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  • #18,181
  • Edited 5:35pm Mar 8, 2011 3:33pm | Edited 5:35pm
Quoting nando_rich
I have curiosity with this announcement of the new tool.
mmmh to

sonic r and tah ...

i will test it tomorow and then I will release it ...

hope you will like it

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enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #18,182
  • Mar 8, 2011 4:38pm Mar 8, 2011 4:38pm
Quoting noobguy
Hello Nando & sonicers,

I just went short on EU

On the H4, looks like it didn't break the 38% but there is still 19 mins left before the next candle
TP grey box(support on H4)
15 min there is a bearish engulfing and it did not clost above 50%

Dragon angled down, Wave formed H-L-LH
Range is close to being done though.
It is valid re-entry to me, in term of chart reading goes.
SL should be checked like a hawk thou.
Another thing, the time is kinda odd. Almost end of the US session?

Let t mkt decides,
Sonic
  • #18,183
  • Mar 8, 2011 7:25pm Mar 8, 2011 7:25pm
Quoting Mr.eur
Hi，Sonic
I like your system very much.But I think it maybe need more indicators to filter the valid signal.I am just a beginning trader,and my mother language is not english,so if i am wrong,you can just point it out .
Best wishes for you.
Welcome, Mr.eur!

As you read thru the thread, hopefully you will come to a good understanding of the Sonic R System. It is elegantly simple, which is what makes it effective. What makes it simple is the LACK of indicators! Once a trader comes to improved understanding of PA (price action) behaviour at, and between, major supports and resistances, then all that trader needs is the Dragon (to help with entry) and the Trend (to help with head fake avoidance). Nothing else is needed; not CCI, not QQE, not volume, not MACD......nothing! The trader can use such things as FR, FE, pivots and key "levels" for setting targets, but only as confirms historic support, resistance, and consolidation areas.

The more indicators you add, the further the trader gets from the Sonic R System. Not only that, but the longer the trader delays learning to read PA and S&R. Look at it this way. In the Sonic R System, PA is the primary indicator. Support and resistance areas (including consolidation areas) are the alarm points. And the PA WAVE, showing that PA is bouncing around a significant S&R area, signals it is "time to suit up for action".
  • #18,184
  • Mar 8, 2011 7:49pm Mar 8, 2011 7:49pm
UCad:

For over a week this has been in a very tight range. You will note the early stab downwards when likely the PPMs ran stops on longs and also tested how strong the sellers were. Since then the US news has been increasingly better, and the CAD news has offerred nothing new. So it is also likely this ranging is facilitating the accumulation of long positions ahead of an eventual run back higher.

At this point, the lower whole number is support and the upper half number is resistance. And we need to wait on Big Money to make its move, one way or the other. But the longer Big Money delays the move, the more substantial it is likely to be.

I am still in this long trade from last week. And should the price be driven below the whole number again while I am at the computer, I think I might add to this long trade. It won't be a SonicR entry.
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  • #18,185
  • Edited 11:19pm Mar 8, 2011 10:13pm | Edited 11:19pm
EU:

There is the possibility of more downside today. The first leg of the WAVE may already be in place, with price dropping from late yesterday into the asian session today. Currently there is consolidation. But as we approach the Frankfurt and London opens, the price is likely to be driven higher again. That would create the second leg. I would expect such a move up would go at least as high as the central pivot, and possibly higher. Once up, since prices will be better for shorting, it may stay up for a while. Therefore, the third leg downside move might not happen until into the US session.

On the other side, the second leg might become the third leg of a WAVE that started at yesterdays low, and the price movement might go higher, retracing most of yesterdays run down. The new M15 down trend is still fragile. And here is a thought to consider. If Big Money is soon to begin a long term trend down, they might first want even MORE short positions, and they might want to test how strong buyers are, that might represent an obstacle. What better way to accomplish both than by orchestrating a strong drive higher again! This could hit a lot of SLs on shorts people entered into yesterday, producing liquidity for Big Money shorting. Also, depending on if high or low buying is encountered, Big Money will get an idea on how strong the buying opposition is. They will want to thin out the buyers (get them already executed into their trades) before they initate a serious dive.

Recent PA has been movements back and forth across the 1.3900 whole number. Whole number launches can result in good runs. So, no matter which way this goes today, it could be a good trade opportunity.

WARNING: Speculation.
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  • #18,186
  • Mar 8, 2011 10:23pm Mar 8, 2011 10:23pm
the M15 forming triangle between strong support 1.383x and resistant 1.395x, PA may pop either way, the UK open will tell.
H4 up trend is not yet change, unless a lower high is confirmed, or the PA break through 1.383x. I will seek M15 long set up at 1.383x, if there are any.
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  • #18,187
  • Mar 8, 2011 10:43pm Mar 8, 2011 10:43pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
It is valid re-entry to me, in term of chart reading goes.
SL should be checked like a hawk thou.
Another thing, the time is kinda odd. Almost end of the US session?

