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  • #17,881
  • Feb 24, 2011 8:33pm Feb 24, 2011 8:33pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
I think euro is in the UP for big time after witnessing big turn around in last Tuesday... Not just another pump and dump as TAH believe..

Yet, I still trade what my chart told me.. It also said LONG..

Sonic
Hi Sonicers,

my first view for big longs EURUSD is above 1.3870. I see this pin from bullchannel d1, but I understand TAH. In my opinion, if we don´t see 1.3870 my bias is short ;-)

I´m shure if we see a real break, there will come an pullback. that is my entry.

by the way my GBPUSD observation ...

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if will cross upside -> long (short term - at the time)
-> oposite with nice pin in to s/r zone Iám still short and put an second shoot into the market.

cheers enigma

p.s. don´t worry eurgbp is always in my eys ;-) and sl on entry
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #17,882
  • Edited 5:31am Feb 25, 2011 12:42am | Edited 5:31am
Quoting Pips 4 All
Tah,
Have you taken a look at EURGBP today?
Maybe that will explain why Euro is keeping close to its highs while GU falling? Or maybe it is Euro buying... real buying...not just pumping to get better shorts from above. Not everything is manipulation. The market sometimes trends and moves in a direction because there is real demand...

Just my 2 cents.
Btw, closed my longs and im looking for more entries LONG (would of attached my charts but im a new member). And if you keep calling for down down down im sure it will come sometime in the future......
Yes, I was watching EURGBP. Of course it was going up! What other option was there for the chart?!

The issue is, why is EU so "strong"? Why did the pound drop on USD news and the euro not drop? Am I to believe that the USD news only adversely affected the pound and not the euro at all? BS! Why, suddenly, is the euro so strong relative to the pound, especially when referring to USD only news on housing starts and employment.....? There is no logic to that at all. In fact, it is TOTALLY illogical. I never look to "news" for "reasons" to explain PA. But I do look to see if the same "excuse" being used by PPMs to move price is applied evenly across obviously affected pairs. In this case, nothing could be further from the truth! The EU pair was held up, while other pairs were not. Hell, even EJ fell! Explain to me, if you can, why EJ fell and EU did not move one iota!!!!!!!!! You CAN'T explain it, other than via the truth, which is EU is being artificially propped up for the time being. Heck, the PPMs are so preoccupied with EU, they didn't even bother to keep the "E" side of EJ up. They forgot about this, and only to cover their tracks did thy move it part way back up much later.

Simply stated, the way the PPMs handled PA today makes no sense except when looking at it from just one perspective. The euro is being propped up, and continues to be supported when all others are traded otherwise. It is manipulation, pure and simple, and the culmination will be a huge and sudden plummet.....when Big Money is finished holding it up and finally lets it drop.

My take on it anyway. If you have a better answer other than "maybe the euro is soooooooo strong that it continues to be on everybodies buying list", I'd like to hear why it is so.

-tah
  • #17,883
  • Feb 25, 2011 12:52am Feb 25, 2011 12:52am
Sonikers,

I pulled the previous post with the upgraded indicator. Forex Factory is still messing with their .xml calendar file. And I awoke to find all the news lines empty of information. I have responded to Twee via the FF home page input, as well as by direct email to him. So far I have no reply.

The original FFCal indicator at
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=19293

is working. Our indicator is using the same guts code, but is not working. FF has changed something our code is sensitive to, but I have no idea what it is. If this is not fixed by Twee/FF I am just going to forget persuing a fix on our indicator and those that want to can use the one above.

I will keep you all posted if Twee comes up with a fix, or an offer to receive our indy and have the FF people fix it.

-tah
  • #17,884
  • Edited 1:21am Feb 25, 2011 1:01am | Edited 1:21am
TAH,

Don't you trade in Sonic R any more?
When the price going up, you keep adding short according to your pump/dump theory. You much be in deep red right now.

It is such as finger bitting experience for me to see going these..
To me it it not healthy to averaging your loser trade,
The more a pop go against you, the amount of ur loss muliply..

The price may eventually, move down as you expected, when it happens we already made Hugh profit from our Longs, while you are in deep red.

