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  • #382,301
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:11am Feb 8, 2011 11:11am
Quoting mercy seat
Did Soros tell something like that?

Cannot imagine that ... a profane creature like Rogers ok ... but not George Soros the man from Budapest ...

Yes big time, his fund helped unhedge the producers' hedges in the last 2 quarters, they are all unhedged now for the first time in decades and he has significantly increased his holdings in several gold producers. Google for his shareholding announcements and you can clearly see the play he is playing.
  • #382,302
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:12am Feb 8, 2011 11:12am
Ok London closed...
Let's see this baby drop like hell!!!!!!!
I meant.. all ECB said it they will raise interest rates...
Think about it ... if they do, will it force Ireland, Greece, Portugal and Spain to borrow @ higher interest rate??? would that put them in trouble
@ even a faster pace???
  • #382,303
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:12am Feb 8, 2011 11:12am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
go on and you will need some food stamps. you can hope for a retracement to get out with less pain, but as soon as 3700 is broken, i do not think we get lower than 3680 which is the absolute key level.
Dr, G, Can you explain why 1.3680 is absolute key level?

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  • #382,304
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:13am Feb 8, 2011 11:13am
Quoting mercy seat
Did Soros tell something like that?

Cannot imagine that ... a profane creature like Rogers ok ... but not George Soros the man from Budapest ...
I was being metaphorical about Gold.
All the big cheeses like to big up their holdings when given the opportunity by Bloomies et al. It's what they do.

You think Sarkozy didn't have an agenga when he bigged up the EZ togetherness? Euro bounced strongly after he said all that guff.

The trick is to jump on the coat tails of the big players and jump off before you start to weigh them down.
  • #382,305
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:13am Feb 8, 2011 11:13am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
or buffet. he heavily bought gs in a time when nobody wanted to touch it and announced it...but the herd was too scared.

And he made a killing on that play. Buffett rejecting Lehman is what brought them down, they went cap in hand for a few Bn, and he flatly refused them.
  • #382,306
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:14am Feb 8, 2011 11:14am
Quoting ukdaytrader
All the big cheeses like to big up their holdings when given the opportunity by Bloomies et al.

Of course get the retailers to join the euphoria and take them out on the rebound. Free money.
  • #382,307
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:15am Feb 8, 2011 11:15am
Quoting cloggie
Yes big time, his fund helped unhedge the producers' hedges in the last 2 quarters, they are all unhedged now for the first time in decades and he has significantly increased his holdings in several gold producers. Google for his shareholding announcements and you can clearly see the play he is playing.
Ok .. will do so ...
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  • #382,308
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:15am Feb 8, 2011 11:15am
Quoting ukdaytrader
Greece is bankrupt. Ireland is bankrupt. ie, they cannot fund their liabilities without bailouts. Portugal is by all accounts a fag paper away....

As for the ACBs buying Euro, it's called diversification. Think of most major currencies on a level playing dump.

You're right though, trading with the market is king.
From all the countries you mentioned, only Greece was having serious problems. As for the others, downgrades made by the rating agencies (or shall I say manipulation machines) had a very big impact when they tried to finance themselves. And why? Because they wanted to value the dollar. It was pure manipulation.
  • #382,309
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:16am Feb 8, 2011 11:16am
Quoting redsword11
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  • #382,310
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:20am Feb 8, 2011 11:20am
Possibly usdx breaks up , wave ended apparently , if not again go extension like eu , carefull eu bull.
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  • #382,311
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:20am Feb 8, 2011 11:20am
Quoting Mr Bull
From all the countries you mentioned, only Greece was having serious problems. As for the others, downgrades made by the rating agencies (or shall I say manipulation machines) had a very big impact when they tried to finance themselves. And why? Because they wanted to value the dollar. It was pure manipulation.
When a country cannot pay it's bills beyond the next 3 months, then it is bankrupt. You can call it what you like, but when income or credit is not forthcoming and the mortgage has to be paid, you have no choice in the matter.
  • #382,312
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:21am Feb 8, 2011 11:21am
Quoting primzvicious
did u scalping Gu too?


holding a long from earlier @ BE


HAD 2 ADD ONS - ALL OUT GOOD
  • #382,313
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:21am Feb 8, 2011 11:21am
Quoting Dr.Geppynius
stop shorting into moves, same for buying.

i think cloggie was talking about 1,47, not 1,37. see you there in a few weeks pre-may
may be a bad idea like you stated,
well i wasn't drawing from his number.There is clearly no visible resistance in that long bearish candle but i visibly can see something and maybe my vision might be worth less than shit i know what i stand to lose.

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  • #382,314
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:21am Feb 8, 2011 11:21am
I've been on this thread a while now. I am still amazed at how so many people make hundreds of pips day after day, like its nothing. Its like 9/10 people on this thread are pulling in 5,6,700 pips a week like its nothing. I must be doing something wrong. Better look as some more charts, or read a book on trendlines or something.
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  • #382,315
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:25am Feb 8, 2011 11:25am
...and some serious lack of charts, given that many profess to be technical in trading nature.

If I could consistently pull 700 pips a week, well, I would not be spending my time here, but would probably be employed by a bank.

Quoting PayTheLimit
I've been on this thread a while now. I am still amazed at how so many people make hundreds of pips day after day, like its nothing. Its like 9/10 people on this thread are pulling in 5,6,700 pips a week like its nothing. I must be doing something wrong. Better look as some more charts, or read a book on trendlines or something.
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  • #382,316
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:27am Feb 8, 2011 11:27am
Quoting cloggie
And he made a killing on that play. Buffett rejecting Lehman is what brought them down, they went cap in hand for a few Bn, and he flatly refused them.
I think there's more variables than that. Fuld was fuking idiot. Paulson had no love loss for them. Geithner didn't allow them to change their structure at the last minute and GS would benefit massively.
  • #382,317
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:27am Feb 8, 2011 11:27am
I'm still waiting for EUR/USD to drop....
Target 1.3640 or lower...
Bull stop now.. Let the Bear do it job
  • #382,318
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:28am Feb 8, 2011 11:28am
Wrote several times on Stocky Monk's thread regarding PIMCO.

Link below makes for interesting reading into the public mind of large investors and their appreciation of the debt crisis.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...744297,00.html

Quoting ukdaytrader
When a country cannot pay it's bills beyond the next 3 months, then it is bankrupt. You can call it what you like, but when income or credit is not forthcoming and the mortgage has to be paid, you have no choice in the matter.
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  • #382,319
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:28am Feb 8, 2011 11:28am
Quoting ukdaytrader
When a country cannot pay it's bills beyond the next 3 months, then it is bankrupt. You can call it what you like, but when income or credit is not forthcoming and the mortgage has to be paid, you have no choice in the matter.
Nice. And since we are considering currency pair and not the single one, guess, which one of these two really cannot pay its bills?
  • #382,320
  • Feb 8, 2011 11:29am Feb 8, 2011 11:29am
Quoting ukdaytrader
When a country cannot pay it's bills beyond the next 3 months, then it is bankrupt. You can call it what you like, but when income or credit is not forthcoming and the mortgage has to be paid, you have no choice in the matter.
Well, I wouldn't say bankrupt. I would say they have liquidity problems and that's why those countries are taking and implementing the so called austerity measures. They will overcome all those problems. Banrupt is a very strong word to describe those countries situation.
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