to go higher (at this time only gut-feeling)
same here.. i had a green light usually good for 40 pips.. but usx above 77.15 and 3842 made me consider, we may not go higher. so i shorted
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #404,402
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:14am Mar 10, 2011 11:14am
Quoting cloggie
You are doing everything right to build a solid foundation in this business. Plenty of muppets here blow several real accounts before they realise that they are cr@p and need to actually put serious work into making it in this business and just can't be bothered.

There are 3 things you need to make it in this business; time, time and time.

It takes the pros years to get good at this, what makes a retailer think he can become a millionaire reading a few books and spending a few hours on threads like this is funny to watch.
how many accounts have you blown clevercloggs?
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  • #404,403
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:15am Mar 10, 2011 11:15am
[quote=gatorinla;4461664]
Quoting infinitus
same here.. i had a green light usually good for 40 pips.. but usx above 77.15 and 3842 made me consider, we may not go higher. so i shorted
Agree 3842 nice entry
  • #404,404
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:19am Mar 10, 2011 11:19am
Quoting gatorinla
why not? it still did not touch 3790.2 .. still very valid. not a recommendation
Chickened out with 4.5 profit
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  • #404,405
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:21am Mar 10, 2011 11:21am
Quoting FibbinArchie
most people don't make it in this business,,,

Nope. It's so stupid too. This becomes pretty damn easy once you understand the mechanics of things. Trade levels to and fro. Remove greed and fear from the equation. Manage your cash.

Then all you have to do is push buttons and enjoy your new career.

These things are reiterated every single day in and out on these forums. Unfortunately, it takes the experience to finally lock it down.
  • #404,406
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:21am Mar 10, 2011 11:21am
still want 377x TL support to put in a swing trade long, possible target for Tokyo open (20 pips below the low, stopsville)...
  • #404,407
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:23am Mar 10, 2011 11:23am
Quoting BrunargarFx
Hi Cloggie,

How did you came up with your TP at 1.379 since last week? I have been trying different TF but to no avail...
B.
3793 was a target for me (heyheyhey, I am not Cloggie) :-) because on 4h chart it is 0/8 Murrey Math trading line (p=32) and on daily +1/8

Then it is weekly S1 level.

Additionally some important fib confluences around it.

At 3801 is an important Gann SQ9 180° target on 4h and dailys

This morning I thought that we would go more up (Elliott wise), but my count failed and I was a little late to the party (3885 short entry)
  • #404,408
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:23am Mar 10, 2011 11:23am
Quoting Venice
Nope. It's so stupid too. This becomes pretty damn easy once you understand the mechanics of things. Trade levels to and fro. Remove greed and fear from the equation.

Then all you have to do is push buttons and enjoy your new career.
But it does take a lot of time, commitment and research to learn the mechanics tho' Venice, that's the hard part and in today's society everyone wants overnight success. It don't work like that...
  • #404,409
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:26am Mar 10, 2011 11:26am
Quoting Toranaga
Chickened out with 4.5 profit
Why?
  • #404,410
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:27am Mar 10, 2011 11:27am
[quote=D.Tortoise;4461669]
Quoting gatorinla
Agree 3842 nice entry
I am looking @ 3855 to 3862 (DS1, now resistance), but can go much higher since one can count on various TF's an completed impulse down.

May test the downsloping trendline (1.52 - 1,42) from the underside.
  • #404,411
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:28am Mar 10, 2011 11:28am
Quoting cloggie

are 3 things you need to make it in this business; time, time and time.

It takes the pros years to get good at this, what makes a retailer think he can become a millionaire reading a few books and spending a few hours on threads like this is funny to watch.
Well said.
  • #404,412
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:29am Mar 10, 2011 11:29am
[quote=gatorinla;4461664]
Quoting infinitus
same here.. i had a green light usually good for 40 pips.. but usx above 77.15 and 3842 made me consider, we may not go higher. so i shorted
Wise man, Gatorinla. Had not the nerv to short, but yours is now 13 pips or so in the green.

Very nice :-)
  • #404,413
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:30am Mar 10, 2011 11:30am
[quote=gatorinla;4461449]
Quoting kill56
im curious if 3775.8 will marry 3790.2 and act as one or individuals we still did not touch 3790.2 we are a few 1/2 pip from it.
they did not marry. if we get here and im here. i will probably close, with a candle, my short here, and long near here, with a candle.
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  • #404,414
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:34am Mar 10, 2011 11:34am
Quoting gatorinla
why not? it still did not touch 3790.2 .. still very valid. not a recommendation


Gatoinla,

how has one to understand your "touching-points", e.g. 3790.2?

Is it kind of a balance point? If reached, the center of a trade or price swing is lost and it will ultimately go/fall further in that direction?
  • #404,415
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:36am Mar 10, 2011 11:36am
Do we not have room to go further down based on daily ATR? I show 105 daily range for past 30 days... we aren't there yet unless I'm missing data.
  • #404,416
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:38am Mar 10, 2011 11:38am
[quote=gatorinla;4461715]
Quoting gatorinla
they did not marry. if we get here and im here. i will probably close, with a candle, my short here, and long near here, with a candle.

they must be both male
  • #404,417
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:41am Mar 10, 2011 11:41am
gator i like the rxa div
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  • #404,418
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:42am Mar 10, 2011 11:42am
Quoting infinitus
Gatoinla,

how has one to understand your "touching-points", e.g. 3790.2?

Is it kind of a balance point? If reached, the center of a trade or price swing is lost and it will ultimately go/fall further in that direction?
just a precise target. we can slip past it.. i don't know how to measure momentum (working on it). so slip, i don't know. but we usually bounce soon after target. many times one level before or 1 pip before. target is just where pa indicates where it wants to go. a mid in a real bounce in almost always hit. respect at levels indicates your on the right path.. bears and bulls have different paths. they leave different foot prints. it has to touch to the pip to complete the wave.. no hand grenades here
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #404,419
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:44am Mar 10, 2011 11:44am
Quoting fldash
Sorry, I'm not there yet, you'd laugh if you knew what lot size I trade in... I'm just here to learn and speculate. It is a real account though (Oanda). I normally only trade 250 in size... thats like .00025 lots or something... I'm trying to learn, study, do research, etc... it's a lot of work, plus I have a wife, kid, full time job, etc...

edit, that's 2.5c a pip for those keeping track at home... i know, you consider me a joke, but i'm not about to risk my account when im still trying to learn my strategy...

A joke... nah... smart. I have made the dumb move of jumping in thinking I can learn on the fly... again... to the day many $k's of dumb ass positions.

Plan on turning it around though. There are some experienced people on here that seem willing to share.

GL - this is a worthy skill to learn.
  • #404,420
  • Mar 10, 2011 11:45am Mar 10, 2011 11:45am
Quoting infinitus
Gatoinla,

how has one to understand your "touching-points", e.g. 3790.2?

Is it kind of a balance point? If reached, the center of a trade or price swing is lost and it will ultimately go/fall further in that direction?
I'm on tenterhooks here...

My understanding is that a mofu is a mid of a 50% fib retrace and a 61.8% or a 38.2%, or 50% +/- 6%. Gator could you confirm this please?

Since I started using them I've been absolutely astounded as to how accurate they can be...
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