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  • #17,141
  • Jan 28, 2011 4:58pm Jan 28, 2011 4:58pm
Quoting msmarple
- and I am happy to watch nando`s progress.

I wish everyone a healthy and relaxed weekend .


michael
thanks man ... I'm just trying to learn a little more each day.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #17,142
  • Jan 29, 2011 2:38am Jan 29, 2011 2:38am
I am a novice at this forum. Do not quite understand the principle of the system. Could you specify the rules of trade? And what template should I use?
  • #17,143
  • Jan 29, 2011 5:13am Jan 29, 2011 5:13am
I will seek shorts for E/G, target between 0.8400/0.8450.
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  • #17,144
  • Jan 29, 2011 7:31am Jan 29, 2011 7:31am
Quoting Swapf
I am a novice at this forum. Do not quite understand the principle of the system. Could you specify the rules of trade? And what template should I use?

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=16956
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #17,145
  • Edited 2:48pm Jan 29, 2011 1:52pm | Edited 2:48pm
Here is the 2011 Sonic R System Manual....in short form:
1. The WAVE must show L-H-HL and be moving towards a HH for longs, H-L-LH and be moving towards a LL for shorts.
2. To enter, the Dragon must be angled up for longs, down for shorts.
3. And it is best that PA be above the Trend line for longs, below for shorts.
4. For an initial entry wait for the candle to break out of the Dragon, and place your entry order a few pips beyond it. Give consideration if...

A. the entry would be more than 20 pips away from the Dragon.
B. there is a strong S&R area just beyond the entry.

Note: For a re-entry, it might be best to let PA clear the most recent high, or low.

5. Place your SL just beyond the start of leg #1 or leg #3 of the WAVE, depending on your risk tolerance and judgment of PA volatility. Move it to BE+ as soon as possible.
6. Place your TP(s) according to natural S&R levels (historic S&R, whole/half numbers, consolidation areas, etc.).
7. Initiate trades between the open and close of the London market. They do not have to be closed within that same span of time.


Here is information on the templates and indicators:
For your convenience, the SonicR Templates & Indicators that were released 12-01-2010 are included below in the attached zip file. Be advised that for the SonicR Chart Panel vLines, and for the SonicR TzPivots to function properly, you must correctly input your broker/server GMT offset and DST zone information required by these two indicators. You should confirm this information with your broker. Once accomplished, no changes will be required in the future as time shifts between DST and non-DST. You can obtain more information on these indicators by reading the user notes included at the top of the compile for each, and studying the External Inputs. It is strongly recommended that you do so.

Main Chart
SonicR Chart Panel-
Places market data panel in upper left of chart. Three sizes available. Also a multi-function indy that creates custom bid line, background levels (@ whole, half, quarter numbers, etc.), range H/L lines and vertical event lines (market opens, separators). DST code automates twice yearly changes.

SonicR Clock Panel-
Adds an extension panel displaying a clock. Sizes to match Chart Panels. Also useful to check server offset from GMT and proper positioning of vertical lines.

SonicR FFCAL Headlines-
Displays 4 headlines. High, medium, low and no impact color coded. Fully automated prioritization of headlines helps avoid unpleasant surprises.

SonicR Trend Line-
Displays the 89 ema Trend line. Placement on H1 and M30 charts can be made to match the M15 chart.

SonicR Tunnel Dragon-
Displays the 34 ema 3 line Dragon. Placement on H1 and M30 can be made to match the M15 chart.

SonicR TzPivots-
Displays broker server pivots and pivots based on any other time zone. Both Daily and Fibonacci formulas available. DST code automates twice yearly changes.

Chart Sub-window
SonicR MACD-
Displays standard macd study, but now macd and signal lines are on top of histogram for better visibility. Can be set to not display below input TF.

SonicR Volume-
Displays normal volume histogram, but color coded for below average, above average and more than twice average, and with the average line across the histogram. Can be set to not display above input TF.


How To Access An Indicator Compile/Uers Notes:
It is important that you read the user notes at the top of the compile of each indicator, especially the SonicR Chart Panel and SonicR TzPivots indicators, because these two indicators require special inputs involving GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) and DST (Daylight Savings Time) which you will need to get/confirm from your broker as regards the broker's server.

Once the indicators are installed into MT4 you can access the compile. In the main MT4 window there is a yellow diamond icon with "i" in it. Click on it to open the MetaEditor, where you will find a list on the right that includes "indicators", where you will find the indicators you want to "open" in order to see the user notes at the top of indicator code (the compile). Double click on any such indicator in the list and it the code for it will appear in the MetaEditor window. You can scroll down the code to view. You will find user notes, etc. near the top.