I do not want say these but I simply can't ignore anymore...

Sincerely,

Sonic
  • #17,885
  • Edited 1:42am Feb 25, 2011 1:17am | Edited 1:42am
Quoting sonicdeejay
TAH,

Don't you trade in Sonic R any more?
When the price going up, you keep adding short according to your pump/dump theory. You much be in deep red right now.

It is such as finger bitting experience for me to see going these..
To me it it not healthy to averaging your loser trade,
The more a pop go against you, the amount of ur loss muliply..

The price may eventually, move down as you expected, when it happens we already made Hugh profit from our Longs, while you are in deep red.

I do not want say these but I simply can't ignore anymore......
Hi Sonic,

Yes I trade SonicR. And as I posted earlier, I plan on a stretch of pure SonicR trading next month.

Meanwhile, my deviation from SonicR is only in two areas. I have traded asian session (my bad!). I have traded without a SL. As a result, I have had numerous trades go against me, for a time. On these trades I strategically added occassiionally at what looked like the end of sundry swings.

Briefly, my results are 73 trades (since this started in November). Three are still running. Of these three, 1 is profitable and 2 are not. All 70 other trades were closed with profit. My average profit per trade exceeds 60 pips.

You are correct about the stress during the time renegade trades run.....well, rather the patience it requires. A lot of patience is required. Furthermore, initial trades and additions must be small relative to account in order for the strategy to be able to be played out, without causing a problem. Most people want to use more of their money to make money, so they would not like restricting themselves to trade smaller, as this requires.

I look forward to trading pure SonicR....no asian session trading and with using a SL. There should be fewer bad entries, and I won't have to wait on renegade trades. As you point out, this has the potential for better results.

Regards,
-tah
  • #17,886
  • Edited 1:29am Feb 25, 2011 1:26am | Edited 1:29am
Quoting traderathome
Yes, I was watching EURGBP. Of course it was going up! What other option was there for the chart?!

The issue is, why is EU so "strong"? Why did the pound drop on USD news and the euro not drop? Am I to believe that the USD news only adversely affected the pound and not the euro at all? BS! Why, suddenly, is the euro so strong relative to the pound, especially when referring to USD only news on housing starts and employment.....? There is no logic to that at all. In fact, it is TOTALLY illogical. I never look to "news" for "reasons" to explain...
I would attach charts if I could...
To answer your questions- I dont care. I dont care why euro is so "strong", why euro was held up while ej and gu fell... I just care about what the price is doing on the charts and take advantage of it.
This last week, price has been making higher highs and rising. Not all buying is manipulation- it could be just buying. Imo , the way you handled and are handling your trade is wrong even if you do profit from it eventually. What if price continues rising, there is no end to what you call the PPM's greed is there not? Will you give up? You are a very impressive trader but we all make mistakes sometimes...

Forgive me its just my opinion.]

Btw I just saw you trade stats- awesome and keep it up!
  • #17,887
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:05am Feb 25, 2011 2:05am
EJ:

SonicR short setup.
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  • #17,888
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:08am Feb 25, 2011 2:08am
GU:

SonicR short setup.
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  • #17,889
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:12am Feb 25, 2011 2:12am
EU:

Potentially, a SonicR short setup.
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  • #17,890
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:26am Feb 25, 2011 2:26am
Quoting traderathome
EJ:

SonicR short setup.
why not eurjpy long?
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  • #17,891
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:34am Feb 25, 2011 2:34am
Quoting Doncex
why not eurjpy long?
You do not put the Dragon and Trend on your chart. You are not displaying SonicR.

Just based on PA, which you do display, the entire immediately preceding area of PA is fraught with lower highs and lower lows.

But, if you care to use the Dragon and Trend, you will note that both are at the point of rolling over. It is time to let PA decide. But the odds are for a short, based on all the above.
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  • #17,892
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:39am Feb 25, 2011 2:39am
UJ:

Potentially, a SonicR long setup. Note the PV.
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  • #17,893
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:41am Feb 25, 2011 2:41am
Quoting traderathome
Hi Sonic,

Yes I trade SonicR. And as I posted earlier, I plan on a stretch of pure SonicR trading next month.

