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  • #16,741
  • Jan 13, 2011 11:13pm Jan 13, 2011 11:13pm
eww... my post still not coming sharing picture, not taking the trade because the resistance level, thanks sonicR'ers
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  • #16,742
  • Jan 13, 2011 11:31pm Jan 13, 2011 11:31pm
Quoting noer1962
eww... my post still not coming sharing picture, not taking the trade because the resistance level, thanks sonicR'ers
A short trade WAVE exists (H1 and M15). Dragon is angled down. PA is below Trend. On the other hand, there is a lack of trading on Leg 2, and Best Hours has not arrived. So, PA could pull up again, maybe with better volume on the pull up, and then drop.
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  • #16,743
  • Jan 13, 2011 11:34pm Jan 13, 2011 11:34pm
im wrong!! sonic setup do pass the barrier!!! still much to learn.. it going down till 82.3x to 82.1x.. i guess.. what did i miss.. i know not the time yet, but whats the logic ?
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  • #16,744
  • Jan 13, 2011 11:40pm Jan 13, 2011 11:40pm
Quoting traderathome
A short trade WAVE exists (H1 and M15). Dragon is angled down. PA is below Trend. On the other hand, there is a lack of trading on Leg 2, and Best Hours has not arrived. So, PA could pull up again, maybe with better volume on the pull up, and then drop.
so when sonic setup, has form we confirm it with H1 chart ? and sonic setup only valid when the time is come ? i see.. thanks TAH

-noer-
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  • #16,745
  • Edited Jan 14, 2011 12:12am Jan 13, 2011 11:42pm | Edited Jan 14, 2011 12:12am
Quoting noer1962
im wrong!! sonic setup do pass the barrier!!! still much to learn.. it going down till 82.3x to 82.1x.. i guess.. what did i miss.. i know not the time yet, but whats the logic ?
The logic of Best Hours (London open to London close) is that is when trading is most active. Any moves during the asian session, and early euro session (including the Frankfurt open and possible Frankfurt Headfake) can pale by comparision to sudden moves during these Best Hours. Sure, sometimes (rarely) the asian session starts a move that is continued without interruption/whipsaw in the Best Hours. But most times, PA movement started in Best Hours is the major movement for the day, and can be in complete opposition to what came before!

Trading the asian session is not recommended. But if you do, be prepared to exit with 20-40 pips (or whatever you have) BEFORE the London open. That way you can protect any profits in case the London traders take a different direction. If they don't, you can always get back in, sometimes at a better price, because if the London traders continue the move, they frequently execute a pullback first so they can get some better pricing. Which means you can, too.

Your UJ might be an example to follow. A major WAVE that exits on both H1 and M15 suggests a short trade. And the asian session has promoted downwards movement. It is currently stalled around the half number. Now, if the London traders are to continue this move, it is highly likely there will first be a pull up in the price. It might be worth continuing to watch, because if the move down is to be continued, pull back or not, PA could reach the lower whole number below RgL. I say that because overall PA tends to move between whole numbers, or between half numbers and whole numbers. The WAVE for this one began around a whole number, and so the lower whole number is a likely target.
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  • #16,746
  • Jan 13, 2011 11:48pm Jan 13, 2011 11:48pm
Quoting traderathome
The logic of Best Hours (London open to London close) is that is when trading is most active. Any moves during the asian session, and early euro session (including the Frankfurt open and possible Frankfurt Headfake) can pale by comparision to sudden moves during these Best Hours. Sure, sometimes (rarely) the asian session starts a move that is continued in the Best Hours. But most times, PA movement started in Best Hours is the major movement for the day, and can be in complete opposition to what came before!
we posting at the same time i guest , thank you again TAH, nice to have someone to share with .

time to read last 14k post again then
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  • #16,747
  • Edited 2:24am Jan 14, 2011 2:12am | Edited 2:24am
Of the pairs shown, the best opportunity looks like GJ short. If it happens then I would have no confidence in GU long. And if GU turns out not to be a long, then I would have no confidence in EU long. And if no confidence in EU long, then neither in EJ long.....especially if GJ goes short!

Best Hours just began, and time is needed to see if current PA directions are just pullbacks or continuations. Note EU and EJ are in pump mode. The M1 PA/V study shows higher trading at higher prices, so this might be a final Pump and Dump. Time will tell.

Edit: Added GJ M15 chart. Notice: I am already short this from yesterday.
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  • #16,748
  • Jan 14, 2011 2:24am Jan 14, 2011 2:24am
whoa... what happened to eur/usd?
seems to have a pump and dump
i just want to sell at the double top, but the PA makes me worried
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  • #16,749
  • Jan 14, 2011 2:29am Jan 14, 2011 2:29am
Quoting 13thheaven
whoa... what happened to eur/usd?
seems to have a pump and dump
i just want to sell at the double top, but the PA makes me worried
I caste my vote for a Pump and Dump by the London PPMs, because the higher the price goes, the greater the trading volume....and these guys DO NOT CHASE TRADES! Therefore, they are closing longs and opening shorts as they drive the price higher. You might get your Double Top, because we have yet to hear from the US PPMs.

WARNING: Speculation!
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  • #16,750
  • Edited 3:25am Jan 14, 2011 3:01am | Edited 3:25am
EG:

The following thought is pure speculation.

About 30 minutes from now there is a high impact GBP release. The drive up in euro pairs (EG, EJ, EU, etc.) might be due to PPMs manipulating the price up in advance of this release, sometime after which they will reverse it by pulling the rug from under the euro side in all the euro pairs.