Let t mkt decides,
Sonic
mental stoploss set a few pips above last swing high

Yea on my future trades i will not put in an order until london...jotting that down for future reference thanks sonic


Quoting enigma4x
beware - look at sonic last post
thank you enigma4x
  • #18,188
  • Mar 9, 2011 12:00am Mar 9, 2011 12:00am
Quoting noobguy
Hello Nando & sonicers,

I just went short on EU

On the H4, looks like it didn't break the 38% but there is still 19 mins left before the next candle
TP grey box(support on H4)
15 min there is a bearish engulfing and it did not clost above 50%

Dragon angled down, Wave formed H-L-LH
Range is close to being done though.
out +14pips
  • #18,189
  • Mar 9, 2011 2:33am Mar 9, 2011 2:33am
Hi:

I took this short like attachement


Regards.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #18,190
  • Mar 9, 2011 3:08am Mar 9, 2011 3:08am
Quoting nando_rich
Hi:

I took this short like attachement


Regards.
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cheers enigma
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #18,191
  • Mar 9, 2011 3:47am Mar 9, 2011 3:47am
Quoting enigma4x
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cheers enigma


first trading idea was stopp out. mybe my entry was too late.

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enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #18,192
  • Mar 9, 2011 4:17am Mar 9, 2011 4:17am
Quoting nando_rich
Hi:

I took this short like attachement


Regards.
Nice wave now for reentry sonic trade.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #18,193
  • Mar 9, 2011 5:09am Mar 9, 2011 5:09am
Quoting enigma4x
first trading idea was stopp out. mybe my entry was too late.

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enigma4x
GU

Try to analyse the waves. Nothing suggests taking short at the time when you posted. Wave count as I see this - classic sonic r long..
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  • #18,194
  • Mar 9, 2011 5:34am Mar 9, 2011 5:34am
Quoting nando_rich
Nice wave now for reentry sonic trade.
hello sonickers,

I have gone through most of the thread but did not find your latest template. You all have very nice clean charts and I would like to set them up like that.
What i am missing is:
-sonicR volume indi
-info on upper left side of chart
-FF calendar headlines in lower left
-DR/DS levels
- I don't know what RgH means...could someone explain?

Anyway been trading the setups and I am in positive, right now I am long EJ & AU.both in the money for now,we will see...

Thanks for all the support for us new sonic followers

Nice pips to all...
  • #18,195
  • Mar 9, 2011 5:48am Mar 9, 2011 5:48am
Quoting nando_rich
Hi:

I took this short like attachement


Regards.
Stopped out...

-50pips.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #18,196
  • Edited 6:36am Mar 9, 2011 5:49am | Edited 6:36am
EU & GU Market Comment:

A possibility here (mentioned in post #18186) is that the PPMs are trying to get all waiting buyers committed.....get them to execute into long trades. The push up in prices is designed to get them off their seats and into their long trades. At the same time, the PPMs are hitting stops on some shorts, which increases liquidity for their own shorting. When it is over, there will be fewer buyers to resist a dive down, and the PPMs will have even more short positions to profit by a dive down.

I remain bearish on these pairs and would only consider short side trading. But since these moves up were launched off of whole number areas, they had a good chance of being substantial. And they look to be so.

Edit: Added two pics. These moves up might be part of a larger scale WAVE. The moves up are with increasing leg #2 volume, which would be expected. However, this volume is not all that great, which is consistent with the hypothesis that these are not real moves up by buyers, but are contrived moves up to suck in buyers. At this point, the moves up look as re-tests of previous support, now possibly turned resistance. Ever wonder why there are such "re-tests"?

Regards,
-tah
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  • #18,197
  • Edited 6:12am Mar 9, 2011 6:05am | Edited 6:12am
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I've ignored last EU setup as distance from H to LH was just 1 candle...
  • #18,198
  • Mar 9, 2011 6:27am Mar 9, 2011 6:27am
Quoting traderathome
EU & GU Market Comment:

A possibility here is that the PPMs are trying to get all waiting buyers committed.....get them to execute into long trades. The push up in prices is designed to get them off their seats and into their long trades. At the same time, the PPMs are hitting stops on some shorts, which increases liquidity for their own shorting. When it is over, there will be fewer buyers to resist a dive down, and the PPMs will have even more short positions to profit by a dive down.

I remain bearish on these pairs and would only consider...
it's exacly my 2nd trading idea today...

I'm short in a early enry with a tigh sl on EU.

we'll see.
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  • #18,199
  • Mar 9, 2011 6:29am Mar 9, 2011 6:29am
Quoting ott256
GU

Try to analyse the waves. Nothing suggests taking short at the time when you posted. Wave count as I see this - classic sonic r long..
I saw this long setup.

Thank u very much for your reply.

enigma4x
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #18,200
  • Mar 9, 2011 7:26am Mar 9, 2011 7:26am
Nice Bounce from the support..

1.395x in sight..

Sonic
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