And having read this information you will understand the importance of getting the GMT and DST inputs correct for the two indicators that require them in order to display properly. And you will have been advised to contact your broker. Ask your broker what GMT offset is their server based on during the DST time of the year (summer). And find out when do they implement on their server the twice yearly DST changeovers. If it is when the US does, then use number "1" for the "US" DST Zone input. If it is when europe does, then use number "2" for the the "EU" DST Zone input. If it is when Australia does, then use number "3" for the the "AUS" DST Zone input. If it is when New Zealand does, then use number "4" for the the "NZ" DST Zone input. YOU MUST CONFIRM BOTH THE DST GMT OFFSET, AND THE DST ZONE WITH YOUR BROKER....don't guess!


A Request:
Once you have the proper settings for the Chart Panel and TzPivots indys confirmed by your broker, please repost your broker name and the correct settings to use with them, so we can compile a list to better help others in the future. I am just now starting a list, so an input from everybody would help considerably.


Example Of SonicR:
This is an example of a SonicR long setup from yesterday (Friday). The trade was conservatively good for 50+ pips. Note the re-entry opportunity for 30+ pips if the initial entry was missed.
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  • #17,146
  • Jan 29, 2011 9:27pm Jan 29, 2011 9:27pm
Quoting nando_rich
TAH, you are simply amazing!!!



Thanks for all the work in your analysis.

BTW, It seems I've read your mind, I spent all last night, reviewing the Doma4 post about FR in SonicR system. I swear!! And you appear today with all these post to clarify my doubts.
Agree!!!
look what i found about volume, you are amusing!!! found your post about volume here you are ROCKSS!!

PS: behaviour of price looks like telling us why he/she/its stop at certain level..
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...6&d=1296300303
SonY, Gold Is Every Where Gold, but Human Not Gold..
  • #17,147
  • Jan 29, 2011 11:51pm Jan 29, 2011 11:51pm
Quoting traderathome
Here is the 2011 Sonic R System Manual....in short form:
1. The WAVE must show L-H-HL and be moving towards a HH for longs, H-L-LH and be moving towards a LL for shorts.
2. To enter, the Dragon must be angled up for longs, down for shorts.
3. And it is best that PA be above the Trend line for longs, below for shorts.
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thx... TAH,,,
just link this post in Page 1 .. post 1..


Sonic
  • #17,148
  • Jan 30, 2011 6:59am Jan 30, 2011 6:59am
Thanks a lot for the system and for your help. But I still have a questions.
I need more practice. And I need your comments.
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  • #17,149
  • Jan 30, 2011 8:47am Jan 30, 2011 8:47am
Hi all senior here.

TAH describes the trading method is quite clear here. Thanks.

One basic question and hope you guys don't mind. The basic trading time frame here is M15. So would you guys confirm the entry based on higher time frame as well or just trade off from M15 only?

BTW, anyone knows the time zone setting with MBT (for both SonicR Chart panel and Pivots)?

Thks in advance
Cheers
City
  • #17,150
  • Edited 1:20pm Jan 30, 2011 10:14am | Edited 1:20pm
Quoting Buildcity
Hi all senior here.

TAH describes the trading method is quite clear here. Thanks.

One basic question and hope you guys don't mind. The basic trading time frame here is M15. So would you guys confirm the entry based on higher time frame as well or just trade off from M15 only?

BTW, anyone knows the time zone setting with MBT (for both SonicR Chart panel and Pivots)?

Thks in advance
Cheers
City
When you think you are seeing a SonicR setup on M15, it is always advisable to view the Daily or H4 chart to see if there is something there to confirm it. What you would be looking for is an individual candle, current or recent, that "suggests" a move is coming in the same direction as you are seeing for the setup. An example is shown for EU in the pictures below.

M15 - Of course we all know the story here. PA finally dropped out of its range for a nice move down. But did the Daily or H4 chart give a clue?

Daily - The highlighted candle "suggested" a move down was coming. Why?
1. For one thing, the body of the candle is small, which happens when traders are consolidating/preparing for a move. But which way?
2. But also, the body is in the upper part of the overall candle rather than in the middle or towards the bottom. If it was in the middle, it would reflect indicision by the traders and additional candles would need to be seen to get a feel for what will happen next. If it was in the lower part, it would reflect price being kept low; an indication buyers are controlling the price. But, it was in the upper part, reflecting the price being held up; an indication sellers are controlling the price.
3. Finally, the candle was the candle that "tests" the S&R area (red line). After a drive of many days upwards it would be expecting quite a lot to believe PA would break out upwards thru this S&R area.

