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  • #363,981
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:22am Jan 13, 2011 7:22am
Hi Cloggie, is there any way I can pm you or share a word in private? This is a genuine cry for help. I'm not looking to get your system, but I just want to talk to an old hand in this business.

Please.

This seems to be the absolute nadir in my life, and I could do with some bit of help.
  • #363,982
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:22am Jan 13, 2011 7:22am
Quoting rattyo
If everyone would be so kind to vouch for me that would be great so I have more vouches than my pal Gloggie the Dutchman.
lol.
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  • #363,983
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:23am Jan 13, 2011 7:23am
Quoting cloggie
I took all my vouches back, and the funny thing was that about 10 or so members that vouched for me summarily removed them, shows you that the vouch system is just an exercise in @rse kissing and means feck all, other then a few traders being nice to each other, it is no reflection of ability or profitability.

That was actually a funny exercise to see who would respond.
  • #363,984
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:24am Jan 13, 2011 7:24am
Good morning Big C,

i was studying this chart. it's the first time i see it since i am here not all the time.

when trying to understand why u mark those levels there are some that are clear for me, while others... i haven't got the faintest idea!

any chance u could give us some details as to how u come up with some of those? for instance, i really don't see why 1.3644 is marked on the chart?

if you are willing i would like to make a couple of questions more.

thanks in advance

hapipipin
Quoting cloggie
I have been posting my reasons since Sunday. Technically we were due for a retrace and just waiting for the fundamentals to give us the trigger, it started with the NFP, then Sunday's announcement of China and Japan to support the EU, the succesful desensitising of the QE this week by the ECB made up for the mistake in December, couple all that with spreads coming of the highs and the market had a trigger it could use to give us a retrace.

Go back over my post since Sunday, I closed my long term shorts on Friday in anticipation of this retrace...
dreams do come true.
  • #363,985
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:25am Jan 13, 2011 7:25am
lol - i won't, because of this

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don't write cr@p about me. Last week I made over 4000£. Every week I make at least 2000£-5000£. So i don't need to be told by YOU that I should not get to comfortable with my shorts thanks.

Those trades are over now. I made a +37 and +59 at 10£ a point. so my days trading is over.

Quoting rattyo
If everyone would be so kind to vouch for me that would be great so I have more vouches than my pal Gloggie the Dutchman.
  • #363,986
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:25am Jan 13, 2011 7:25am
Quoting cloggie
Tau, nothing personal, not to anyone here. It just gets really frustrating when I see so many traders here throwing away their hard earned money, for some the last bit of money they can not really afford to lose. I have been banging my head against a brick wall in this thread all week and it gets really frustrating when I can clearly see what is going on and have posted so several times, but the herd here just gets wrapped up in each other and the loudmouths here just drag others down for their own satisfaction.

IT has gotten to the point that...


Hi Cloggie,

Congratulations on your 300 pip trade this week. Its truely remarkable and a great acheivement in such market conditions.

Yesterday I sat this in this room for most of the day and listened and watched to what was going on. As a learner myself, looking for a safe and disicplined way I can earn 10 to 20 pips on a daily basis, I must say that after a few hours of sitting in I felt really depressed by the end of the day with all the shouting and abuse going on.

Normally, I sit in Redworlds "Price is Everything" thread. For me, this is the best thread on FF. Redsworld thread is very different to this one, as his mantra is "charts not chat". By taking out the language element, the thread is based on his and a handful of other quality traders who post their ideas and plans in a visual way. For me, whilst I done understand fully the process, I understand their intentions and ideas and for me this is the best way of learning.

Language whilst unique to humans, is full of deletions, distortions and generalisations and therefore it is difficult for us to express our ideas and thoughts in a accurate way as they are filtered out through our neurology in ways we yet understand.

So for those, interested in learning a system, dont want to get into bashing each other up and feeling bad and rejected, I would like to recommend you visit Redsworlds thread and sit in and look and listen. As I said its not a thread for chatting about "I think", "It might" "It should" "It will", but is a great place to be with quality players who for reasons I dont understand yet, want to share their ideas with others.

Thanks very much.
  • #363,987
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:26am Jan 13, 2011 7:26am
hmm coming up break of Daily Trendline and fib channel line on the daily.

lets see, 3400 will be in play i guess

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  • #363,988
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:26am Jan 13, 2011 7:26am
retrace ending and sun is shining on eu again.. it took 8 days, 2 days too long for me... targeting 2575
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  • #363,989
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:28am Jan 13, 2011 7:28am
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Congratulations on your 300 pip trade this week. Its truely remarkable and a great acheivement in such market conditions.

yeap.
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  • #363,990
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:28am Jan 13, 2011 7:28am
Quoting cloggie
This whole week has been utter madness here on the thread. The biggest reason retailers fail is their bias. Since Sunday the big money has been buying and the majority of the retailers have stubbornly been fighting it. There are hundreds of posters here that cannot see what the easier trading strategy is and keep fighting it all the way down to MC.

Nobody here can put up a single chart to justify that the shorts are paying of better then longs.

