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  • #383,801
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:42am Feb 10, 2011 7:42am
cloggie you are right vsa sucks....

if to many know how to make money easily in this market then the pros will change the game

vsa is complete rubbish

futures is real volume ...if you need to know calc there is none and here is your definition of why
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/volume.asp
Blogging daily now at www.volume.zone
  • #383,802
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:43am Feb 10, 2011 7:43am
  •  apt
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: All your cookies are belong to me. | 1,114 Posts
Quoting Larseg
That was my TP level ...
Nice post Lars.
  • #383,803
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:43am Feb 10, 2011 7:43am
it i just a simple fact that big orders in terms of volume (LOTS, yards, quadrillions) produce more price ticks since you cannot fill big orders at a single price thus lifting the bid. this is how markets work.
we are interested why there is activity and the result from the activity.

i do not care about any calculated stuff who takes past values into consideration. i trade PA and tick volume, except for futures and stocks where it is true volume reported from the exchanges.

i do not know what this discussion is about.
yes, it is NOT volume in terms of contracts. this means it does not work?

Quoting cloggie
That is not volume though, that is just PA, price changes. It shows no indication of what volume is behind it.

Come on DR G, this is not personal, show us how it is calculated. I pretty much guarantee you it uses estimated ranges and ticks added to OHLC, that is just PA and has nothing to do with volume.
  • #383,804
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:46am Feb 10, 2011 7:46am
Volume

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2...9gcsm6puse.jpg
  • #383,805
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:46am Feb 10, 2011 7:46am
  •  apt
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: All your cookies are belong to me. | 1,114 Posts
Quoting ukdaytrader
The problem I have is that noobs are suckered in by such strength of conviction. It's not a service he's doing here; it's mischief making.
It's a social forum, even though it is meant for trading, most people including myself just like to jabber about.

Sub-conscious need for attention, going around disrespecting people, insulting and accusing them of knowing nothing.

I can relate to cloggie, because in certain aspects of life I'm the same way. However, when it comes to a subject so unpredictable; I think it is pretty irresponsible to act as if you can predict, and insult those who have a contrary opinion.

But to each his own.
  • #383,806
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:48am Feb 10, 2011 7:48am
  •  apt
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: All your cookies are belong to me. | 1,114 Posts
Quoting PunjabiSher
Volume

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2...9gcsm6puse.jpg
http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...2151873616.jpg
  • #383,807
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:49am Feb 10, 2011 7:49am
The current 1 hour candle talks of trend exhaustion, so end should be near. +/- 100 pips to trend reversal from here.
  • #383,808
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:51am Feb 10, 2011 7:51am
383k means that there are 383 000 people without job in america right now?

If thats the meaning of this number then my country is going to hell, we have 350 000 unemploymed people and whole country have less citizens than New York. 2 or even more less than New York.
?T-PX // LQ-HNT "01101110 01100101 01111010 01101001 01101101"
  • #383,809
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:51am Feb 10, 2011 7:51am
nice one

Quoting apt
http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...2151873616.jpg
  • #383,810
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:51am Feb 10, 2011 7:51am
Funnily enough, VSA telling me some buyers are stepping in here.

I'm no VSA expert though, so let's see.....
  • #383,811
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:52am Feb 10, 2011 7:52am
Cloggie, with all due respect (and I do respect you as a trader), but with regards to VSA you have demonstrated with your questions that you do not understand the concepts involved. Given this I think that in making statements like "VSA is rubbish" you are just being bloody minded and argumentative for the sake of being argumentative...
  • #383,812
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:52am Feb 10, 2011 7:52am
  •  apt
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: All your cookies are belong to me. | 1,114 Posts
Quoting PunjabiSher
The current 1 hour candle talks of trend exhaustion, so end should be near. +/- 100 pips to trend reversal from here.
We just broke two Daily Trend Lines, one dating back from January 10 th.

After all that hard work, I don't think we will get much farther than 1.360 - 1.362 the ascending Daily TL area.
  • #383,813
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:52am Feb 10, 2011 7:52am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
it is. friday was a clear shakeout as it should look like, including according volume. the rest fo the week added to it. anybody trying to be smartass and short into upmoves now...good luck.
150 pips
  • #383,814
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:53am Feb 10, 2011 7:53am
time out its camel time easy guys
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  • #383,815
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:53am Feb 10, 2011 7:53am
watch out, this impostor has a very big and loud mouth. i tried to warn people, and then i was accused of being a scammer. don't be surprised to join the club.

Quoting Beljevina
You mean give the exact calculations, as in the exact calculations you developed in your personal system, which you outright refused to give?

I understand where you are coming from, but you are being grossly manipulative and demeaning towards others and anything you do not seem to endorse. Dissect this one? Calculations? Filters? Come on, get real, and, drop the accusatory drama.

There is no science or assurances in fx, and we all know that. If something works 80%+ of the time, wow, what an advantage. Couple it with other provens in...
  • #383,816
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:54am Feb 10, 2011 7:54am
  •  apt
  • | Joined Oct 2010 | Status: All your cookies are belong to me. | 1,114 Posts
Quoting kill56
time out its camel time easy guys
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/image...8425722-53.jpg
  • #383,817
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:55am Feb 10, 2011 7:55am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
it i just a simple fact that big orders in terms of volume (LOTS, yards, quadrillions) produce more price ticks

No it doesn't, that is irrelevant. Big orders go through several ECN's/banks and cannot be shown by looking at tick data. Tick price changes just means that there are several orders available at different bids/asks, it does not show at all the size of the orders, quite the contrary, they could be 1 mill retail orders or a couple of yards from GS. Just looking at the change of price (most VSA's use HL and OC's add a fudge factor when they are identical ( no bodies, no whicks), then the really good Indy's use a DU filter. They will never show the "real" volume of the book behind the tick changes. It is just a representation of price changes based on bars, not based on orders.

That is the point I am trying to get across here, but the VSA-fans arguement is always that they "know" it works, so they are not going to discuss it. That is just an immature approach to a discussion.

Have a dig through the code of your "VSA" indy and you will quickly see that it calclulates the OHLC and adds a "fudge" and has nothing to do with volume.

Don't just accept something because the loudmouths here say it is true.
  • #383,818
  • Feb 10, 2011 7:59am Feb 10, 2011 7:59am
what about the dam eur , what ever u system is if u are happy with it and makes u money stick with it let go guys make money and shutt the fook up
  • #383,819
  • Feb 10, 2011 8:00am Feb 10, 2011 8:00am
Quoting kill56
what about the dam eur , what ever u system is if u are happy with it and makes u money stick with it let go guys make money and shutt the fook up
I'm with kill
I operate with clear definite rules, if I break them I lose BIG!
  • #383,820
  • Feb 10, 2011 8:01am Feb 10, 2011 8:01am
Risk on, dollar up?

EDIT: I meant up on the graph, so LONG.
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