Meanwhile, my deviation from SonicR is only in two areas. I have traded asian session (my bad!). I have traded without a SL. As a result, I have had numerous trades go against me, for a time. On these trades I strategically added occassiionally at what looked like the end of sundry swings.

Briefly, my results are 73 trades (since this started in November). Three are still running. Of these three, 1 is profitable and 2 are not. All...

Hi TAH

You have result of 70/73 winning rate and get +1300 pips per month, this result is very trader dream of. However, the huge drawback limit the ability turning those pips to money. Since you maybe only risk 0.5% of your equity per trade, therefore, if come to the month’s percentage return of your capital, that won't look that fantastic.
On the other hand, if you have 75% winning rate (which seems achievable for your ability with Soinc R) , reward/risk ratio at about 2.1, risk 3% to 4% equity every trade, limit the drawdown to max 13%. The result of %/capital return will be much batter.

I have done this simulation couple years ago, but the result is in my old desktop so I can’t post here now. you will easily work it out with your computer skill.

When seeing the whole picture, the stop loss is also part of the strategy

regards
seeing through
  • #17,894
  • Feb 25, 2011 2:43am Feb 25, 2011 2:43am
EU:

Here we go, folks!
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  • #17,895
  • Edited 3:22am Feb 25, 2011 2:57am | Edited 3:22am
Quoting pipphunter
Hi TAH

You have result of 70/73 winning rate and get +1300 pips per month, this result is very trader dream of. However, the huge drawback limit the ability turning those pips to money. Since you maybe only risk 0.5% of your equity per trade, therefore, if come to the month’s percentage return of your capital, that won't look that fantastic.
[size=3][font=Calibri]On the other hand, if you have 75% winning rate (which seems achievable for your ability with Soinc...
Your point is well taken, as I mentioned in previous posts. When one seeks to increase the rate of return on capital, it is essential that more of the capital is working, or less is working but at a higher rate. My experiment has been with the later.....less working, but at a higher rate (hopefully) resulting from much fewer losing trades. The next experiment will be with the former......larger trade entries, with SL. More money will be involved in initial trade entries, but some of it will be lost due to the use of the SL. Currently, I only involve more money when I have to "protect" an errant trade until it comes back into the fold.

I am not sure which way will win the contest. But I will say this...... With most traders losing their money and eventually going by the wayside, I am not sure that maximizing RATE OF RETURN on capital is the prime objective. Not losing money is! And in that regard, my current experiment is definately a winner. Increasing rate of return > greed > more risk > lose! My current experiment is a slower way, but to MAKE money. At least that is what the results are so far.
  • #17,896
  • Edited 3:35am Feb 25, 2011 3:25am | Edited 3:35am
Btw, I guess EU price is below sonic dragon now..
I m on a boat!! Can't upload pix..
Can anyone Upload the pic?
Care for a legitimite sonic R short? Since it counter trend, get ready to hit n run..

Sonic
  • #17,897
  • Feb 25, 2011 3:44am Feb 25, 2011 3:44am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Btw, I guess EU price is below sonic dragon now..
I m on a boat!! Can't upload pix..
Can anyone Upload the pic?
Care for a legitimite sonic R short? Since it counter trend, get ready to hit n run..

Sonic
Your pic, Sonic.
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  • #17,898
  • Feb 25, 2011 3:46am Feb 25, 2011 3:46am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Btw, I guess EU price is below sonic dragon now..
I m on a boat!! Can't upload pix..
Can anyone Upload the pic?
Care for a legitimite sonic R short? Since it counter trend, get ready to hit n run..

Sonic
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nice weekend to all sonicer

and extra props goes to sonic and TAH

cheers enigma
enjoy my life ... and ride the waves - all what I do
  • #17,899
  • Feb 25, 2011 4:45am Feb 25, 2011 4:45am
EU:

Just broke LOD. The PPMs are not even waiting for the USD High Impact release at 8:30am EST as the excuse to sell off! The rats are scurrying to jump ship now!
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  • #17,900
  • Feb 25, 2011 4:48am Feb 25, 2011 4:48am
Very good setup for me ... Let's see what will happen next ...

Regards,
Basber
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