Hope this helps. As far as the GMT and DST settings for MBT, no one using that broker has yet posted the proper settings for their server. You might be the only one using them. Anyway, after you confirm the proper settings for them, please post the settings for the list I am building to help others in the future. My hope is to get all the likely brokers on the list, and then include the list in the user notes of the indicators.

Regards,
traderathome
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  • #17,151
  • Edited 10:55am Jan 30, 2011 10:39am | Edited 10:55am
Quoting Swapf
Thanks a lot for the system and for your help. But I still have a questions.
I need more practice. And I need your comments.
EU:
You can see from the picture I include that there was an entry. Depending on where you decided to set your TP, it was a run good for 50-100 pips.

GU:
You are asking if the EP you have desiginated is a good one. I hope the picture I have included helps.

Please re-read (and reflect on) the instructions. And your GMT setting is incorrect. Likely your DST setting is therefore also incorrect. Look at where your vLines occur relative to PA. Compare your charts to those of other Sonicers and you will see your vLines are not in the same places.
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  • #17,152
  • Jan 30, 2011 10:04pm Jan 30, 2011 10:04pm
Hey TAH,

Thanks for the clarification and will test it out regarding the setting with MBT.

The current MBT's time zone is New York time but later on it will change to GMT. See what can I do

Cheers
City




Quoting traderathome
When you think you are seeing a SonicR setup on M15, it is always advisable to view the Daily or H4 chart to see if there is something there to confirm it. What you would be looking for is an individual candle, current or recent, that "suggests" a move is coming in the same direction as you are seeing for the setup. An example is shown for EU in the pictures below.

M15 - Of course we all know the story here. PA finally dropped out of its range for a nice move down. But did the Daily or H4 chart give a clue?

Daily - The highlighted candle...
  • #17,153
  • Jan 30, 2011 11:43pm Jan 30, 2011 11:43pm
Quoting Buildcity
Hey TAH,

Thanks for the clarification and will test it out regarding the setting with MBT.

The current MBT's time zone is New York time but later on it will change to GMT. See what can I do

Cheers
City
If I understand you correctly, MBT plans to change their server to GMT time zone, and when they do the GMT/DST settings will be 0,2? But meanwhile, their server is set to EST and the settings are -5,1?
  • #17,154
  • Edited Jan 31, 2011 2:37am Jan 30, 2011 11:45pm | Edited Jan 31, 2011 2:37am
Here My UCAD dan GU Trade Today
Reason To trade
1. the wave forming H >> L >> LH
2. its above pivot
3. may be it like lil sign that sonic try to say.. Buy Low Sell high ( like tah say, warning speculation)
edit : GU Long Not Triggered yet, but UCAD has triger and floating into -20 pips.
edit : GU Trigered, UCAD Floating -5 pips.
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SonY, Gold Is Every Where Gold, but Human Not Gold..
  • #17,155
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:19am Jan 31, 2011 12:19am
Quoting noer1962
Here My UCAD dan GU Trade Today
Reason To trade
1. the wave forming H >> L >> LH
2. its above pivot
3. may be it like lil sign that sonic try to say.. Buy Low Sell high ( like tah say, warning speculation)
It looks like your seeing GU as a long trade? Current session PA looks to me like the drive up to collect short positions for a bigger drive down. Just a thought. Be careful.

And you are seeing UCad as a short? It could become the opposite. So, like with GU, be careful.
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  • #17,156
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:29am Jan 31, 2011 12:29am
GU sell stop pending.

We'll see.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #17,157
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:36am Jan 31, 2011 12:36am
Quoting traderathome
It looks like your seeing GU as a long trade? Current session PA looks to me like the drive up to collect short positions for a bigger drive down. Just a thought. Be careful.

And you are seeing UCad as a short? It could become the opposite. So, like with GU, be careful.
thanks TAH, you are right its a CT, but i've put my buy and sell stop and my SL put in place, and from i've learn for you and others is dicipline. if this a loss trade i must admit it that im still so green and need a guidance from you and the others about sonicR.
SonY, Gold Is Every Where Gold, but Human Not Gold..
  • #17,158
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:38am Jan 31, 2011 12:38am
Quoting nando_rich
GU sell stop pending.

We'll see.

Trade active now.
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"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
  • #17,159
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:40am Jan 31, 2011 12:40am
Quoting nando_rich
GU sell stop pending.

We'll see.
"GU sell stop pending." -

. But I think the WAVE is like this.....
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  • #17,160
  • Jan 31, 2011 12:52am Jan 31, 2011 12:52am
Quoting traderathome
"GU sell stop pending." -

. But I think the WAVE is like this.....
You're right, I now see more clearly.

Are you short?

BTW, How did you get the dot line in Fibo_Study indi?


Thanks.
"Being picky only cost your time - not MONEY"...Hans
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