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  • #390,641
  • Feb 18, 2011 10:58am Feb 18, 2011 10:58am
Quoting prezd
no, i don't have that on any feed.
Must be an broker feed error.

that spike is a leading indicator .......... Brokers often do this before a trend change


true
  • #390,642
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:05am Feb 18, 2011 11:05am
Quoting fontu
wow! that was a great line then , traders not mature by wind only then .resistance may be some up ok as per mm , not in exact line perhaps .anyway for small movemnt to hold enough now .
thanks ,
fontu
Hi Fontu,

I tried Murrey Math with different p-values on weekle (16, 32, 64)

All delivered the same result regarding the 4/8 pivot line

Weekly should now close not more than 2 baby MMTL above the 3672 line.

So the line in the sand for the weekly bearish case is a close below 3733.


Catch you later,

Markus
  • #390,643
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:07am Feb 18, 2011 11:07am
Curious about something. All in all, this move, while relentless, seemed pretty orderly.

Did most MM's continue to give fair markets, at least for the first 15 min or so, up to around 3580 +/-?
  • #390,644
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:07am Feb 18, 2011 11:07am
Quoting redsword11
that spike is a leading indicator .......... Brokers often do this before a trend change


true


infact, you might even see that spike mysteriously disappear next week ........ will post it to show you


and show you the trend change too
  • #390,645
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:08am Feb 18, 2011 11:08am
Quoting ForexTreeGuy
I cant help but think that even on a Friday there is a ton of buyers watching just below 1.3610 to 1.3600 area to take us back up to close out at 1.3677 area. this is just pure entertainment for me to watch I'm closed out for this week i like Mr Hatch's way of thinking for staying out.

sorry could not resist a Muppet moment
  • #390,646
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:10am Feb 18, 2011 11:10am
sold @ 1.36651 stops @ 1.36888
  • #390,647
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:11am Feb 18, 2011 11:11am
Though 3667-72 important resistance area yet as per wave PA may be like this & price may go up 3700 or up . previous all lines lost in my chart but after this 3750, 3820 were good levels .
so over 3642 will close short & do accordingly.
fontu
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  • #390,648
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:12am Feb 18, 2011 11:12am
Quoting akhtergroup
I would have to partially disagree.

The answers to those questions are in classical economic theory; ....
I fail to see what that has got to do with whether or banks or some other mysterious group has to do with bottom forming here, a top there another bottom another top etc etc.

Maybe you can explain further?

Of course I didn't say (I thought it would be evident but I guess not) that after the last buyer has sold at a top that once the real drop starts then the real heavy selling happens. And again in reverse at a new bottom that after the selling ends and the market turns higher the new heavy buying happens. Eco 101 supply/demand as you allude to.

But sure "they" cause some of what happens but not all and not as much as many believe. Many times, god forbid , it even goes against them.
  • #390,649
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:12am Feb 18, 2011 11:12am
Quoting redsword11
infact, you might even see that spike mysteriously disappear next week ........
That's an interesting observation. Do you mean, e.g., disappear on MT4 platform charts? Disappear in historical timestamped files?

Would you elaborate for me?
  • #390,650
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:18am Feb 18, 2011 11:18am
Quoting OldQuant
Curious about something. All in all, this move, while relentless, seemed pretty orderly.

Did most MM's continue to give fair markets, at least for the first 15 min or so, up to around 3580 +/-?
cant say I saw anything out of the ordinary with my chaps....

best market I have been quoted of all time: once I had to blow a customer out of the a way back month pork belly...quote: limit down bid, at limit up...lol....needless to say, I worked it...lol
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  • #390,651
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:18am Feb 18, 2011 11:18am
Quoting OldQuant
That's an interesting observation. Do you mean, e.g., disappear on MT4 platform charts? Disappear in historical timestamped files?

Would you elaborate for me?


just disappear completely - will post it if it happens
  • #390,652
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:19am Feb 18, 2011 11:19am
Quoting SunTrader
But sure "they" cause some of what happens but not all and not as much as many believe. Many times, god forbid , it even goes against them.
Nah. Don't ever happen. If They get a big one wrong, they lose they membership in They Club.
  • #390,653
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:20am Feb 18, 2011 11:20am
Quoting redsword11
just disappear completely - will post it if it happens
But replaced by what? Can't "disappear" a one-handle price level change completely...??
  • #390,654
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:21am Feb 18, 2011 11:21am
Quoting redsword11
that spike is a leading indicator .......... Brokers often do this before a trend change


true


Why should they do it, Redsword? What is the reasoning.

I have seen that too before, seldom, but I have seen it. One time I made jokes about it when it happened.

Thank you in advance,


Markus
  • #390,655
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:21am Feb 18, 2011 11:21am
Quoting egkid
Hi bro
1.3680 on my chart try to attract the price but when is the question and what TF use is very important:-)
welcome to 1.3680
now we will go back 1.3585
I added sell here 1.3681
  • #390,656
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:24am Feb 18, 2011 11:24am
Quoting PayTheLimit
cant say I saw anything out of the ordinary with my chaps....

best market I have been quoted of all time: once I had to blow a customer out of the a way back month pork belly...quote: limit down bid, at limit up...lol....needless to say, I worked it...lol
Did you notice that good ol' legendary pork bellies is almost a comatose contract nowadays? Somebody told me it has to do with the contract specs vs what the industry uses now.
  • #390,657
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:24am Feb 18, 2011 11:24am
Quoting OldQuant
Nah. Don't ever happen. If They get a big one wrong, they lose they membership in They Club.
it happens, people trying to manipulate comodities like silver a few months ago i think it was september

jp morgan got burned with BILLIONS, shorting silver at 14 and trying to manipulate the price down.

silvers demand was to great
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  • #390,658
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:25am Feb 18, 2011 11:25am
Quoting ForexTreeGuy
sorry could not resist a Muppet moment
it's ok. we're all entitled to having muppet moments. at least you were not a sarcastic muppet like some here who think they know all and automatically discard views/methods they do not understand.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #390,659
  • Feb 18, 2011 11:26am Feb 18, 2011 11:26am
Who going to sell from 1.3680?anyone?
For me i did
  • #390,660
  • Edited 11:29am Feb 18, 2011 11:27am | Edited 11:29am
Quoting the redlion
it happens, people trying to manipulate comodities like silver a few months ago i think it was september

jp morgan got burned with BILLIONS, shorting silver at 14 and trying to manipulate the price down.

silvers demand was to great
I know. It was a lame joke, a bad pun sequence on "they" vs "their." But also a little snark about the infamous "They", like the Illuminati, the Council on FR, the GS "vampire squid", all the all-knowing sinister forces that prey on us little folk.
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