We are getting close to the end of the week, and this double move play by the PPMs would net them great profits, and leave prices right where they started from.....so, no apple carts get upset by this quick manipulation, other than those poor souls whose short trades got stopped out. And, by the looks of the Daily, the short side is with the overall trend and with the bulk of the trading starting the year off. Daily PA looks like nothing more than the price being reset high in advance of another run down. But those whose shorts got stopped out, will sadly not participate....the PPMs have those shorts now! The charts below are for EG, but those for EJ and EU are similar.

And, as long as this is understood to be pure speculation, how about a nice gap down in euro pairs starting next week! It would cement profits from todays manipulations, and put further pressure on longs, as the price continues to drop, to close their trades (sells), which is the liquidity the PPMs will need to close their newly "acquired" shorts (buys).

WARNING: Speculation!
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  • #16,751
  • Jan 14, 2011 3:33am Jan 14, 2011 3:33am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

The first pic, the M15 chart, is a trade from yesterday, gone bad. Early entries are not part of SonicR, but there were acceptable reasons to make an early entry. The WAVE exhibited lower highs and lower lows. The Dragon repeatedly started to angle down from flat, after days of upwards movement. Even the PA/V study supported a bearish bias. But in spite of these signs, the PPMs drove it hard up once again.

Since I trade without a SL, and was actually asleep when this happened, I was not at all pleased when I later observed what had transpired....

Hi TAH,

Looking at trends from H1 and H4, I found it more useful.
Now, prefer checking waves at H1, while still looking to enter at M15.

H1 seem to give clearer trends especially when really trending, whereas M15 gives faster indication of potential reversals as per the way you have used the M15 in your charts.

Cheers,
FB.
  • #16,752
  • Jan 14, 2011 3:47am Jan 14, 2011 3:47am
thx TAH...
now i'm out of the market
+60 pips...
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  • #16,753
  • Jan 14, 2011 3:48am Jan 14, 2011 3:48am
According to wave and volume study it seems like there is a pretty good short setup on GU...just waiting
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  • #16,754
  • Jan 14, 2011 3:53am Jan 14, 2011 3:53am
I am more confused than ever. There was GBP not JPY news yet GBPJPY and other yen pairs jumped up. Oh dear.
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  • #16,755
  • Jan 14, 2011 3:59am Jan 14, 2011 3:59am
Quoting traderathome
The logic of Best Hours (London open to London close) is that is when trading is most active. Any moves during the asian session, and early euro session (including the Frankfurt open and possible Frankfurt Headfake) can pale by comparision to sudden moves during these Best Hours. Sure, sometimes (rarely) the asian session starts a move that is continued without interruption/whipsaw in the Best Hours. But most times, PA movement started in Best Hours is the major movement for the day, and can be in complete opposition to what came before!

Trading...
Here is the pull back. My expectation, anyway. Let's see if later it goes lower.
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  • #16,756
  • Jan 14, 2011 4:06am Jan 14, 2011 4:06am
EU:

In less than 2 hours the price was driven down over 100 pips. Price is making a minor pull back upwards right now, but it appears the Pump and Dump is now in full swing!
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  • #16,757
  • Edited 4:26am Jan 14, 2011 4:13am | Edited 4:26am
Quoting traderathome
EG:

The following thought is pure speculation.

About 30 minutes from now there is a high impact GBP release. The drive up in euro pairs (EG, EJ, EU, etc.) might be due to PPMs manipulating the price up in advance of this release, sometime after which they will reverse it by pulling the rug from under the euro side in all the euro pairs.

We are getting close to the end of the week, and this double move play by the PPMs would net them great profits, and leave prices right where they started from.....so, no apple carts get upset by this quick...
Well, price is right back where it started from. The PPMs pumped it while closing longs and opening shorts and then reversed it to start cementing profits on their shorts.....a nice "double profit" move by the PPMs this last day of the week.

It will be interesting to see what the US PPMs do with EG, EJ and EU! If they Pump and Dump them also, we might end up with a "lower high, lower low, lower high" WAVES and SonicR short setups all around, albeit maybe late in the day, but a good ones nonetheless....expecially if the euro takes a psycological hit over the weekend and we get gap downs on the pairs (pure speculation). But, if the US PPMs also Pump and Dump today, that would be a pretty strong indication the PPMs plan to further pull the rug on the euro side of the pairs.

WARNING: Speculation!
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  • #16,758
  • Jan 14, 2011 4:45am Jan 14, 2011 4:45am
Want to share a pretty setup in AU ( I missed it unfortunately)

Nice H/L/LH/LL setup backed by dragon pointing down
+ notice the increasing volume at the final pump before letting the AU fall to the ground
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  • #16,759
  • Jan 14, 2011 4:55am Jan 14, 2011 4:55am
Quoting bennyFX
Want to share a pretty setup in AU ( I missed it unfortunately)

Nice H/L/LH/LL setup backed by dragon pointing down
+ notice the increasing volume at the final pump before letting the AU fall to the ground
And it was, essentially a whole number to whole number move. The Double Top "M" above the upper whole number was a strong clue, because for runs down the PPMs like to get some shorts on board above a whole number, or above a half number as might be the case sometimes.

Now, maybe next time you can get the good news to us BEFORE IT HAPPENS........?
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  • #16,760
  • Jan 14, 2011 4:59am Jan 14, 2011 4:59am
Sure. As I wrote: Unfortunately I discovered this one too late
The dragon has been already unleashed...

Quoting traderathome
And it was, essentially a whole number to whole number move. The Double Top "M" above the upper whole number was a strong clue, because for runs down the PPMs like to get some shorts on board above a whole number, or above a half number as might be the case sometimes.

Now, maybe next time you can get the good news to us BEFORE IT HAPPENS........?
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