I am giving up fighting the trend on this thread, there is no point.
I'm sure I speak for many here who greatly appreciate your posts and efforts to inform. Hope you will let us know when you see the trend turn.
  • #363,991
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:29am Jan 13, 2011 7:29am
anyone dare to even think about taking short at 618 fib ?
  • #363,992
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:29am Jan 13, 2011 7:29am
Quoting cloggie
Most here know that I dont' give a toss about being liked, quite the contrary. The whole exercise of this thread was supposed to be a traders thread, it has turned into a thread where the few that know what they are doing are attacked en masse and ridiculed, it takes the fun out of being here.
Man you have my respect.
You know about you are talking. Doesn't matter if some of the peoples here like you or not. Important is what you are saying.
  • #363,993
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:30am Jan 13, 2011 7:30am
Quoting Ovidius
I'm sure I speak for many here who greatly appreciate your posts and efforts to inform. Hope you will let us know when you see the trend turn.
LL/LH on daily chart.
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  • #363,994
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:30am Jan 13, 2011 7:30am
Quoting Decimal
Hi Cloggie,

Congratulations on your 300 pip trade this week. Its truely remarkable and a great acheivement in such market conditions.

Yesterday I sat this in this room for most of the day and listened and watched to what was going on. As a learner myself, looking for a safe and disicplined way I can earn 10 to 20 pips on a daily basis, I must say that after a few hours of sitting in I felt really depressed by the end of the day with all the shouting and abuse going on.

Normally, I sit in Redworlds "Price is Everything" thread. For me, this...
Redsword has a brilliant thread and so does Trade Price, as it is not how I trade I would just get in the way over there and have little interest in being there.

This is not a systems thread, this is the trading thread, and there is little trading going on in here as there are way too many muppets that don't know how to trade.

I am a trader, not a teacher/mentor/guru and have no patience nor any intention in becoming either.

IF you want 20-30 pips a day consistently stay away from here, stay with Redsword, go visit Magix's thread, pop into Wormy's thread they are the good ones, stay away from the trading system threads, you will not find a system there that is profitable, you need to find your own.
  • #363,995
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:31am Jan 13, 2011 7:31am
Quoting dejv
anyone dare to even think about taking short at 618 fib ?

Feck, there'll be plenty.
  • #363,996
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:32am Jan 13, 2011 7:32am
Still some to go up, watch eur/gbp and gbp/usd resistances.

It is all that matters.
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #363,997
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:33am Jan 13, 2011 7:33am
Quoting cloggie
Put up a single chart that shows that since Sunday shorts made more money then longs, your view is so biased and blinkered that you cannot see what is in front of you.

Stop fighting the big money and just follow them. You as a tiny retailer cannot win unless you follow the big money. All long setups all week have paid of multiples of any short setup.

My position trades are up over 2,000 pips since Sunday and that does not include the intraday longs I have taken along side them.

I am seriously starting to question why I bother here. You...
Cloggie, could you actually post here your trades when you take them, like many do. It would be very helpful, would reduce the learning curve. How about it, show us the money!
  • #363,998
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:33am Jan 13, 2011 7:33am
Quoting cloggie
I took all my vouches back, and the funny thing was that about 10 or so members that vouched for me summarily removed them, shows you that the vouch system is just an exercise in @rse kissing and means feck all, other then a few traders being nice to each other, it is no reflection of ability or profitability.

That was actually a funny exercise to see who would respond.
Hwuhahhahha

Thus passed...
  • #363,999
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:35am Jan 13, 2011 7:35am


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...=1#post4310680

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  • #364,000
  • Jan 13, 2011 7:36am Jan 13, 2011 7:36am
Quoting cloggie
Japan committing 1 trillion to FX, China buying 20% of EU debt, EU bailout fund going to 1 trillion, these are some serious big numbers all trying to lift the euro, what makes you think you can fight this with a micro lot?
I would like to make a point, Firstly I have to say that I do have a lot of respect for you and have followed your posts for quite some time. I'm more of a silent lurker here and only post when necessary. Reason I want to make a point is what you have said about china assisting EU which caused the present uptrend that was more mainstream news during the Asian session of the 11th of this month. The average trader who does not have access to Reuters feeds and so on would not have known this and there bias would have been short from Monday of this week. I can honestly say that at times I don't quite understand how you are helping, I mean you posted a chart today with explanations for the first time in how long. If you say 2922 is a key area how are on earth is an average or new trader going to know the significance of this. I've seen countless times when you are asked questions about how you trade how you get certain levels, what source do you use for your information I've hardly ever seen an answer this is when appropriate questions are asked.

I feel if you really wanted to help you would have started your own thread, just look at the number of posts you have thats more than most who have their own threads. Like I say i still respect your knowledge But I'm actually doubting that you are helping here, I cannot see by what you say would help a newbie. Yes I dont doubt your wealth of knowledge but most of the time I'm sorry to say you just say things to make you look good. Many here are providing clear information with charts to back up explaining there reasoning I don't like to give examples but look at Tarrantula and Wormboy and many others who even post their entries so others can see and learn from not to use as a signal service, these are guys in my view that are helping.

I'm not looking for an argument as this is a one of post I'm back to trading.
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